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UK needs to win out and get a 2 seed

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I thought a 1 was still possible, believe it or not, until the A&M loss (or whatever you want to call it).

Now I think a 2 seed is still possible, and hope our guys work hard to get it. It just puts us in a more favorable spot in the bracket. Being a 2, you just have to beat a 3 seed (9-12 type talent) in order to advance to the regional final, whereas being a 3 means you have to beat a 2 seed (5-8 type talent) and a 1 seed potentially in order to make the Final Four.

I think a healthy Willis, a Poythress like we saw last night, and rebound and defensive minded Lee and Humphries give us exactly the recipe we need to make life hard on ANY opponent.
 
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3 seed is most likely if UK wins out (maybe with 1 more loss, if UK wins the SEC Tourney), and honestly, I don't think seeding means all that much this year. There are some good matchups for UK, some bad, but those aren't necessarily going to fall along seed lines.
 
3 seed is most likely if UK wins out (maybe with 1 more loss, if UK wins the SEC Tourney), and honestly, I don't think seeding means all that much this year. There are some good matchups for UK, some bad, but those aren't necessarily going to fall along seed lines.
3 in the South is all UK needs!
 
at the beginning of the season , I thought that our front line would be a liability. But, with the development of Willis and Humphries, and Poythress' return to form, I am beginning to believe that our front line can compete with anyone out there. A 2 seed would be nice, but this year I expect to see more "upsets" than ever before. Parity has never been greater in CBB.
 
Even if we win our last 3 games and then win the SEC Tournament, a 2 seed will still be hard to achieve. We would need a lot of upsets by teams ahead of us between now and Selection Sunday in order for that to happen. A 3 seed is very attainable though.
 
People forget a lot of these top teams still have some losses left. Look at UNC for instance. They still play on the road against NC State, Virginia and Duke.

We win out and we'll knocking on the door for a 2. I'm not scared of any of the 1-seeds but would rather avoid them until the E8 (if they make it there).
 
Winning out would be difficult, having to go to Vandy and FL will be tough. I think we're in the Louisville region no matter what. NCAA wants well attended games.
 
We probably have a lower chance to end up in Louisville as a 2 than as a 3. 2s are supposed to go by S-curve this year, 3s by geography.
 
Winning out would be difficult, having to go to Vandy and FL will be tough. I think we're in the Louisville region no matter what. NCAA wants well attended games.
If UK is a 5 or lower they could go anywhere because they would not be presumed to even make it to Louisville. Honestly UK's best shot at Louisville is a 2/3 or a 5 seed or lower. I don't think they get sent to the South as a 4 because that be unfair to the 1 seed unless it was Xavier which would be a dream draw.
 
Some things can increase it.......like if Kansas and OU are 1 seeds (and lets say not the last 1).........they will go South and Midwest meaning if we were ever on the same line as say WVU, that would increase our odds since they wouldn't be able to go South.

But this is why regionals are just impossible to predict. You don't even have to slide down a seed line........just one team sliding down one spot can have a tremendous effect.
 
If UK is a 5 or lower they could go anywhere because they would not be presumed to even make it to Louisville. Honestly UK's best shot at Louisville is a 2/3 or a 5 seed or lower. I don't think they get sent to the South as a 4 because that be unfair to the 1 seed unless it was Xavier which would be a dream draw.

Maybe the case but they have stated for years now they only protect the higher seeded teams in the first round only.
 
People forget a lot of these top teams still have some losses left. Look at UNC for instance. They still play on the road against NC State, Virginia and Duke.

We win out and we'll knocking on the door for a 2. I'm not scared of any of the 1-seeds but would rather avoid them until the E8 (if they make it there).

I'm an idiot for even entertaining the possibility (given how State bends over for UNC) however, if Cat Barber has a great game and State is nailing the 3-ball, they could give the Heels fits tonight over in Raleigh. It's not likely though but crazier things have happened.
 
The rule about the 2 seed annoys me tho we'll see if they truely do that.

So you mean to say if UK is the best #2, they can't go South because they wanna balance the bracket however if they are the best #3 seed, they can?

Does that make any sense to anyone? lol

I really do not care about the 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5 thing........especially this season when there isn't much difference between teams.

How often do you even end up with a 1 vs 2 seed regional final anyways? lol
 
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FWIW I am seeing alot of brackets with us as 4 seeds and ending up in the South.

If we are healthy and playing like we can, and end up a 4 seed, it may end up being the strongest group of teams in recent history.
That's why I think we win out, we get a 2 seed. Other teams are gonna lose and fall closer to us or even under us.

We just need to take care of our own business. Other teams are gonna falter. They have to. Everybody isn't gonna win out.
 
Maybe the case but they have stated for years now they only protect the higher seeded teams in the first round only.
I hope the NCAA treats it that way! My gut tells me UK would not get that advantage if a 4. Just win out and it won't be an issue lol.
 
I like the way these guys are playing. If we get Willis healthy again then I believe we can make a deep run despite where they put us in the bracket. few teams will want to face our backcourt.
 
I hope the NCAA treats it that way! My gut tells me UK would not get that advantage if a 4. Just win out and it won't be an issue lol.

