I saw on the UL board that they (some third party) has an NIL fund where fans can contribute $10-20 a month. This is something that I would gladly do, and I'm sure others would too. Does anyone have any idea who is spearheading these efforts for UK and what we can do to help?
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If Barnhart doesn’t get out of the way he will have to be removed. It’s as simple as that and it will happen. I think he’s close to retiring anyway.
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Here’s a link to a directory of NIL collectives across the country.
They’re in alphabetical order by school, so just scroll down till you get to UK.
NIL Collectives | On3.com
A list of NIL collectives. A school-specific NIL Collective is typically made up of deep-pocketed fans and alumni.
The recruiting class is currently ranked 45th in the nation going into November. That uh, ain’t good
He also gives out terrible contracts that make zero financial sense for UK.
Not gonna happen though! We can only hope he feels like an old man sitting on his front porch yelling at speeding cars and leaves on his own.
What part of NIL is Barnhart blocking? I thought Will Levis and Massai Russell from track were two of the highest paid athletes through NIL.
Will is the only UK football player in the top 100 for NIL valuations on ON3. Tennessee has several. We need a local collective to be pushed. Why else do you think Stoops was almost begging earlier this year. We are falling behind and it shows.
Also, from what I understand , he is not letting NIL be used to entice recruits. He believes the NIL is supposed to be used for players currently in the program. And it MAY be , but lots of other schools aren’t abiding by that .
Yes, good old Tennessee state law even allows the school to introduce recruits to NIL collectives and fundraise for the collectives. That is where the bar is now set. We either follow suit or get left behind. Mitch doesn't like that. It's a problem for us that will likely only get worse. Mitch is a man of conscience so I don't expect him to change his mind in any way. We'll either have to work around him or replace him.
I hate to even say it but this NIL thing has the potential to wash away everything Mark Stoops has built. Even if Mitch allows it to be used like some other schools use it , I don’t think we’ll be able to match the funding of the majority of sec teams .
I wouldn’t say buying but allow collectives to decide what a players worth is.
Here’s what some other programs are doing. You are not allowed to promise a player NIL money in recruiting , that is buying players . But they are skirting the rule by saying “we have $100,000 available for the next (whatever position the kid plays) ie. “running back “ to commit. Mitch doesn’t allow this . He believes nil money is only to go to players currently in the program. And it PROBABLY should be . But others aren’t playing by those rules.
Some may want to read this.
www.on3.com
NCAA releases updated NIL guidance aimed at institutions
The NCAA Division I Board of Directors has released updated guidance related to what role member institutions are allowed to play in NIL.
Ok so eff Mitch. What's to stop a private collective from forming?
Why can't a business be started where it's only purpose was "fundraising for local athletes". Said business would be the unofficial fan spot to donate to "local athletics" can contact any high-school athlete that they may catch the name of and offer them a contract based on them relocating to the city of Lexington?
Hell we need more than that. Someone well known needs to run for office in Kentucky with their campaign promise to make it state law to make us the most attractive state for college athletes.
Why can't a business be started where it's only purpose was "fundraising for local athletes". Said business would be the unofficial fan spot to donate to "local athletics" can contact any high-school athlete that they may catch the name of and offer them a contract based on them relocating to the city of Lexington?
Hell we need more than that. Someone well known needs to run for office in Kentucky with their campaign promise to make it state law to make us the most attractive state for college athletes.
Some may want to read this.
NCAA releases updated NIL guidance aimed at institutions
The NCAA Division I Board of Directors has released updated guidance related to what role member institutions are allowed to play in NIL.
Just says more of what we knew with one additional nugget: the NCAA has no intention of requesting documentation regarding nil deals. So that means nothing they say has any teeth whatsoever because they have no intention of even looking at contracts.
Want to make payment contingent on attending a school? Performance incentives? All good. Basically anything can be in there from a compliance standpoint because the NCAA says they won't even bother to request or review any contracts.
Basically the only thing you can't do is have a school contribute to an nil collective directly or directly pay a player.
If this is the case why the hell does UK still have it's clunky aoc review process that can take up to 14 days along with a host of other prohibitions? UKs entire approach to this is asinine and indicative of leadership. It's amazing it hasn't hurt us more than it has
NCAA provides updated NIL rules guidance to member schools
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There is now no hindrance to NIL collectives, but there remains in place the restrictions against using NIL as an inducement in recruiting and coaches being involved in directing money or offers of money to certain athletes . There is also, still, the restriction against offering NIL money to a player if they play for X institution. Either they are licensing NIL regardless of where the player goes, or they are offering a "pay for play" contract/inducement.
From what I can see Barnhart is not holding anything back except overzealous boosters that want to be recruiters for the school. Unfortunately for them, it still isn't allowed.
