While Skal Cleared to Play, Diallo is Still Waiting

[Smashcat]

Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria Oct 24
Kentucky Freshman Skal Labissiere Cleared by NCAA, Kansas’ Cheick Diallo Still Waiting http://zagsblog.com/kansas/skal-labissiere-cleared-by-ncaa-cheick-diallo-still-waiting/… via @adamzagoria

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Based on what we know, I hope he plays. I'd prefer they lose in the 2nd round again with a loaded team - fully carrying on the KU tradition of sorrowful underachievement.

 

[Smashcat]

Based on what we know, I hope he plays. I'd prefer they lose in the 2nd round again with a loaded team - fully carrying on the KU tradition of sorrowful underachievement.

Works for me.

 

[kyjeff1]

Well they gave the full details on the Skal situation but nobody ever talks about Diallo, is there something the NCAA is looking into? Is it just grades?

 

[BostonCat2001]

why does KU keep recruiting players with such sketchy backgrounds. self desperate?

 

[Rhavicc]

why does KU keep recruiting players with such sketchy backgrounds. self desperate?

Kid doesn't have a sketchy background. He came from Mali to go to school and play ball in the states. It's not a question about him, it's a question about the school he went to previously. If I understand correctly, he's already been through a semester at Kansas and made good grades, so it's not a question of him having poor academics, or a sketchy background. As far as I know, the kid has a glowing record, it's just that some of his record may be invalidated because of his high school, not because of him.

 

[Bkocats]

Kid doesn't have a sketchy background. He came from Mali to go to school and play ball in the states. It's not a question about him, it's a question about the school he went to previously. If I understand correctly, he's already been through a semester at Kansas and made good grades, so it's not a question of him having poor academics, or a sketchy background. As far as I know, the kid has a glowing record, it's just that some of his record may be invalidated because of his high school, not because of him.

I really don't care who the player is, or for whom they play - that really just sucks. I hate it for these kids when this happens - they just want to play ball.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Kid doesn't have a sketchy background. He came from Mali to go to school and play ball in the states. It's not a question about him, it's a question about the school he went to previously. If I understand correctly, he's already been through a semester at Kansas and made good grades, so it's not a question of him having poor academics, or a sketchy background. As far as I know, the kid has a glowing record, it's just that some of his record may be invalidated because of his high school, not because of him.

would this be summer school....taking one or two classes at the most...freshman level...online based.....with an academic support staff....

congrats to the kid.

 

[Orange Soda King]

would this be summer school....taking one or two classes at the most...freshman level...online based.....with an academic support staff....

congrats to the kid.

He speaks multiple languages and is quite intelligent. Sure, he probably won't take classes more advanced than required, but I doubt he would need lots of help and tutoring to the point of spoon feeding or doing it for him. Think KAT, Poythress, Knight...

 

[KnowsAllTellsAll]

why does KU keep recruiting players with such sketchy backgrounds. self desperate?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Calipari recruited Diallo too. And you were one of the biggest cheerleaders saying that Diallo would be a Wildcat. Revisionist much?

 

[NavyKat]

Not the kids fault. NCAA sucks balls. Kid should play.

 

[Rhavicc]

would this be summer school....taking one or two classes at the most...freshman level...online based.....with an academic support staff....

congrats to the kid.

You're reaching. I gave you the reason why he's waiting for clearinghouse. It has nothing to do with his character (which by everything I've heard or seen, all says he is a good kid), or his intelligence (good grades, speaks 4 languages, etc.)
It has to do with his high school. Period. Point blank. That's all there is to it. I get that you don't like Kansas, neither do I, but let's not pretend that this is some shady kid. He deserves to play.

 

[.S&C.]

He speaks 41 languages and is said to smash books with his brain without even touching them. I heard he made A's in some school in Zimbabwe that didn't even have books, desks, or teachers. I've also heard he understands the language of the "day of Pentecost". Like, he's the only dude who can speak to God.

Wonder if his parents will do the Kansas thing and take loans on future earnings? That's the only holdup I see.

 

[Cat Ballou]

NCAA needs to get out of business of determining athlete academic eligibility. If a kid can meet the entrance requirements for a school, he should be good to go.

It's especially galling considering the NCAA is dragging their feet about what actually is a serious concern and a legitimate exploitation of student-athletics and that is schools (like UNC) creating fake classes and degrees just to keep athletes eligible once they're admitted.

