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USAToday Article: Pitino should be held accountable for Louisville scandal. Period.

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Maybe there’s a better word to describe what happened at Louisville, but the first one that came to mind: Sickening.

There were strippers and escorts, hired over and over again to entertain recruits and current basketball players, and, in some cases, paid to have sex with them. There was an assistant coach, Andre McGee, who organized and orchestrated all of it; the sex acts, stripteases and cash totaled at least $5,400, the NCAA found.

And there was a head coach — Hall of Famer Rick Pitino — who allowed all of this to happen under his watch.

The NCAA, in its Notice of Allegations made public Thursday, charged Pitino with a Level I violation for failing to monitor a member of his staff (McGee). The NCAA found that Pitino failed to spot-check the program to uncover potential compliance problems. He didn’t look for or evaluate red flags. He didn’t ask pointed questions or solicit honest feedback to determine if the system in place for monitoring McGee was working. (Louisville plans to dispute the charge against Pitino.)

Potential punishment for Pitino could include a show-cause penalty. At the very least, he can expect a significant suspension, much like Jim Boeheim’s nine-game ban a season ago.

But Louisville was not hit with a lack of institutional control charge, and the NCAA did not determine that Pitino knew his staffer was paying for women to have sex with recruits when it happened.

So, in a weird way, the NCAA’s NOA probably resulted in a huge sigh of relief for Louisville officials. The worst of the punishment, it would appear, is in the past. Last year’s self-imposed postseason ban paid off.

But we can still feel icky about it. And it’s OK for us to pin a great deal of this on Pitino, even if he didn’t know exactly what happened when it did. Of course a coach can’t know everything going on, but this is different. Pitino should have known about this; it’s his program, and these sex-for-recruit arrangements took place over a period ofyears in an on-campus dormitory named for Pitino’s late brother-in-law.

Sure, head coaches like to turn a blind eye to recruiting visits. It’s a wink-wink, nudge-nudge, show ‘em a good time kind of setup. But head coaches have to be smart, too. That’s why they talk to trainers, academic advisers and strength coaches, anyone who can keep the head coach in the loop about what players are talking about when coaches aren’t around — and what’s really going on.

There’s no excuse for not knowing, and thankfully the new NCAA penalty structure agrees. Coaches are now held accountable for what happens under their watch, whether they knew about it at the time or not. That’s the right approach for any and all wrongdoing.

And that’s exactly why Pitino should be held accountable here.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...a-violations-notice-of-allegationsi/92458918/

I'm guessing a 12 or 13 game suspension for Pitino so he returns for the Dec 21st game versus UK in the Yum Center.
 
UofL is fighting this, so there is no way that the NCAA can give a suspension within the next 90 days. No way he will start his suspension in 2016
 
With out going on a rant, Coach Pitino absolutely has to be held accountable for this mess. Regardless if he knew about it or not and I find that hard to believe if these parties went on for 4 years as they say, he is the head coach of the BB team and this happened under his watch. This is as sleazy as it gets.
 
Maybe there’s a better word to describe what happened at Louisville, but the first one that came to mind: Sickening.

There were strippers and escorts, hired over and over again to entertain recruits and current basketball players, and, in some cases, paid to have sex with them. There was an assistant coach, Andre McGee, who organized and orchestrated all of it; the sex acts, stripteases and cash totaled at least $5,400, the NCAA found.

And there was a head coach — Hall of Famer Rick Pitino — who allowed all of this to happen under his watch.

The NCAA, in its Notice of Allegations made public Thursday, charged Pitino with a Level I violation for failing to monitor a member of his staff (McGee). The NCAA found that Pitino failed to spot-check the program to uncover potential compliance problems. He didn’t look for or evaluate red flags. He didn’t ask pointed questions or solicit honest feedback to determine if the system in place for monitoring McGee was wseason.
Second, I believe he did know. (Louisville plans to dispute the charge against Pitino.)

Potential punishment for Pitino could include a show-cause penalty. At the very least, he can expect a significant suspension, much like Jim Boeheim’s nine-game ban a season ago.

But Louisville was not hit with a lack of institutional control charge, and the NCAA did not determine that Pitino knew his staffer was paying for women to have sex with recruits when it happened.

So, in a weird way, the NCAA’s NOA probably resulted in a huge sigh of relief for Louisville officials. The worst of the punishment, it would appear, is in the past. Last year’s self-imposed postseason ban paid off.

But we can still feel icky about it. And it’s OK for us to pin a great deal of this on Pitino, even if he didn’t know exactly what happened when it did. Of course a coach can’t know everything going on, but this is different. Pitino should have known about this; it’s his program, and these sex-for-recruit arrangements took place over a period ofyears in an on-campus dormitory named for Pitino’s late brother-in-law.

Sure, head coaches like to turn a blind eye to recruiting visits. It’s a wink-wink, nudge-nudge, show ‘em a good time kind of setup. But head coaches have to be smart, too. That’s why they talk to trainers, academic advisers and strength coaches, anyone who can keep the head coach in the loop about what players are talking about when coaches aren’t around — and what’s really going on.

There’s no excuse for not knowing, and thankfully the new NCAA penalty structure agrees. Coaches are now held accountable for what happens under their watch, whether they knew about it at the time or not. That’s the right approach for any and all wrongdoing.