Now, we all know this "ruling" by the nCaa is just stalling and subterfuge. They said nothing much of anything after MONTHS OF ZERO CLARITY and a flat refusal to address any of what is going on at UT, A&M, Bama, Texas, etc. A great big nothingburger. It says essentially that THE NCAA has a severe AND PURPOSEFULLY negligent LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL.
They're just waiting for a sacrificial scapegoat to raise its head up and do what the big programs are doing so they have someone to symbolically punish. This is NO DIFFERENT than it was back when Bama and UT were in bidding wars for players like Albert Means and UK got hammered for around $225 in money orders and gloves. If you haven't learned that lesson yet, there's not much hope for you.
The collectives are raising money and preparing for the future, but I think they're all so focused on being attached to the big stars that they are shooting themselves in the foot for future success with what remains a TEAM game. Paying your QB big $ while the linemen that protect him aren't seeing any substantial incentives is a recipe for disaster. The floodgates are now open people, and most have no idea what's coming because of it.
NCAA provides updated NIL guidance to schools
The NCAA's Division I board of directors approved on Wednesday new guidance to members on NIL activities, clarifying how schools, coaches and staffers can be involved with athletes' endorsement and sponsorship deals.
There is now no hindrance to NIL collectives, but there remains in place the restrictions against using NIL as an inducement in recruiting and coaches being involved in directing money or offers of money to certain athletes . There is also, still, the restriction against offering NIL money to a player if they play for X institution. Either they are licensing NIL regardless of where the player goes, or they are offering a "pay for play" contract/inducement.
From what I can see Barnhart is not holding anything back except overzealous boosters that want to be recruiters for the school. Unfortunately for them, it still isn't allowed.
Now, we all know this "ruling" by the nCaa is just stalling and subterfuge. They said nothing much of anything after MONTHS OF ZERO CLARITY and a flat refusal to address any of what is going on at UT, A&M, Bama, Texas, etc. A great big nothingburger. It says essentially that THE NCAA has a severe AND PURPOSEFULLY negligent LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL.
They're just waiting for a sacrificial scapegoat to raise its head up and do what the big programs are doing so they have someone to symbolically punish. This is NO DIFFERENT than it was back when Bama and UT were in bidding wars for players like Albert Means and UK got hammered for around $225 in money orders and gloves. If you haven't learned that lesson yet, there's not much hope for you.
The collectives are raising money and preparing for the future, but I think they're all so focused on being attached to the big stars that they are shooting themselves in the foot for future success with what remains a TEAM game. Paying your QB big $ while the linemen that protect him aren't seeing any substantial incentives is a recipe for disaster. The floodgates are now open people, and most have no idea what's coming because of it.
I agree with you 100%NCAA provides updated NIL rules guidance to member schools
NCAA provides updated NIL guidance to schools
The NCAA's Division I board of directors approved on Wednesday new guidance to members on NIL activities, clarifying how schools, coaches and staffers can be involved with athletes' endorsement and sponsorship deals.
There is now no hindrance to NIL collectives, but there remains in place the restrictions against using NIL as an inducement in recruiting and coaches being involved in directing money or offers of money to certain athletes . There is also, still, the restriction against offering NIL money to a player if they play for X institution. Either they are licensing NIL regardless of where the player goes, or they are offering a "pay for play" contract/inducement.
From what I can see Barnhart is not holding anything back except overzealous boosters that want to be recruiters for the school. Unfortunately for them, it still isn't allowed.
Now, we all know this "ruling" by the nCaa is just stalling and subterfuge. They said nothing much of anything after MONTHS OF ZERO CLARITY and a flat refusal to address any of what is going on at UT, A&M, Bama, Texas, etc. A great big nothingburger. It says essentially that THE NCAA has a severe AND PURPOSEFULLY negligent LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL.
They're just waiting for a sacrificial scapegoat to raise its head up and do what the big programs are doing so they have someone to symbolically punish. This is NO DIFFERENT than it was back when Bama and UT were in bidding wars for players like Albert Means and UK got hammered for around $225 in money orders and gloves. If you haven't learned that lesson yet, there's not much hope for you.
The collectives are raising money and preparing for the future, but I think they're all so focused on being attached to the big stars that they are shooting themselves in the foot for future success with what remains a TEAM game. Paying your QB big $ while the linemen that protect him aren't seeing any substantial incentives is a recipe for disaster. The floodgates are now open people, and most have no idea what's coming because of it.
Allegedly some UK boosters were going to start one. But Barnhart sent a message privately - any individual who did this would be disassociated from UK athletics in every way possible. including businesses the person owns or works for, and the family of the offender. No more season tix, lux box taken away, banned from all games,, no advertising, no using the business for any athletic spending.
