They have 3 road wins in conference, including at Texas A&M, and only 3 losses total, but not ranked.
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What does SoCar have to do to get some love from AP voters?
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Many other schools would play terrible ooc schedules and still be ranked. UL would do this every year.
It's still a disservice to the kids at SC for the work and effort they have put in.
It's still a disservice to the kids at SC for the work and effort they have put in.
Louisville played the worst OOC schedule in the history of mankind except for the game against us, and they only have 1 big win, like SCAR.
They have Little Brothel's out of conference schedule minus Michigan State and UK,
plus they don't offer any whorespitality packages.
plus they don't offer any whorespitality packages.
Louisville's overall SOS is 94th, though (their conference SOS is 13th). South Carolina's overall SOS is 194th. Nobody in the top 25 in RPI even comes close to that (SMU is closest, at 101st).
So, before it was ooc schedule, now it's overall sos? Is your back hurting carrying UL's water?
No, I'm just not biased (at least not to the point of being a fool). And if you think I "carry Louisville's water," please check my posting history. I wouldn't touch anything from that place -- too afraid of catching an STD.
By the way, here's the post I made in the other thread about the AP poll (I guess you just overlooked it when you made this thread?), which I made before my posts in this thread:
"South Carolina's non-conference strength of schedule is ranked 320th per RPI and 287th per KenPom (both systems state that South Carolina's only played one game so far this season against a top 25 team). That probably has a lot to do with them not being ranked in the AP poll."
45 in Sagarin, 45 in KenPom, 26 in RPI, 35 in BPI, 26 in AP, 20 in coaches. They've played one of the worst schedules in the country and haven't looked particularly impressive, with an average margin of victory of only 1.3 points against top-100 opponents (and only one of those opponents being top 50). It's not a conspiracy, it's not anti-SEC bias. Other teams have better resumes.
UofL did that this year, they only play MSU and UK the rest of the OCC was so weak that only KWC a D2 school gave them much of a game in preseason. Until the beat UNC they did not have a good win to their record.
No one can make an excuse for why USC isn't ranked as it is a joke. They are a top 20 team. But whatever rankings are stupid anyway.
While I agree that they should be in the top 25, they do have a horrendous OOC schedule. Plus, I don't believe there is a lot of love for Frank Martin within the media community. I really can't disagree with that, either. Although I think he is a fairly competent coach, I also think he is one missed Prozac from going postal at any given time, too.
Gamecocks also avoided trips to LSU, Kentucky, Florida and Vanderbilt. They have the 287th overall SOS in the nation. That's why. Lucky.
Play some noteworthy OoC games. I get perhaps why Martin and USC didn't do that. Their trying to drag the program out of the ashes. Now that it appears he may have done that, they need to schedule some worthy opponents in Nov./Dec. Just as Cal and UK do. UK always has. We lost them both, but not a lot of teams in any conference take on the challenge of playing at UCLA, and at KU.
Eh. I'd buy it if the coach/AP polls had a long history of producing intriguing, nuanced lists based on in-depth metrics which cause you to sit back and think.
That's pretty far from the case, though.
I agree they should be ranked. I think it is much more likely they lose both games than win both this week.
I just want to be competitive against LSU and UK. FM is building something but we are not there yet by a long shot. Have you see our Lithuanians of late? Yeah, we haven't either.
Have you seen uk play on the road this year? It is not pretty most of the time. You have a very good chance to beat us this weekend. I am so unconfident about UK on the road that I have to predict an 0-4 road finish unless something changes asap
We have been trying to schedule aggressively since Martin came here. For instance, we played Baylor, OK State, and Iowa State last year, a fairly respectable bunch. We've always wanted to play against noteworthy teams, but that doesn't mean they want to play us. From their perspective, a win doesn't help them with the committee, but a loss might ruin their season. We just plain didn't offer enough in terms of preparation for conference play and resume building. For example, it's not like big-name, tournament-contending teams are leaping out of their skins at the opportunity to play Rutgers, and that's basically where we were at four years ago. Hopefully that will change after this year.
It's not like we went out of our way to schedule a bunch of scrubs this year, by the way. Oral Roberts makes tournament appearances every couple years, while Tulsa and Memphis are generally pretty solid. St. John's and Drexel, both semi-regulars in the tournament, suffered major losses after the schedules were made (half of St. John's roster left, and Drexel lost the nation's #3 scorer). From a name-brand perspective, it's not our fault that Hofstra beat Florida State in the Virgin Islands. I'm not trying to say we didn't play an easy schedule; we did. All I'm trying to say is that we really are trying to put together the most challenging schedule we can. Everybody on there this year just let us down.
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Are you insinuating the AP uses those metrics to judge all teams ratings? Because that's not even close to the truth. Memphis made a living in the top 25 beating rice and east Carolina.
Stats mean nothing the game is played on the court and they have performed. This is simple. There aren't 25 teams better than USC. The end.
Are you insinuating the AP uses those metrics to judge all teams ratings? Because that's not even close to the truth. Memphis made a living in the top 25 beating rice and east Carolina.
Stats mean nothing the game is played on the court and they have performed. This is simple. There aren't 25 teams better than USC. The end.
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