And that’s exactly why Pitino should be held accountable here.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...a-violations-notice-of-allegationsi/92458918/

I'm guessing a 12 or 13 game suspension for Pitino so he returns for the Dec 21st game versus UK in the Yum Center.
First off their will not be a suspension this season, UL is fighting that charge and there will be no ruling until after the season.

Second, I believe he did know, (or found out), and thought if they ever got caught he would blame it all on Mcgee. (remember when the book came out Ricky immediately wanted Magee to own up to it, like he already set it up and told Mcgee if they get caught he is taking the fall. AND, PITINO KNEW THAT JURICH WOULD ALWAYS BELIEVE HIM. Because this bond he had with Jurich, he was willing to chance his multi million dollar contract, which goes against some of the sports writers opinions I been hearing since the NOA came out, siding with Ricky by using the narrative "why would Rick be apart of this and risk all that money" (maybe because his ego couldn't take losing to Calipari which is a whole other scenario).

Third, on the point that Pitino found out, why would Mcgee leave a job not long after he received a promotion, for a small college assistant coaching job, probably making less money? This move came not long after the NCAA changed the rules for head coaches so they can't hide behind plausible deniability. Maybe Ricky thought he should shut this down because he found out, or because the new rule was in place. Of coarse this contradict my second point, but I will repeat JURICH WOULD ALWAYS BACK PITINO TO THE BITTER END AND PITINO KNOWS THIS.
 
(Louisville plans to dispute the charge against Pitino.)

Boy I can't wait to see this. Exactly how can they explain it wasn't his job to monitor the activities for over a 4 year period.

I'm not sure what will be funnier, Tom's explanation or watching the UL lapdog fanbase agree with it. LOL!
 
I'm starting to believe now that the NCAA has told Louisville to fight, as part of the ruse. They have ignored certain aspects of this case and watered down others. We all know that documented hook ups occurred AFTER McGee was gone. How could he be solely responsible? Was McGee the only security at Minardi? Was McGee the person who reviewed security cam footage? Why did the dollar amount go to "at least $5400" instead of "as much as $10,000"?

Mango Methane was a player who took impermissible benefits and ul was told as much by the NCAA. That is the reason they didn't play post season, that is the reason Rick didn't let him play again after he had healed. Why isn't there talk of vacating those wins of games Mango played in prior to his "injury"? An injury that occurred in practice by the way, with no film record.
 
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I'm starting to believe now that the NCAA has told Louisville to fight, as part of the ruse. They have ignored certain aspects of this case and watered down others. We all know that documented hook ups occurred AFTER McGee was gone. How could he be solely responsible? Was McGee the only security at Minardi? Was McGee the person who reviewed security cam footage? Why did the dollar amount go to "at least $5400" instead of "as much as $10,000"?

Mango Methane was a player who took impermissible benefits and ul was told as much by the NCAA. That is the reason they didn't play post season, that is the reason Rick didn't let him play again after he had healed. Why isn't there talk of vacating those wins of games Mango played in prior to his "injury"? An injury that occurred in practice by the way, with no film record.
I agree what you said about Mango, they keep bumping the time frame of his injury, same thing they did with Kevin Ware before they got rid of him. The real story was never told why he left. I don't think UL can hide Mango's issues to much longer.
 
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Held accountable when pigs fly....

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I'm starting to believe now that the NCAA has told Louisville to fight, as part of the ruse. They have ignored certain aspects of this case and watered down others. We all know that documented hook ups occurred AFTER McGee was gone. How could he be solely responsible? Was McGee the only security at Minardi? Was McGee the person who reviewed security cam footage? Why did the dollar amount go to "at least $5400" instead of "as much as $10,000"?

Mango Methane was a player who took impermissible benefits and ul was told as much by the NCAA. That is the reason they didn't play post season, that is the reason Rick didn't let him play again after he had healed. Why isn't there talk of vacating those wins of games Mango played in prior to his "injury"? An injury that occurred in practice by the way, with no film record.
Sure he knew at some point before he said he found out,the whole NCAA investigation/findings are watered down and whitewashed that it barely touches on what actually occurred. The NCAA doesn't really want to know what happened,there are so many unanswered questions and holes in the timeline of events that it is only slightly less of a joke than what the NCAA did at UNC.

How do Rick or Roy still have jobs at their respective schools.The media does seem a bit more focused on the UL story than they did on the UNC story but then sex sells better than academic fraud
 
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I'm starting to believe now that the NCAA has told Louisville to fight, as part of the ruse. They have ignored certain aspects of this case and watered down others. We all know that documented hook ups occurred AFTER McGee was gone. How could he be solely responsible? Was McGee the only security at Minardi? Was McGee the person who reviewed security cam footage? Why did the dollar amount go to "at least $5400" instead of "as much as $10,000"?

Mango Methane was a player who took impermissible benefits and ul was told as much by the NCAA. That is the reason they didn't play post season, that is the reason Rick didn't let him play again after he had healed. Why isn't there talk of vacating those wins of games Mango played in prior to his "injury"? An injury that occurred in practice by the way, with no film record.
It's a different era than when the NCAA went after and held schools accountable , they still do that if they have a grudge against a particular program . Otherwise it's obvious by recent NOA's that they help schools avoid the worst parts and get by with a minimum amount of punishment .

We have just had the two worst scandals in college history with UL and UNC , yet their NOA were generous compared to what they did . It's a simple shift from doing what you're charged with and keeping schools honest to let's maximize our profit by keeping cheating programs in good shape .
 
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