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We finally know who the lone coach voting for Duke is in the Coaches Poll

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Per Anthony Wireman:

Young was quoted in the Chattanooga Times Free Press as saying:



"Well, I know one No. 1 vote Duke got, and that was mine," said
Wofford coach Mike Young, the lone member of USA Today's 32-member
coaches' poll to side with the Blue Devils. "I know Kentucky is such a
remarkable team -- so long and so deep. But Duke is just as terrific. I
know I'd love to see them play each other in the (NCAA) tournament."


http://www.allkyhoops.com/2015/01/the-college-coac
 
Originally posted by FiveStarCat:
Per Anthony Wireman:

Young was quoted in the Chattanooga Times Free Press as saying:



"Well, I know one No. 1 vote Duke got, and that was mine," said
Wofford coach Mike Young, the lone member of USA Today's 32-member
coaches' poll to side with the Blue Devils. "I know Kentucky is such a
remarkable team -- so long and so deep. But Duke is just as terrific. I
know I'd love to see them play each other in the (NCAA) tournament."
I if I lost by 30+ points to a team, I wouldn't want to believe that there is a better team than them, either. That said, he st00pid.
 
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
 
Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
They very well could. I'd prefer they get a 1 seed on the other side of the bracket just to play it safe. If we meet, it will be one the most anticipated championship match-ups since probably UNC v. Illinois in 2005.
 
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That kind a takes the fun out of it! I kind a enjoyed thinking it was Boeheim.....
 
Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
Of course, they could beat us. That doesn't mean it's likely. Duke still doesn't play great defense.
 
Originally posted by FiveStarCat:
Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
They very well could. I'd prefer they get a 1 seed on the other side of the bracket just to play it safe. If we meet, it will be one the most anticipated championship match-ups since probably UNC v. Illinois in 2005.
There have been just as anticipated ones since then. In 2007 you had #1 seeds FL and #1 seed OSU. In 2008, Memphis vs. KU, or any combination of the 4 Final Four teams would have been dynamite.

The title game match ups since then have been lacking to say the least, with that awful Butler vs. UCONN one coming to mind. The 2012 game at least had two Blue Bloods going at it...but for it to have been highly anticipated would have had to include UNC as the other team IMO.
 
Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by FiveStarCat:
Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
They very well could. I'd prefer they get a 1 seed on the other side of the bracket just to play it safe. If we meet, it will be one the most anticipated championship match-ups since probably UNC v. Illinois in 2005.
There have been just as anticipated ones since then. In 2007 you had #1 seeds FL and #1 seed OSU. In 2008, Memphis vs. KU, or any combination of the 4 Final Four teams would have been dynamite.

The title game match ups since then have been lacking to say the least, with that awful Butler vs. UCONN one coming to mind. The 2012 game at least had two Blue Bloods going at it...but for it to have been highly anticipated would have had to include UNC as the other team IMO.
Forgot about the 2007 Final. I did think of the Memphis, KU game but I think the UNC-Illinois one trumps that, mostly because the Memphis name and conference they were in. All three match-ups were great though, and featured the two best teams of those seasons IIRC.
 
Eerrrr! My new phone keeps capin different words like "THATS "for some reason. And "MEMPHIS". I feel like evilblueballs half the time.


With Duke I almost have that feeling like if we beat them I knew we would, but if we don't I should have seen it. Duke is a very poor free throw shooting team this year however, and they usually rely on them. And chad is right their defense, especially perimeter defense, blows as usual. Just something among other things.

Yea that 2005 Illinois team should have been the winner that year. I remember it well. It's hard to believe thats been ten years. Where the hell does time go? I'm gonna figure out how to move at the speed of light so I age slower or something. Gotta figure out the humans version of particle acceleration.

Dee Brown
Luther Head
Deron Williams
James Autustine (always forgotten with that team)

I believe they had 37 wins that season, which should be around the most ever? I remember they were one point at Ohio State from being undefeated going into the national title game. Remarkable team. And what was wild looking back was Dee Brown was the stud of that team. I believe he was also on the over of 2K5 if I remember correctly.

I'd be pissed if I were weber. Knowing the UNCheat scandal was at its height in '05, Id want recognition.

This post was edited on 1/6 4:07 PM by .S&C.
 
