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UK basketball: NBA draft/transfer decision tracker

Not sure why Humphries would leave coming off his best game at Kentucky.
I think Briscoe has hit his ceiling here. He is such a "tweener"... not skilled enough to play PG in the league & to small & medioce a shooter to play the two. He will have a nice career over seas & is ready to leave school & play for pay it seems.
 
Has Fox, Monk, Adebayo, Briscoe and Humphries all gone. If so, next year is going to be a major question mark.

Buy yay, Tai Wynyard is coming back!

Yeah, next year could be kinda rough as we could be about the youngest we've ever been and lacking any good experience at all. Add Bamba and Knox we could be pretty good yet but still very young and no experienced leadership to speak of. I know some on here have high hopes for next year but we better also be prepared to not get our hopes up too high, just in case. We still have to wait and see how all things shake out before guessing, really, what type of team and season we will have next year.
 
Some of you need to just relax about the dooms day next year predictions. If UK gets Bamba they will go

6'1
6'6
6'8
6'8
7'0

in the starting lineup. It will be athletic and long and teams will have fits trying to put the ball in the basket. UK will be a elite defensive team and will have to hit jump shots to beat them.
 
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It's really hard to win an NCAA title after losing 9 scholarship players and without an extremely special class.

I'm never worried about the talent coming in. It's the supplement parts that have made a difference in the UK teams who have been very good/great.

It's a pipe dream, but just getting Briscoe, Gabriel, Humphries and SKJ back, along with 5 or 6 very good recruits, I'll take that.
 
Some of you need to just relax about the dooms day next year predictions. If UK gets Bamba they will go

6'1
6'6
6'8
6'8
7'0

in the starting lineup. It will be athletic and long and teams will have fits trying to put the ball in the basket. UK will be a elite defensive team and will have to hit jump shots to beat them.
We are that size whether Bamba comes or not. Richards is 6"11.
 
Not sure why Humphries would leave coming off his best game at Kentucky.
I think Briscoe has hit his ceiling here. He is such a "tweener"... not skilled enough to play PG in the league & to small & medioce a shooter to play the two. He will have a nice career over seas & is ready to leave school & play for pay it seems.
"That part about repetition in games...."

According to the writer and I totally agree. Same reason Matthews left, same reason Willis and Hawkins probably should have left. You learn through "repetition in games and Cal obviously agrees with this, but only if you're a 5-star projected lottery pick or your name is Briscoe. At the end of the year, Hawkins was a much better player than Briscoe; imagine if he had been given 1/3 of the minutes that Briscoe was getting during his sophomore and junior years. He would have easily been UK's version of Frank Mason. Matthews would have been a star by this junior year. And Humphries certainly would have been a force next year. None of the incoming bigs has the size and strength of Humphries. If Humphries had been given the opportunity to develop, imagine him, Bam and Willis on the front line during the UCLA game. But no, we needed Briscoe in a 3-guard line-up with one shooter I guess.
 
It's really hard to win an NCAA title after losing 9 scholarship players and without an extremely special class.

I'm never worried about the talent coming in. It's the supplement parts that have made a difference in the UK teams who have been very good/great.

It's a pipe dream, but just getting Briscoe, Gabriel, Humphries and SKJ back, along with 5 or 6 very good recruits, I'll take that.
Briscoe ain't coming back . He will make the NBA but he will be an NBADLer for while before hand. The rest should be back. HUmp ain't going no where as he is a borderline 2nd rounder and would be a lock to be drafted if he came back . Gabriel won't leave if he wants to be drafted . We are going to add maybe our best overall class top to bottom and that includes Bamba and another guard like Smith but it wont include Knox since Gabriel will be back and that is a good thing as it is better to have some experience then just one more talented freshman. A line up of

Green
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Washington
Bamba

with Alexander,A guard like Smith , Gabriel , Hump , Richards coming off the bench and that is a top 3ish team .
 
