UNCheat Article from NYT

[Blue_2_the_bone]

Carolina's Triumph Fails to Cover Cheating's Stain

Hadn't seen it posted here.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/...four-cheating-fake-classes.html?_r=0&referer=

 

[westerncat]

Dirtiest program in the history of the NCAA.

 

[preacherfan]

Carolina's Triumph Fails to Cover Cheating's Stain

Hadn't seen it posted here.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/...four-cheating-fake-classes.html?_r=0&referer=

Fantastic article!

 

[TrustinCal]

Everybody give that a click.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Good for the New York Times. How any honorable person could root for that program until it makes amends is a mystery to me. It would take a special type of self delusion.

 

[Smashcat]

'I’d genuflect myself, if only I could administer a mind wipe.'

 

[Ugoff]

Nice article. Read the comments and the first one just encapsulated the whole UNC mindset. Stall long enough and maybe it will go away....

WendellEastern North Carolina
Is this not old news? This scandal is over five years old. Now you bring it out again? To what end? This has been going on for a long time.

 

[dynastydreamuk]

If UNC*** wins a title and then serves no wins and banners vacated 05 09 in particular....

The sport is all fixed

 

[westerncat]

A historian, Jay Smith, has written a book, “Cheated,” on this case, and recently taught a class: “Big-Time College Sports and the Rights of Athletes, 1956 to the Present.” Students loved it; his classroom was filled. Last fall, the university canceled the class for a year.

“It’s very disillusioning to live through the last six years here,” Smith told me. “The university is operating like a crime family, and it shows the lengths to which they will go to protect their athletic machine.


Everyone needs to read the whole article .

 

[downthehatch]

This is big! After an article like this in the NYT there's no way this is swept under the rug.

 

[Elliott Tim]

Carolina's Triumph Fails to Cover Cheating's Stain

Hadn't seen it posted here.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/...four-cheating-fake-classes.html?_r=0&referer=

Here's the committee assigned to investigate NC.

 

[Elliott Tim]

Nice article. Read the comments and the first one just encapsulated the whole UNC mindset. Stall long enough and maybe it will go away....

WendellEastern North Carolina
Is this not old news? This scandal is over five years old. Now you bring it out again? To what end? This has been going on for a long time.

 

[jrpross]

This was my favorite part.

In October 2014, reporters asked Williams about the N.C.A.A. investigation. He sighed.

“It’s been a pain in the rear end,” he said. “I feel strongly, strongly, that we did things the right way.”

He was strongly incorrect. Then again, he makes $2 million a year and got more than $500,000 for making it to the Final Four. So what do I know?

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

This is big! After an article like this in the NYT there's no way this is swept under the rug.

Not quite. There have been similar articles in the past by legit newspapers. NCAA doesn't care.

 

[Ugoff]

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Harrison was just begging for a "Seth Rich" in that scene.

 

[hotelblue]

reluctant strip tease

 

[Elliott Tim]

Harrison was just begging for a "Seth Rich" in that scene.

Movie shows how power corrupts. Good intentions, twisted end. This post never happened.

 

[Elliott Tim]

Dirtiest program in the history of the NCAA.

Not true. Kentucky is. Ask the NCAA.

 

[uky8unc5]

I STOOD UP AND APPLAUDED AFTER THE FINAL PARAGRAPH!!

So we have a truth outburst. Few coaches of sound mind would think of echoing it. In October 2014, reporters asked Williams about the N.C.A.A. investigation. He sighed. “It’s been a pain in the rear end,” he said. “I feel strongly, strongly, that we did things the right way.”

He was strongly incorrect. Then again, he makes $2 million a year and got more than $500,000 for making it to the Final Four. So what do I know?

The expired are more honest. Butch Davis was fired as football coach in 2011 during the investigation into the academics of his program.

The Wainstein report described his awakening when he arrived at Chapel Hill in 2006: “He quickly realized that there was lots of talk about the importance of academics without anything to back up that talk. He found Chapel Hill’s attitude toward student-athlete academics to be like an Easter egg: Beautiful and impressive to the outside world but without much life inside.”

 

[Cychologist]

UNChearts into stall ball!

 

[MO_Blue]

Is this a real article in print, or just a blog article? Printed articles make more of an impression. Either way, this could just be another waste of ink. Integrity seems to be in short supply everywhere these days, and has been for at least a decade.

