Why was Tyler throwing it in?

[jrpross]

Curious if anyone knows any reason why they'd do that. I don't claim to be an expert on strategy but I couldn't figure out why they kept doing that. Every time Tyler took the inbounds pass, he'd effortlessly dribble through as many guys as he needed to to break the press. When he threw the ball in, he'd end up throwing it to a big guy, or Murray who'd try to run through it and get out of control & turn it over, or they'd waste a timeout because nobody would get open. It was the simplest thing but it killed us numerous times in the 2nd half.

 

[HoopsDavid]

That was a poor coaching move. We had no trouble with the press until Cal made that change.
Made no sense.

 

[Hoskins91]

He didn't trust anybody else to inbound, and I'm sure they were supposed to give it right back. Our guys weren't very smart today.

 

[Catman100]

Thought that was a terrible coaching move....Make the quickest guy in the gym stand still with the ball? Did not get that one.

 

[hoodro]

He didn't trust anybody else to inbound, and I'm sure they were supposed to give it right back. Our guys weren't very smart today.

This. Everyone else was making poor decisions and struggling just to get the ball in.

 

[Blueblood22]

No idea, I hated it.

 

[Mojocat]

He didn't trust anybody else to inbound, and I'm sure they were supposed to give it right back. Our guys weren't very smart today.

Yes, exactly - no faith that anyone else could inbound the ball. Getting open to catch the ball should be relatively easy in theory, then just give it back to Ulis.....

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

Down the stretch UL changed to inbounds pressure instead of waiting until it was thrown in to pressure. UK did not make the adjustment, burning 1 TO and then getting the 5 second call. Tyler maybe didn't want to call the last TO but he has to.

 

[sefleming]

I was thinking it was to get the ball inbounds and then return the ball to the inbounder in this case Ulis ASAP.

 

[LmdCat]

It made no sense to me and what made it worse was that most of the time the ball went to Murry who is nothing but a turnover waiting to happen.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

I agree with everyones' logic on why it was done...but UL could not stop Ulis from getting the ball when he was not the inbounder so I'd have just let him keep catching it from the inbounder.

 

[UPSCat4080]

Tyler was working himself to death in the second half trying to get open off a double team. Anyone who has ever actually played basketball (not talking little league or elementary lol) knows that the easiest way to get the ball to the exact guy you want it to is to have him inbound the ball, step right in and receive the ball back. This was a great (really not great but common sense) move, but as soon as Cal saw Murray and Hawkins weren't interested in kicking it right back then he should have scraped it.

 

[cats will be back]

I agree with everyones' logic on why it was done...but UL could not stop Ulis from getting the ball when he was not the inbounder so I'd have just let him keep catching it from the inbounder.

This!

 

[Bkocats]

He didn't trust anybody else to inbound, and I'm sure they were supposed to give it right back. Our guys weren't very smart today.

and he was inbounding to Murray - when it worked, Murray gave it right back. Both are (usually) the best FT shooters.
I don't think it was a bad coaching move as much as it wasn't executed well

 

[catsfan3523]

Typically you want the best ball handler taking it out so he can get the ball back right after throwing it in. Problem today was nobody was really cutting hard to the ball to get open.

 

[tapemaster8]

Cal said on post game show it was because of how UL ran their press leaving the inbounder open. Plus he is our best passer!

 

[BlueBallz]

It looked like they started to double team Ullis on the inbound, that's when it seemed Cal made the change. He may have been trying to get Ullis to inbound, then they could pass it back so he could bring it up.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Thought that was a terrible coaching move....Make the quickest guy in the gym stand still with the ball? Did not get that one.

Not a poor coaching move just because you don't understand the thought behind it. I do agree though I wouldn't have him throwing it in, but the reason is a you have a good decision maker making the pass, and two after he gets it in that means there is then no man denying him the ball and he is already facing the direction towards the other end of the floor. In other words he is the release in the press.

 

[LmdCat]

Not a poor coaching move just because you don't understand the thought behind it. I do agree though I wouldn't have him throwing it in, but the reason is a you have a good decision maker making the pass, and two after he gets it in that means there is then no man denying him the ball and he is already facing the direction towards the other end of the floor. In other words he is the release in the press.

If Little ricky had a clue, He would have placed a much taller player in front of Ullis. However, I think he wanted Ullis throwing the ball into Murray because he knew Murray wasn't going to give it back.

 

[uk78]

UL makes their living off of the press and turning the ball over. True, a couple turn-overs came late in the game, but you cold also look at the OVERALL game and say that Kentucky handled it pretty well.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

UL makes their living off of the press and turning the ball over. True, a couple turn-overs came late in the game, but you cold also look at the OVERALL game and say that Kentucky handled it pretty well.