Thing is that won't really matter. Say UK wins out, becomes a 2 seed. There's still a very strong chance we aren't in the South. Especially with the new rule implemented this year where they really want to avoid having the best 1s and 2s in the same region.

We could essentially be the 5th best team overall (best 2 seed) and not go South.
 
The rule about the 2 seed annoys me tho we'll see if they truely do that.

So you mean to say if UK is the best #2, they can't go South because they wanna balance the bracket however if they are the best #3 seed, they can?

Does that make any sense to anyone? lol

I really do not care about the 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5 thing........especially this season when there isn't much difference between teams.

How often do you even end up with a 1 vs 2 seed regional final anyways? lol
Last 6 years- 7 times out of a possible 24. And there have also been three 1 vs 3 matchups.
 
I thought a 1 was still possible, believe it or not, until the A&M loss (or whatever you want to call it).

Now I think a 2 seed is still possible, and hope our guys work hard to get it. It just puts us in a more favorable spot in the bracket. Being a 2, you just have to beat a 3 seed (9-12 type talent) in order to advance to the regional final, whereas being a 3 means you have to beat a 2 seed (5-8 type talent) and a 1 seed potentially in order to make the Final Four.

I think a healthy Willis, a Poythress like we saw last night, and rebound and defensive minded Lee and Humphries give us exactly the recipe we need to make life hard on ANY opponent.
Winning out sounds good and I hope we do. However, I am leary of the Vandy and Florida games. Both will bring their "A" game and if the refs are whistle happy it's going to be a tough task. If we go in and play like we did at S.C. then the way the game is called won't necessarily affect the outcome. Got to hope that Lee and POY bring their "A" games too.
 
I thought a 1 was still possible, believe it or not, until the A&M loss (or whatever you want to call it).

Now I think a 2 seed is still possible, and hope our guys work hard to get it. It just puts us in a more favorable spot in the bracket. Being a 2, you just have to beat a 3 seed (9-12 type talent) in order to advance to the regional final, whereas being a 3 means you have to beat a 2 seed (5-8 type talent) and a 1 seed potentially in order to make the Final Four.

I think a healthy Willis, a Poythress like we saw last night, and rebound and defensive minded Lee and Humphries give us exactly the recipe we need to make life hard on ANY opponent.
They better bring their "A'" games to Vandy and Florida. If we don't and we have another sixth man ref crew then we're in trouble. Play like we did last night and at S.C. we win both.
 
The rule about the 2 seed annoys me tho we'll see if they truely do that.

So you mean to say if UK is the best #2, they can't go South because they wanna balance the bracket however if they are the best #3 seed, they can?

Does that make any sense to anyone? lol

I really do not care about the 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5 thing........especially this season when there isn't much difference between teams.

How often do you even end up with a 1 vs 2 seed regional final anyways? lol

I was thinking the same. Lets say UK is a clear-cut #2 seed, with a chance of going out West. It might be better to rest the team and take a loss, to drop 1 seed level and stay at home for two games. It's not like the 3 seed has to play the 1 first. The 2's and 3's matchup, so if you throw a game and swap the two (in theory), what does it matter, aside from *slightly* harder opening weekend games.

Granted, it's still so unpredictable and no coach/school would ever do this.. But then again, why not? IF, they place teams like that, then essentially a #3 seed is better than a #2 seed.
 
I was thinking the same. Lets say UK is a clear-cut #2 seed, with a chance of going out West. It might be better to rest the team and take a loss, to drop 1 seed level and stay at home for two games. It's not like the 3 seed has to play the 1 first. The 2's and 3's matchup, so if you throw a game and swap the two (in theory), what does it matter, aside from *slightly* harder opening weekend games.

Granted, it's still so unpredictable and no coach/school would ever do this.. But then again, why not? IF, they place teams like that, then essentially a #3 seed is better than a #2 seed.

You know there was some talk about thing I forget where but the reason why coaches would never do this is because say we are the weakest 2 and gonna be sent out West, say we drop a game because we want to move down a seed.......well who's to say we are only gonna drop one spot? We might drop four spots and end up in the same region as the weakest 3.

Plus if you do that your also risking being sent to an opening weekend site that's further than what you'd be if your a 2 seed.
 
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Oh yeah, obviously too risky and too many factors at play. But you should never punish a supposedly better team.

I don't know how to fix it, but it should be remedied ASAP. You can't have that big of a hiccup in the seeding to the point that being a #3 is better than a #2 seed.
 
Can't see a 2 seed, even if we win out...none of those wins are really any good for much advancement in seeds....
 
Everyone feels that the SEC is weak so I wouldn't get excited about a #2 or even #3 seed.
 
Iowa
Xavier
Villanova
Oklahoma
Virginia

These are all 1 or 2 seeds right now in bracketology. Its really a down overall year and up for grabs. Kentucky has as good a shot as anyone.

What could happen:
Villanova = Philly region
Oklahoma = Anaheim region
Kansas = Chicago region
Virginia or North Carolina = Louisville region 2-xavier, 3-Kentucky

What if we are a 4 seed, and Indiana is a 5, we could be playing them in the 2nd round
 
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