Originally posted by wcc31:

Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
Of course, they could beat us. That doesn't mean it's likely. Duke still doesn't play great defense.
Totally agree, because in my eyes, and I can't believe I am saying this, UNC plays better defense than Duke.

Those games won't be lopsided as long as UNC doesn't implode from the distractions. The only question is can UNC outscore Duke? Probably not. Duke/Okafor will get plenty of foul shots and charges.
 
Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by FiveStarCat:
Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
They very well could. I'd prefer they get a 1 seed on the other side of the bracket just to play it safe. If we meet, it will be one the most anticipated championship match-ups since probably UNC v. Illinois in 2005.
There have been just as anticipated ones since then. In 2007 you had #1 seeds FL and #1 seed OSU. In 2008, Memphis vs. KU, or any combination of the 4 Final Four teams would have been dynamite.

The title game match ups since then have been lacking to say the least, with that awful Butler vs. UCONN one coming to mind. The 2012 game at least had two Blue Bloods going at it...but for it to have been highly anticipated would have had to include UNC as the other team IMO.
To put a nail in the coffin on most anticipated finals, how about UK and Duke, both undefeated. THAT would be one for the ages! Then a 30 point beatdown by UK to win it all
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Originally posted by .S&C.:

I believe they had 37 wins that season, which should be around the most ever? I remember they were one point at Ohio State from being undefeated going into the national title game. Remarkable team. And what was wild looking back was Dee Brown was the stud of that team. I believe he was also on the over of 2K5 if I remember correctly.

I'd be pissed if I were weber. Knowing the UNCheat scandal was at its height in '05, Id want recognition.

This post was edited on 1/6 4:07 PM by .S&C.
Good point on the UNC scandal. I've thought about the vacating of that title obviously, but never thought about the runner-up. If ever there were a team deserving of a post-vacated title, it would be that Illinois team that, as you pointed out, only had that lone 1 point loss going into the tournament.

And that 37 win season puts them in a tie for second, behind only John Calipari's 2008 Memphis team and John Calipari's 2012 Kentucky team.
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^^^^^^

Yup I knew it was close to the most. It's amazing the most wins in college basketball history were Illinois and MEMPHIS until 2012.
 
Originally posted by FiveStarCat:
Originally posted by .S&C.:

I believe they had 37 wins that season, which should be around the most ever? I remember they were one point at Ohio State from being undefeated going into the national title game. Remarkable team. And what was wild looking back was Dee Brown was the stud of that team. I believe he was also on the over of 2K5 if I remember correctly.

I'd be pissed if I were weber. Knowing the UNCheat scandal was at its height in '05, Id want recognition.

This post was edited on 1/6 4:07 PM by .S&C.
Good point on the UNC scandal. I've thought about the vacating of that title obviously, but never thought about the runner-up. If ever there were a team deserving of a post-vacated title, it would be that Illinois team that, as you pointed out, only had that lone 1 point loss going into the tournament.

And that 37 win season puts them in a tie for second, behind only John Calipari's 2008 Memphis team and John Calipari's 2012 Kentucky team.
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Duke in 99 won 37, KU in 2008 won 37, did Duke win 37 in 86? I am trying to think of other 37 win teams...not many due to having to play probably 40 games to get there so only more modern teams have probably done it.
 
Originally posted by .S&C.:
^^^^^^

Yup I knew it was close to the most. It's amazing the most wins in college basketball history were Illinois and MEMPHIS until 2012.
Very true. Illinois probably even more so considering the difference between the Big Ten and Conference USA.
 
Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by FiveStarCat:
Originally posted by .S&C.:

I believe they had 37 wins that season, which should be around the most ever? I remember they were one point at Ohio State from being undefeated going into the national title game. Remarkable team. And what was wild looking back was Dee Brown was the stud of that team. I believe he was also on the over of 2K5 if I remember correctly.

I'd be pissed if I were weber. Knowing the UNCheat scandal was at its height in '05, Id want recognition.

This post was edited on 1/6 4:07 PM by .S&C.
Good point on the UNC scandal. I've thought about the vacating of that title obviously, but never thought about the runner-up. If ever there were a team deserving of a post-vacated title, it would be that Illinois team that, as you pointed out, only had that lone 1 point loss going into the tournament.