 

[lkc1234]

Kid doesn't have a sketchy background. He came from Mali to go to school and play ball in the states. It's not a question about him, it's a question about the school he went to previously. If I understand correctly, he's already been through a semester at Kansas and made good grades, so it's not a question of him having poor academics, or a sketchy background. As far as I know, the kid has a glowing record, it's just that some of his record may be invalidated because of his high school, not because of him.

Does Kansas have those same AFAM studies that Roy Williams utilized so well at UNC. I know Roy was the basketball coach at Kansas prior to Self. That could be a reason Diallo has glowing grades. McCants at UNC went from flunking out to the Deans list by taking four AFAM courses and making straight A's.

 

[K-Town Kat]

Yeah seems to be a matter of whether all of his high school coursework was legitimate or not based on the school he attended.

Hope he's cleared and can play.

 

[Dreklie]

Well, at least we all know when it's March ... If Kansas is losing, it's March.

 

[Deli owl]

I feel bad for all those bank robbers out there. Poor guys just want to have money.

 

[.S&C.]

Yeah seems to be a matter of whether all of his high school coursework was legitimate or not based on the school he attended.

Hope he's cleared and can play.

I'd rather he not play. Ima UK fan......

Here's to hoping he might clear after our game or not at all.

I WANT HIM TO MAKE A FORTUNE IN THE NBA THO!!

 

[the stat man]

Hate it for the young man ,but there are only three schools better that it could happen to ! UNCheat, U of Smell or Puke !!

 

[.S&C.]

Does Kansas have those same AFAM studies that Roy Williams utilized so well at UNC. I know Roy was the basketball coach at Kansas prior to Self. That could be a reason Diallo has glowing grades. McCants at UNC went from flunking out to the Deans list by taking four AFAM courses and making straight A's.

I'm actually on a Missouri board under another name and some of their longtime posters claim the are already digging on Kansas because they say they know for a fact there was clustering going on in some of the same areas at Kansas under Roy AND WALDEN. they were both at Kansas first. Id bet money something comes of this in the future. Kansas has always been and will always be the dirtiest old program in history.

 

[Xception]

Kid doesn't have a sketchy background. He came from Mali to go to school and play ball in the states. It's not a question about him, it's a question about the school he went to previously. If I understand correctly, he's already been through a semester at Kansas and made good grades, so it's not a question of him having poor academics, or a sketchy background. As far as I know, the kid has a glowing record, it's just that some of his record may be invalidated because of his high school, not because of him.

Players at UNC make the Deans list without going to class and I'm sure Kansas learned the UNC reach around from Roy . What Diallo did before Kansas is of much more importance than a semester of grades as a Jayhawk .

 

[RC_Texas]

I'm actually on a Missouri board under another name and some of their longtime posters claim the are already digging on Kansas because they say they know for a fact there was clustering going on in some of the same areas at Kansas under Roy AND WALDEN. they were both at Kansas first. Id bet money something comes of this in the future. Kansas has always been and will always be the dirtiest old program in history.

Nothing has more creditability than a MethZoo fan taking trash on Kansas...except maybe a University of Louisville fan talking about UK. I thought you were smarter than that S&C.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

would this be summer school....taking one or two classes at the most...freshman level...online based.....with an academic support staff....

congrats to the kid.

Really? Bashing the kid over taking college classes?

 

[W_Heisenberg]

NCAA needs to get out of business of determining athlete academic eligibility. If a kid can meet the entrance requirements for a school, he should be good to go.

It's especially galling considering the NCAA is dragging their feet about what actually is a serious concern and a legitimate exploitation of student-athletics and that is schools (like UNC) creating fake classes and degrees just to keep athletes eligible once they're admitted.

Totally agree...if the university says he can enroll, that's all you need to know. I don't care what HS he went to or if he was home schooled, if he took the necessary SAT/ACT tests and received adequate score levels, in addition to a GPA, then what are we debating here?

 

[Bodvar Bjarki]

I hope he's eligible as I was looking forward to watching Self ruin another promising career.

 

[crawfords corner]

Odds there is a ruling on his status this week?

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Kid doesn't have a sketchy background. He came from Mali to go to school and play ball in the states. It's not a question about him, it's a question about the school he went to previously. If I understand correctly, he's already been through a semester at Kansas and made good grades, so it's not a question of him having poor academics, or a sketchy background. As far as I know, the kid has a glowing record, it's just that some of his record may be invalidated because of his high school, not because of him.

Which is ridiculous. I've never understood this whole business about validating certain courses or having the right curriculum or whatever. Nobody is under any delusion that the elite athletes intend to stay 4 yrs, and the universities that accept these players are not doing so with the primary objective of educating them. Doesn't mean that the education part shouldn't be a necessary and mandatory aspect of it as well, but for the vast majority of these players, it is secondary to getting to the league, and there is nothing wrong with that.

