Had the displeasure of being on a plane with a UNC fan yesterday and not being able to help myself, I had to tell him I was a UK fan. After it became obvious to him I was not going to offer any congratulations or good luck wishes he said "you know it's surprising for how many guys Cal has put in the NBA to only have one title at UK. Kind of reminds me of how Dean Smith was doing same thing at UNC in the 90's..." I didn't have much of a comeback other than to say it was good to have the one.
UNC fan comparison of Cal and Dean Smith
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Easy comeback. Dean got to keep that talent for 2 years minimum.
Difference is Smith had that talent for 4 yrs. Much harder to do now.
Tell him to call you if Cal is at a blue blood for over 35 years and only has 2 titles.
Dadgummit I wish I had thought of that! I really just wanted to punch him in the mouth.
Dean Smith had more all Americans than anyone and only won 2 championships in like 45 years...1 he had to have Michael Jordan, yeah that guy, hit a last second shot and the other a guy called a timeout.
There's too many to list but:
In 94 he lost in the 2nd rd with rasheed Wallace, Jerry Stackhouse, and Eric Montross.
In 84 he lost in the s16 with Jordan, Sam Perkins, Brad Daughtery, kenny Smith, and joe wolf....all first rd draft picks.
There's too many to list but:
In 94 he lost in the 2nd rd with rasheed Wallace, Jerry Stackhouse, and Eric Montross.
In 84 he lost in the s16 with Jordan, Sam Perkins, Brad Daughtery, kenny Smith, and joe wolf....all first rd draft picks.
You do know that our arena is named after a coach who was at a blue blood with only 2 Final Four appearances and 1 title over a 20-year period, don't you?
You do know that Adolf Rupp won 4 titles (6 if you count everything like UNC) and an Olympic gold metal, not to mention countless other accomplishments dean didn't.
Why even bring that up if you are a Kentucky fan? For an attempt pointing out hypocrisy or a gotcha man on it?
http://archive.usab.com/history/all_time_mens_asstcoaches.html
Know your UK history. Adolph Rupp was NEVER the head coach of an Olympic team. He was an assistant coach. Dean Smith DID win an Olympic gold medal as head coach of the 1976 team. He also had a record against UK of 13 wins and 3 losses. That's a winning percentage of over 81%.
Know your UK history. Adolph Rupp was NEVER the head coach of an Olympic team. He was an assistant coach. Dean Smith DID win an Olympic gold medal as head coach of the 1976 team. He also had a record against UK of 13 wins and 3 losses. That's a winning percentage of over 81%.
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Countless other accomplishments Dean DIDNT. and WHAT team won that gold medal?
Dean is only on the level of Rupp, Wooden, K etc in the minds of UNC fans like yourself. In reality he's right around Pitino.
Look at his post history. He's trying really hard but he's a trolling UNC fan.
Just so you know ... Omar Browning was the head coach of the 1948 U.S. Olympic team. Adolph Rupp was the assistant. Like it or not, with a record of 13-3 against UK, Dean Smith OWNED us. Just sayin'. There's no need to question my loyalty just because I know our history.
It's never to late pard... Go back and sock em with that little piece of info...
Let them enjoy their trophy, hopefully they'll get 2-3 taken away and put on probation, if not everybody knows how corrupt your slimy athletic department is with their fake classes
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I certainly did not question your loyalty based on your knowledge of history but as to why you felt the need to mention Rupp's National Title/Final 4 Drought compared to Dean Smith with 2 National Championships compared to Adolph Rupp's 4 in the same profession. Dean Smith may have appeared in more Final 4's, great! National Championships are what means the most to a lot of fans. Rupp also won the NIT which at the time, the NCAA Tournament did not exist until a year later. The NIT still remained relevant for awhile after as there was much to be gained by the media exposure of playing in New York City.
Smith's overall record is 13-3 against UK but he was 5-2 vs an aging Adolph Rupp in the twilight of his career. Only 11 of Smith's 36 years coaching was Rupp actively a coach in the game. Smith finished with only 3 more wins than Rupp had despite all of those number of even recent great NBA players, Vince Carter to this day still playing. Sure we have had our fair share of great players, no need to inform me on that.
When Adolph Rupp retired, if you won Conference/NCAA Titles, you played at most 30 games. There were a possibility of 40 games played if you won Conference/NCAA Title by the time Dean Smith retired. Both won Conference Tournaments 13 times. Adolph won Regular Season Conference Championships 27 times, 1 from the previous years in the SoCon, compared to Dean's 17 ACC. Won Coach of the year 5 to Dean's 4.
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Dean Smith compared to adolf Rupp is ridiculous. He's nowhere near that level. And since UNC fans love claiming 7 titles, Rupp actually won 5 himself. Comparing Rupp to Dean is weak. Comparing Rupp to the entire UNC program is a closer comparison.
Not to mention Dean Smith almost ruined the college game with his crap 4 corners BS. Rupps style revolutionized the game the way it was meant to be played. Deans Style died with him. That in itself speaks volumes about their individual mark on the game today and who was the superior basketball mind
Not to mention Dean Smith almost ruined the college game with his crap 4 corners BS. Rupps style revolutionized the game the way it was meant to be played. Deans Style died with him. That in itself speaks volumes about their individual mark on the game today and who was the superior basketball mind
The comeback was, "How's Rashad McCants doing these days? Being a Dean's List scholar from Chapel Hill I expect he's moved on to brain surgery or building rockets to mars. Imagine being smart enough to get all As at UNC without ever going to a single class! Did you do that well?"
Adolf Rupp also had the highest overall winning percentage. GO CATS!!
That '93 UNC title is stained. 3 starters on that team majored in AFAM, the other 2 majored in Communications with minors in AFAM.
Also, Rupp's win percentage was 82% compared to Smith's 77%.
Also, Rupp's win percentage was 82% compared to Smith's 77%.
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Or perhaps, even though thi's may not be popular, you could explain to him that without the presence of John Higgins, Cal would probably have 3 moreally titles, including and Roy would have one less! (2011, 2015, and 2017).
Man, that''s a lot of damage caused by one jack wagon!
Man, that''s a lot of damage caused by one jack wagon!
Yeah, two obvious comebacks:
1. Dean recruited like Cal, but his guys all stayed 4 years (a very few left after 3). He had juniors and seniors, and didn't start over every year.
2. It took Dean 22 years to win a title, took Cal 3.
1. Dean recruited like Cal, but his guys all stayed 4 years (a very few left after 3). He had juniors and seniors, and didn't start over every year.
2. It took Dean 22 years to win a title, took Cal 3.
The two titles Smith won both had bone headed plays. Fred Brown from GTown who passed the ball to James Worthy. Then Chris Webber calling a TO the team didn't have.
Dean's players had two games given to him! Brown of Georgetown's unfortunate pass to UNC's James Worthy. Michigan's dope head Chris Webber calling for a time out and they didn't have one. Giving UNC technical foul shots.
If not for the Fred Brown brain fart, John Thompson would actually have more titles than Dean Smith.
I would have also added that Smith had the benefit of having players that were not even eligible to be playing. Also practice time in the 90's was almost unlimited.
