Willie Allen
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If this subliminal message means what I think it means, and if it stuck..
Would be a HUUUUGE get.
Would be a HUUUUGE get.
As I posted earlier having a four star center calling the signals that just happens to be an outgoing leader could attract some really good OL talent, we already have another near four star, and if we could get a guy like this it would attract even more talent.
Then when you have a great OL coming in the skill players want to play with them. With this staff recruiting it could happen.
Then when you have a great OL coming in the skill players want to play with them. With this staff recruiting it could happen.
I want the lineman thats Jackson's linemate saige young i believe kid out shined everyone
This post was edited on 2/24 10:29 PM by subsonic66
This post was edited on 2/24 10:29 PM by subsonic66
How many times have we had two or more 4-star OL in a game at the same time?
Going through Rivals back to 2002, the only 4stars we've gotten:
2002 - Yancey Reynolds - I know he was injured, so not certain if he played
2004 - Micah Jones - played sparingly, battled injuries, left during rJr year IIRC
2014 - Nick Richardson - RS
2016 - Drake Jackson, Willie Allen??
The other "big time name" that I recall is Antonio Hall.
That would be awesome to have 3 4stars, along with GAA, LaRubbio, Krok, Stallings, Meadows, Haynes & Young (all top 50 at their pos'ns)
(not saying stars are the "be all", 3-star Larry Warford turned out pretty good)
Going through Rivals back to 2002, the only 4stars we've gotten:
2002 - Yancey Reynolds - I know he was injured, so not certain if he played
2004 - Micah Jones - played sparingly, battled injuries, left during rJr year IIRC
2014 - Nick Richardson - RS
2016 - Drake Jackson, Willie Allen??
The other "big time name" that I recall is Antonio Hall.
That would be awesome to have 3 4stars, along with GAA, LaRubbio, Krok, Stallings, Meadows, Haynes & Young (all top 50 at their pos'ns)
(not saying stars are the "be all", 3-star Larry Warford turned out pretty good)
Antonio Hall was a 5 star recruit, who bellyached the entire time he was at Kentucky. Reynolds, another 5 star, never played in a significant game. Which goes to show that stars have limited value predicting upsides of offensive linemen. Garry Williams, 1 of the better UK offensive linemen in recent history, was a 2 star coming out of Seneca high school. Jervontius Stallings, 1 of the best redshirt freshmen on our team, is a 2 star offensive guard. Stoops has shown his chops as a recruiter, but the offensive line is always the hardest nut to crack. Willie Allen already has at least 15 offers including Alabama, LSU, Notre Dame, and Florida State. As Stoops said during his last presser, Kentucky is fishing in the right waters. But Allen is unlikely to end up at Kentucky, and there would be no guarantee that he would play if he did. Playing time must be earned in practice competition. They key to building an SEC offensive line is to recruit lots of big bodies with good feet, develop them in a nutrition and strength program, and have good competition for playing time. It isn't about recruiting 1 big name. It is about recruiting lots of hard workers with projection in their big bodies.
This post was edited on 2/27 4:06 PM by Blue Decade
We never seem to have much luck recruiting Louisiana. Dicky Lyons is about the only player I can think of off hand that we recruited out of that state, came here and produced in any meaningful way. I think our time is better spent in other states.
And it didn't hurt that Dicky's father had played at UK and he was out of St X high school. Dicky, Sr. is one of my all time favorite Cats.
I agree recruiting Louisiana would be extremely difficult. Cajuns don't stray far from home.
No one has much luck getting top kids out of Louisiana, Bama has gotten a couple the last 3-4 years, USC got one a few years ago. I suspect it will be even tougher with Ogeron, or ever how he spells his name, there now.
We didn't steal Dickie Lyons Jr away from LSU, he was not only a two star, but a 4.9 two star. And "Garry Williams, 1 of the better UK offensive linemen in recent history, was a 2 star coming out of Seneca high school" not only was one of our better OL in history he had a good NFL career AND was only a 5.1 two star coming out of high school. Those were two of the most underrated recruits to ever play at UK. Locke, a 5.2, Trevathan at a 5.3, Lindley a 5.2, and even Cobb at a 5.5 were just a few of the many overlooked and underrated recruits that were coached up to give UK more success than we should have had in the SEC based on our recruiting classes.
I can't wait to see what we can do now that we are getting much better talent on board. And we certainly are, even with bad records and no bowls, these coaches can recruit, I think we really take off when we start winning a few games.
I can't wait to see what we can do now that we are getting much better talent on board. And we certainly are, even with bad records and no bowls, these coaches can recruit, I think we really take off when we start winning a few games.
Interesting subject. Cobb is best example of an underrated Kentucky recruit overachieving. James Whelan, Glenn Holt, Derek Abney, Tim Masthay, Myron Pryor, Trevard Lindley, Garry Williams, Marcus McClinton, Derrick Locke, Jeremy Jarmon, Jacob Tamme, Keenan Burton, Steve Johnson, Braxton Kelley, Wesley Woodyard, Danny Trevathan, Zipp Duncan, Matthew Smith, Ryan Tydlacka. Their stars did not predict their impact.
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