And even if some player doesn't have the right coursework and gets into a college anyway, so what? Why shouldn't they have the option of getting that education too, if they choose to pursue that as well as their dream of playing pro? Who is harmed by letting someone in who wouldn't otherwise have the opportunity? Sure, many of them don't take advantage of the opportunity for the free education, but what does keeping them out accomplish? The spot is just going to go to another player in a similar situation anyway.

 

[Willy4UK]

As far as I know, the kid has a glowing record.

Man, the technology these days...

 

[.S&C.]

Nothing has more creditability than a MethZoo fan taking trash on Kansas...except maybe a University of Louisville fan talking about UK. I thought you were smarter than that S&C.

You scared RC?

 

[RC_Texas]

You scared RC?

Yes. When I see grown men say stupid thing. It scares me that you are in a responsible position that people rely on you making sound decisions.

 

[Rhavicc]

Does Kansas have those same AFAM studies that Roy Williams utilized so well at UNC. I know Roy was the basketball coach at Kansas prior to Self. That could be a reason Diallo has glowing grades. McCants at UNC went from flunking out to the Deans list by taking four AFAM courses and making straight A's.

I believe you have me mistaken for a Kansas fan. Seems like the problem with some here. If you advocate for a player that plays for another team, you have to be a fan of that team.

My advice to you, if you wanna know, ask a Kansas fan.

 

[poppycat]

Have they changed the rules?
Used to be that a person had to have a legit h.s. diploma and a qualifying ACT
to enroll in college for any reason be it to become a professional teacher,
doctor, accountant, or pro bb or fb player. Am I wrong?

 

[poppycat]

Well they gave the full details on the Skal situation but nobody ever talks about Diallo, is there something the NCAA is looking into? Is it just grades?[/QUOTE

Just checking to see if he has survived an earthquake.

 

[RC_Texas]

Players at UNC make the Deans list without going to class and I'm sure Kansas learned the UNC reach around from Roy . What Diallo did before Kansas is of much more importance than a semester of grades as a Jayhawk .

The information that the NCAA has requested and that Diallo is now trying to provide is his class work from his freshman year in Africa before he came the United States. His three classmates at OSNA were vetted and cleared by the NCAA. Wilson (Pitt) and Dillard (Ok State) were at OSNA the same approximately length of time and took the same classes.

Trying to tie Self to Roy Williams who he never worked under or isn't from the coaching tree is a stretch. I understand simple-minded people might jump to the that conclusion but I expect more from knowledgeable basketball fans.

 

[RC_Texas]

Have they changed the rules?
Used to be that a person had to have a legit h.s. diploma and a qualifying ACT
to enroll in college for any reason be it to become a professional teacher,
doctor, accountant, or pro bb or fb player. Am I wrong?

You are correct. The rules should be the same. All of Diallo's classmates at OSNA were vetted and cleared by the NCAA. Kobie Eubanks who attended OSNA for one year committed to 'Bama only to have issues with his SAT or ACT scores. He had to retake. He is eligible to start in December.

Diallo graduated from OSNA, took his SAT and was accepted at Kansas.

 

[Untouchables22]

I think it's really stupid that the NCAA has made it known that it's only going to investigate 50 kids a year for Men's basketball. I understand that you don't have the resources to check everybody out and that's fine. But it signals to everybody else that unless you are a top 50 level recruit or the media signals you out publicly for potential eligibility concerns and forces the NCAA to investigate you that you likely won't be investigated and can get away with whatever you want. The NCAA should vary how many people they investigate every year and randomly pick 50 out of the top 100 to look into unless there is "probable cause" for an investigation on a specific player.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Really? Bashing the kid over taking college classes?

no...i'm bashing the idiots who think getting a B in summer school at college is something that is significant.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Have they changed the rules?
Used to be that a person had to have a legit h.s. diploma and a qualifying ACT
to enroll in college for any reason be it to become a professional teacher,
doctor, accountant, or pro bb or fb player. Am I wrong?

yes

its not about having a diploma. its about completing core courses in things like english, math, and science. in theory you could go to a HS and not do well in these courses and still get a diploma.

with diallo...i believe the issues is that some of his course work is being examine for whatever reason.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

I hope Diallo plays. but I also think KU should forfeit its wins with alexander last year too. If Memphis and Umass had to, its only fair. of course the NCAA may not want to do that and is doing the ole make up call with Diallo.