So,
So, does that mean that "friends of UK" have not established any sort of NIL collective?
From the article:
Meanwhile, collective operators across the country continue to tell On3 that the NIL landscape is well past the stage where additional guidance will help.
Meanwhile, collective operators across the country continue to tell On3 that the NIL landscape is well past the stage where additional guidance will help.
Only NIL stuff allowed at UK is to enrolled active athletes, and must actually do stuff to earn the money. Actual advertisements, or appearances have to happen.
Other schools can give cold hard cash to HS kids to get them to sign. And are not expected to do anything else but play sports at that school.
Other schools can give cold hard cash to HS kids to get them to sign. And are not expected to do anything else but play sports at that school.
Other schools can provide strippers and prostitutes who squirt to the ceiling to HS kids also.
Sorry, but this thread is about NIL and UK's currently noncompetitive implementation thereof.
You may find the strippers, prostitutes, and squirting thread in The Paddock, but reference to those here as comparable to what other schools are doing with NIL is just a lame and nonconstructive deflection.
Yeah, other schools openly cheating and violating the rules has no comparison. Get real.
So, you're just going to keep changing your name and coming back to stir shyt huh?
Are you ready to divulge your association with the UK athletic dept and/or Barnhart? Many of us are still waiting on that.
If this is true then hopefully those same boosters will begin actively campaigning to remove Barnfart.
When you're the only program not cheating it isn't virtuous, it's moronic.
So you just gonna keep lying and say UK doesn't support NIL? Typical fraud. Ask them about their false claims and they can't even come up with a coherent lie to defend it.
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In comparison to other athletic programs UK lags behind. Levis doesn’t need a promoter as he is a star in his own right. It’s the other lesser known football athletes who Barnhart ignores. Other programs have collectives which the athletic director promotes, not so at UK. Stoops has said, UK during a TV interview, that UK fans are not doing enough. However, Barnhart is not pushing a collective.
I doubt this is true. It is against NCAA rules for a school to get in the middle of NIL transactions. That's not to say some schools aren't cheating and actively trying to hook up athletes with NIL deals, but they would be in the minority, not the majority.
The difference is, schools who have boosters with money aren't handcuffing & discouraging NIL the way UK & Barnhart allegedly are. Some schools who operated as win-at-all-costs in the past are using the same attitude with NIL.
Mitch thinks he is going to get a trophy, an achievement award for operating not to win, but by following the rules AS INTENDED. When the NIL rules aren't uniform or restricting, and there ain't even any damn punishments! Hell fire, the ncaa police have been defunded and disarmed.
Mitch thinks he is going to get a trophy, an achievement award for operating not to win, but by following the rules AS INTENDED. When the NIL rules aren't uniform or restricting, and there ain't even any damn punishments! Hell fire, the ncaa police have been defunded and disarmed.
OK, this thread has veered off the tracks. I wasn't trying to start a war between Barnhart backers and Barnhart haters.
Here is what I know. UT has Spire, a gold standard Collective that is funneling a shitload of money to UT's NIL efforts. It's also clear that UT's admin does NOT directly promote what spire is doing. Danny White and NONE of UT's coaches EVER directly publicly promote spire and NIL dollars coming from there. This is indisputable (read Basilio's blog, where they regularly criticize UT's admin for distancing itself from NIL).
So, given that UT has a very successful NIL program but their admin does not promote it, the only difference between the two schools is that UK's admin does not promote NIL AND UK does NOT have a successful NIL program. Is this b/c UT has more big money boosters willing to contribute? Are UK's booster efforts more geared toward roundball? Why is one school flourishing with NIL while the other is not?
Not looking for a pillow fight between bickering posters, I'm honestly trying to get to the bottom of what we can do as a fanbase to ensure that our football program has maximum support.
Here is what I know. UT has Spire, a gold standard Collective that is funneling a shitload of money to UT's NIL efforts. It's also clear that UT's admin does NOT directly promote what spire is doing. Danny White and NONE of UT's coaches EVER directly publicly promote spire and NIL dollars coming from there. This is indisputable (read Basilio's blog, where they regularly criticize UT's admin for distancing itself from NIL).
So, given that UT has a very successful NIL program but their admin does not promote it, the only difference between the two schools is that UK's admin does not promote NIL AND UK does NOT have a successful NIL program. Is this b/c UT has more big money boosters willing to contribute? Are UK's booster efforts more geared toward roundball? Why is one school flourishing with NIL while the other is not?
Not looking for a pillow fight between bickering posters, I'm honestly trying to get to the bottom of what we can do as a fanbase to ensure that our football program has maximum support.