And that 37 win season puts them in a tie for second, behind only John Calipari's 2008 Memphis team and John Calipari's 2012 Kentucky team.
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Duke in 99 won 37, KU in 2008 won 37, did Duke win 37 in 86? I am trying to think of other 37 win teams...not many due to having to play probably 40 games to get there so only more modern teams have probably done it.
From an ESPN article just prior to the 2012 title game (so it has UK tied for second at 37 still):


Most victories in an NCAA Division I men's college basketball season (x-through Saturday):
38-2 -- Memphis, 2008, lost championship game
37-2 -- x-Kentucky, 2012, advanced to championship game
37-2 -- Illinois 2005, lost championship game
37-2 -- Duke 1999, lost championship game
37-2 -- UNLV 1987, lost in semifinals
37-3 -- Kansas, 2008, won championship
37-3 -- Duke 1986, lost championship game
 
8+ 3's is the only way I see UK going down. Duke can hit the outside shot, they are the team I don't want to see.
 
Originally posted by .S&C.:
Eerrrr! My new phone keeps capin different words like "THATS "for some reason. And "MEMPHIS". I feel like evilblueballs half the time.


With Duke I almost have that feeling like if we beat them I knew we would, but if we don't I should have seen it. Duke is a very poor free throw shooting team this year however, and they usually rely on them. And chad is right their defense, especially perimeter defense, blows as usual. Just something among other things.

Yea that 2005 Illinois team should have been the winner that year. I remember it well. It's hard to believe thats been ten years. Where the hell does time go? I'm gonna figure out how to move at the speed of light so I age slower or something. Gotta figure out the humans version of particle acceleration.

Dee Brown
Luther Head
Deron Williams
James Autustine (always forgotten with that team)

I believe they had 37 wins that season, which should be around the most ever? I remember they were one point at Ohio State from being undefeated going into the national title game. Remarkable team. And what was wild looking back was Dee Brown was the stud of that team. I believe he was also on the over of 2K5 if I remember correctly.

I'd be pissed if I were weber. Knowing the UNCheat scandal was at its height in '05, Id want recognition.

This post was edited on 1/6 4:07 PM by .S&C.
If Duke's free throw shooting is very poor then I would hate to see what you call UK's. Duke is definitely below their norm but Okafor appears to be improving.
 
Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
Well it's not out of the question.
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Duke has to play a pretty touch conference schedule.. We don't.. Advantage?
 
Originally posted by Hopmix:
Duke has to play a pretty touch conference schedule.. We don't.. Advantage?
I don't think the ACC is nearly as tough as everyone claims, but yes, it is an advantage for the overall #1 seed.
 
It's still a free country, man has a right to his opinion. After tonight they will probably get more than 1 vote from the coaches poll.
 
Originally posted by mark0202:

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That kind a takes the fun out of it! I kind a enjoyed thinking it was Boeheim.....
Me also loved blaming the old nose picker
 
Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
But you've held that mixed position all season for the most part. You were touting Duke's greatness the first week of the season, which is fine because they're also pretty darn good.
 
Originally posted by .S&C.:
I'm really torn as to whether or not Duke could beat us, and I'm well aware THATS not a popular thing to say on this board.
Duke wouldn't run around jacking up off balance threes all night like Ole Miss did either.
 
Originally posted by new era cat:
....and they will get some more after tonight's debacle.
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Kentucky's not a perfect team. Duke is also a great team. Do the math. Duke probably deserves some votes.
 
Originally posted by new era cat:

Originally posted by JerseyCat84:

Originally posted by new era cat:
....and they will get some more after tonight's debacle.
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Debacle? We won.


By definition,yes.

Defensively it was an utter failure.
So what's your thesis? They played awful defensively and Ole Miss was unconscious and yet Kentucky still won.


You might feel it's a bad sign; I consider it but a small glimpse of Kentucky's potential.
 
The Cats did what they had to do to win the game, that close call will impact voters however. Right or wrong opions vary as to the present circumstances. They will still be Number 1 in both polls, unless something stranger happens at A&M on Saturday !
 
Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:
Kentucky's not a perfect team. Duke is also a great team. Do the math. Duke probably deserves some votes.
This. To their credit, Ole Miss played a near perfect game (especially on the road) for a team of their caliber-- shot extremely well from the FT line, hit several contested 3's, outrebounded us, all while we played marginal on defensive.

But, unless you watched the game, all some will see is the final score and the team- Ole Miss.

Won't be surprised if Duke get's more votes. It's OK since it's all subjective anyway.
 
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