Briscoe ain't coming back . He will make the NBA but he will be an NBADLer for while before hand. The rest should be back. HUmp ain't going no where as he is a borderline 2nd rounder and would be a lock to be drafted if he came back . Gabriel won't leave if he wants to be drafted . We are going to add maybe our best overall class top to bottom and that includes Bamba and another guard like Smith but it wont include Knox since Gabriel will be back and that is a good thing as it is better to have some experience then just one more talented freshman. A line up of

Green
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Washington
Bamba

with Alexander,A guard like Smith , Gabriel , Hump , Richards coming off the bench and that is a top 3ish team .
You're thinking about the wrong kind of leaving with Hump. He is considering a transfer. I'm sure his heart wants to stay here but it may not make any business sense to do so.
 
Yeah I don't think Hump is thinking draft. He's thinking about going somewhere that will feature a big man with his skill set. Is it strange to think he would be a good fit somewhere like Gonzaga?
 
Would not be surprised to see Hump make it to the NBA this year. Some of the scouts liked his play last year when Cal had all the scouts there to watch the players. Some said he was the 3rd best player on the team. Or maybe this was 2 years ago.
A big 7ft guy who can shoot can make it in the NBA.
 
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Yeah I don't think Hump is thinking draft. He's thinking about going somewhere that will feature a big man with his skill set. Is it strange to think he would be a good fit somewhere like Gonzaga?


What about Saint Mary's? I'm pretty sure the majority of their players are from Australia. But yeah, I could see Gonzaga as well. I hope he stays here but sounds more and more like he is leaving.
 
"That part about repetition in games...."

According to the writer and I totally agree. Same reason Matthews left, same reason Willis and Hawkins probably should have left. You learn through "repetition in games and Cal obviously agrees with this, but only if you're a 5-star projected lottery pick or your name is Briscoe. At the end of the year, Hawkins was a much better player than Briscoe; imagine if he had been given 1/3 of the minutes that Briscoe was getting during his sophomore and junior years. He would have easily been UK's version of Frank Mason. Matthews would have been a star by this junior year. And Humphries certainly would have been a force next year. None of the incoming bigs has the size and strength of Humphries. If Humphries had been given the opportunity to develop, imagine him, Bam and Willis on the front line during the UCLA game. But no, we needed Briscoe in a 3-guard line-up with one shooter I guess.
Hawks sophomore year u had twins, booker and ulis. No pt. He maybe should have got more last year but his shooting was awful up until end of this season.
 
At the end of the year, Hawkins was a much better player than Briscoe; imagine if he had been given 1/3 of the minutes that Briscoe was getting during his sophomore and junior years. He would have easily been UK's version of Frank Mason. Matthews would have been a star by this junior year. And Humphries certainly would have been a force next year. None of the incoming bigs has the size and strength of Humphries. If Humphries had been given the opportunity to develop, imagine him, Bam and Willis on the front line during the UCLA game. But no, we needed Briscoe in a 3-guard line-up with one shooter I guess.

most of this is wrong

always liked hawkins, but for his career, he was a worse shooter than briscoe. good defender, but not as good as briscoe guarding 2s and 3s. and though hawk's remarkably low turnover rate is commendable, he was never anywhere near the driver briscoe is

hump is very young and still developing, but when he came here he did the least bench reps of anyone on the team
 
Would not be surprised to see Hump make it to the NBA this year. Some of the scouts liked his play last year when Cal had all the scouts there to watch the players. Some said he was the 3rd best player on the team. Or maybe this was 2 years ago.
A big 7ft guy who can shoot can make it in the NBA.

one thing i've learned from the stat geeks who track nba prospects is that age, relative to peers, is the #1 indicator for future pro success

there are kids who will be freshmen next year who are only weeks or months younger than hump

he does not have long arms and will never be much of a shot blocker, but he's been a good rebounder from day one, and moves his feet pretty well
 
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Would not be surprised to see Hump make it to the NBA this year. Some of the scouts liked his play last year when Cal had all the scouts there to watch the players. Some said he was the 3rd best player on the team. Or maybe this was 2 years ago.
A big 7ft guy who can shoot can make it in the NBA.

Is this a real post?

Hump in the NBA this year? Really????
 
"That part about repetition in games...."