 

[ok-cats-computer]

That is an extraordinarily well-written article. After reading about the broad scope of UNC's academic fraud and cheating, I believe that the Tarheels should absolutely be subject to serious sanction from the NCAA. The SMU death penalty might be appropriate.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

It's nice to see some honest reporting on this scandal. the NCAA is an absolute joke.

 

[CRUCAT]

can you imagine the narrative if UK was in the FF under the same circumstances??? nobody would even be talking about the actual game

 

[uky8unc5]

That is an extraordinarily well-written article.

Dan Kane has done great damage to UNC. But this is a Scud missile that hit the Dean Dome. The Times is a Bully Pulpit that surely won't be ignored by Espin and others.

 

[YouKay]

I wish the Times would do some real reporting on this and not just regurgitate what we already know. But it's a good read.

 

[uky8unc5]

I wish the Times would do some real reporting on this and not just regurgitate what we already know. But it's a good read.

No kidding. UNC has been given the Teflon treatment by everyone with influence. If Dan Kane and Raleigh N&O (fueled by NC State fans) had not carried the banner, the entire mess would never have seen daylight.

 

[musrat59]

So, Ole Bubba got a $60,0000 raise.

 

[downw/ball-lineD]

Carolina's Triumph Fails to Cover Cheating's Stain

Hadn't seen it posted here.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/...four-cheating-fake-classes.html?_r=0&referer=

Can we fwd this to the ncaa? Along with our petition to ban Higgins? They will likely both be read and responded to by the appropriate higher ups right?

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

I think we are seeing the official NCAA response: an easy walk to another fake title with plenty of help when they need it. This debacle has made me lose all respect for the NCAA.

 

[Old_Red]

That

Carolina's Triumph Fails to Cover Cheating's Stain

Hadn't seen it posted here.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/...four-cheating-fake-classes.html?_r=0&referer=

That's a great article. It doesn't even mention the "Wheels for Heels", the intentional improper classification of learning disabilities to allow additional assistance to remain eligible, the drug dealer connection, the tawdry assistance to a mother having an affair to watch her son not even at UNC*** so her other son would stay an additional year in college. A former player booted from the team living in the coach's house. There are so many ways they cheated and they're going to get away with most if not all of them. I hate #UNCCHEATS and I think the #NCAAisCORRUPT and has 0 integrity and 0 intentions to follow through on what it claims is its mission.

 

[kats23]

It's great that someone is putting a spotlight on it but funny to me how people's minds have changed on here. 7 years ago the New York Times was a rag looking to save a dying industry when they wrote about the Kanter situation and the Turkish pro team that paid him.

Now everyone here wants to give the Pulitzer Prize over this article. I hate that UNC is skating on this but I'm not buying one NYT article is going to change anything. It hasn't been brought up this week at all by anybody at the pressers

 

[TheDude1]

Is this a real article in print, or just a blog article? Printed articles make more of an impression. Either way, this could just be another waste of ink. Integrity seems to be in short supply everywhere these days, and has been for at least a decade.

 

[sambowieshin]

I love UK basketball and always will, but I no longer love college basketball. It is a dirty, fixed business controlled by the money and power of television and the NCAA. At one time I do believe the NCAA had some level of integrity, but that is no more as evidenced by their handling of UNCheat and Duke.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

I love UK basketball and always will, but I no longer love college basketball. It is a dirty, fixed business controlled by the money and power of television and the NCAA. At one time I do believe the NCAA had some level of integrity, but that is no more as evidenced by their handling of UNCheat and Duke.

Sadly it is becoming more and more like professional boxing

 

[preacherfan]

It's great that someone is putting a spotlight on it but funny to me how people's minds have changed on here. 7 years ago the New York Times was a rag looking to save a dying industry when they wrote about the Kanter situation and the Turkish pro team that paid him.

Now everyone here wants to give the Pulitzer Prize over this article. I hate that UNC is skating on this but I'm not buying one NYT article is going to change anything. It hasn't been brought up this week at all by anybody at the pressers

Just because we love this article doesn't mean we love the paper. I love what one world leader said about an American politician but I don't like that world leader at all, except he definitely was right about what he said.

 

[Kai Slater]

Whatever it takes to keep this scandal in the news and to not just be brushed away into oblivion only to be forgotten about. I have little hope that justice will be served to UnCheaters but anything right now will help, even a little bit.

 

[blubo]

I hope michael powell writes a story about the otis debacle.

 

[RKulmer]

will never be commented on during the Final Four. NEVER.

 

[Cychologist]

Thank goodness for articles like this, keeping this scandal in the news. You won't hear about it from any sports commentators except when they try to justify twenty plus years of systemic fraud!