Yeah, I don't recall many turnovers brining the ball up. Murray's came driving the lane with his head down.

 

[LmdCat]

UL makes their living off of the press and turning the ball over. True, a couple turn-overs came late in the game, but you cold also look at the OVERALL game and say that Kentucky handled it pretty well.

Kentucky handled the press extremely well. Most of UK's turnovers came from Murray senselessly driving into trouble from the extended right elbow and not taking the wide open 3 ball. He consistently turned easy basket attempts into extremely difficult ones.

 

[IL Wildcat]

The strategy should be clear. Louisville was guarding the inbounds then trapping whoever received the first pass. The idea was to have Ulis inbound the ball then get it right back. The problem was that the other guards weren't able to get open very well.

It was a good idea on paper but didn't work very well in reality. Ulis is the best at getting open also. We needed a bigger player throwing it in to Ulis, imo.

 

[jrpross]

Not a poor coaching move just because you don't understand the thought behind it. I do agree though I wouldn't have him throwing it in, but the reason is a you have a good decision maker making the pass, and two after he gets it in that means there is then no man denying him the ball and he is already facing the direction towards the other end of the floor. In other words he is the release in the press.

Makes sense. I get the reasoning. It was driving me nuts though, because it didn't work very well and resulted in a couple turnovers. Even when Murray got it down court, it made me nervous because I just think the team works better when Tyler starts the offense.

 

[CatFanInTheBathtub]

If Cal only had time to come on here and explain all his coaching decisions that are over your heads, threads like this wouldn't exist.

Go question somebody who hasn't won 96% of their home games and 8 of 9 against their biggest rival.

 

[pikespeak1]

That was a poor coaching move. We had no trouble with the press until Cal made that change.
Made no sense.

This just shows how little our fans know about basketball. Its was a great move.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Curious if anyone knows any reason why they'd do that. I don't claim to be an expert on strategy but I couldn't figure out why they kept doing that. Every time Tyler took the inbounds pass, he'd effortlessly dribble through as many guys as he needed to to break the press. When he threw the ball in, he'd end up throwing it to a big guy, or Murray who'd try to run through it and get out of control & turn it over, or they'd waste a timeout because nobody would get open. It was the simplest thing but it killed us numerous times in the 2nd half.

Coach told them to do that.

 

[WildcatDJ]

This is where we really missed Briscoe.

 

[cats2010]

This just shows how little our fans know about basketball. Its was a great move.

Great move how? I don't recall UK having any trouble getting the ball in to ULIS but I do recall ULIS having to call a timeout and getting a 5 second call in a pivotal part of the game. It might have been an excellent move if the intentions were for him to inbound and get it right back but I don't recall that happening one single time.

 

[SpensBRJ]

I am with WildcatDJ, I like the move of TU inbounding with a full guard complement and with the them allowing the middle of the court open on the break, towards the end of the game though.... I wanted the ball only in TU's hands

 

[DeerTurkHunter1]

If Little ricky had a clue, He would have placed a much taller player in front of Ullis. However, I think he wanted Ullis throwing the ball into Murray because he knew Murray wasn't going to give it back.

It's ULIS.

 

[CharlieT71059]

We won. Bahahahah

 

[c1doc]

Tyler said he was starting to get cramps....

 

[FishersBlue]

Its actually the exact right move if teams dont guard the inbound player. In this scenario the inbound player can almost always get the ball back immediately and be the primary ballhandler against the press. Teams dont guard the inbound guy cause its usually a big guy they would love get the ball back.

 

[K_TIME]

Thought that was a terrible coaching move....Make the quickest guy in the gym stand still with the ball? Did not get that one.

THis is what I saw. Just have Murray and Ullis in backcourt cutting to get open and either Lee/Hawkins passing it in. Putting Ullis as inbounder just made it easier for UL to deny the cutters...Ullis is a blur, let me work on UL press to get open. He was doing just fine until that weird move by Cal.

 

[Cats192]

The obvious plan was to give it back to Ulis. And if we'd had Briscore out there, it would have been fine. I was always a fan of having a big come down and catch a lob. Why'd they go away from that?

 

[Blueathletics]

Gotta learn to ball fake and head fake to get 'em going the other way when you can't run the baseline...You gotta do this when you don't have a tree like WCS or KAT to toss it high to

 

[Old_Red]

Thought that was a terrible coaching move....Make the quickest guy in the gym stand still with the ball? Did not get that one.

In the postgame, Calipari said that Tyler Ulis was cramping up at the end of the game. I'm not sure why so many are convinced that Calipari doesn't know what he is doing.