According to the writer and I totally agree. Same reason Matthews left, same reason Willis and Hawkins probably should have left. You learn through "repetition in games and Cal obviously agrees with this, but only if you're a 5-star projected lottery pick or your name is Briscoe. At the end of the year, Hawkins was a much better player than Briscoe; imagine if he had been given 1/3 of the minutes that Briscoe was getting during his sophomore and junior years. He would have easily been UK's version of Frank Mason. Matthews would have been a star by this junior year. And Humphries certainly would have been a force next year. None of the incoming bigs has the size and strength of Humphries. If Humphries had been given the opportunity to develop, imagine him, Bam and Willis on the front line during the UCLA game. But no, we needed Briscoe in a 3-guard line-up with one shooter I guess.

You lost me the moment you said Hawkins could have "easily" been UK's version of Frank Mason, if only he had more playing time.

An outlandishly bizarre take and I'd love for you to break down your reasons for comparing their skill sets.
 
I'm not so concerned about Humphries.

If Cal believes he can be a major factor, like Harrelson or Cauley-Stein as an upperclassman, he will convince him as such and give him the chance. If not, Cal will give his blessing on transferring. If Humphries leaves, it's because he believes he won't get that chance at UK with the incoming players, and if that's the case, Cal will let him walk.

Bam is the one guy Cal needs to sit down with him and his family and give him the talk. He's a guy who if given the reigns, can put himself into the top 5 next year if he develops. Now if he was already in the lottery now, then so be it, no reason to even try. However, consensus seems to have Bam outside the lottery and even outside the top 20.
 
No returning contributors = no shot at national title. Has never happened in history of NCAA basketball and won't happen next year.

Talented and successful team for sure, but not title winning caliber, IMO.

Cool. Does that mean I get to read your posts reminding us we don't have a real shot at the title for the next 11 months?
 
bam's p n r defense was vastly improved by the end of the year, his rebounding improved, and his jumpshot seems reasonably likely to develop

i know it's not the nfl draft, but he also seems like an off-the-charts great kid and hard worker, and that should help him

by june i think he'll be projected in the teens somewhere
 
Not sure why Humphries would leave coming off his best game at Kentucky.
I think Briscoe has hit his ceiling here. He is such a "tweener"... not skilled enough to play PG in the league & to small & medioce a shooter to play the two. He will have a nice career over seas & is ready to leave school & play for pay it seems.

Because he rotted on the bench all year...he doesnt want to do that again...kids want to play
 
No reason to attack.

I'm an optimist as Cal hasn't really ever let us down. However, it's not unfair to be a bit pessimistic if this team loses...

Mulder
Willis
Hawkins
Fox
Monk
Adebayo
Briscoe
Gabriel
Humphries

I'm sorry, not even John Calipari is going to win a national title losing that. And that's what UK is going for every year...a national title.
 
No returning contributors = no shot at national title. Has never happened in history of NCAA basketball and won't happen next year.

Talented and successful team for sure, but not title winning caliber, IMO.

Coach Cal's response to you....hold my beer, I got this.
 
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Cool. Does that mean I get to read your posts reminding us we don't have a real shot at the title for the next 11 months?

Not really a fair comment IMO. I don't analyze most of the posters (there are some of course) but he's right on this. If all of those guys leave we will still have a really good team that matures during the season just like all of Cal's teams do. But we won't be in the hunt for the NC. Nothing to be ashamed of but this is why you have a group of posters that don't like the OAD process. You simply have to have some veteran leadership regardless of whether they're stars or not.
 
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No returning contributors = no shot at national title. Has never happened in history of NCAA basketball and won't happen next year.

Talented and successful team for sure, but not title winning caliber, IMO.

A couple things here.

1. Define contributors. Seems like an arbitrary term.

2. How many teams have tried? I mean, no team loses 8-9 guys unless they get the death penalty or something. Saying it's never happened is like saying no team with Mo Bamba on it can win the title since it's never happened before.
 
I think we will hear something Wednesday of next week. FF will be over. Cal likes to give these kids the spotlight when there is nothing else going on.
Setting aside the 3 seniors, I think UK loses Fox, Monk, Bam, and Briscoe. Whew man that's a lot. All of the starters and guys off the bench. Cal is sure gonna earn his money next year.
With the possibility of a transfer, UK could feasibly have a whole new roster. That is crazy.
 
He got yanked everytime he made a mistake....cant play basketball that way...need freedom on the court

just a mistake? not rebounding, missing put backs, abused in pick and rolls and fouling in about a 2 minute stretch is not a "mistake". its a series of mistakes because for much the year...he just couldnt play.
 
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