UK #8 in new CBS top 25

[UKEE]

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaab/eye...higan-state-to-no-1-in-updated-top-25-and-one

Pretty big but somewhat expected drop. Time to get back to work, dig in and get this back on track.

 

[cacats]

That ranking is wired, how can Duke drops as they won this week?
Duke had one lose, but it was to us. We lost to a 4:3 UCLA. I feel we may be behind them.

 

[doneitall]

I can live with that ranking at present time.

 

[true blue1]

That's good I was hoping to be ranked number 9! Season ends we will get number 9 baby!

 

[GOING FOR #9]

Meaningless poll UK is a 4-5 team right now and will be ff.

 

[SosaUK]

I would rather cruise into the tourny a top 2 or 3 seed. I dont want nothing to do with #1 seeds. Nope.

 

[MakinMusic]

I agree

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I wish they dropped us completely. There are several players on this team that need to grow a pair and play like their lives depend on it.

 

[ukfan79]

I would rather cruise into the tourny a top 2 or 3 seed. I dont want nothing to do with #1 seeds. Nope.

That's stupid. Explain your reasoning please.

We definitely want to play in the Louisville regional. And we likely won't get to unless we are a 1 seed.

 

[xtra12]

Sounds about right. This team needs time to gel.

 

[UKvisitor]

I would rather cruise into the tourny a top 2 or 3 seed. I dont want nothing to do with #1 seeds. Nope.

4 the curious: take the seeding #'s times 4 for the ranking. (that will confuse some)

Farthest Seeds Have Advanced in the Tournament
Seed Round Teams (Year)
No. 1 Champion Arkansas (1994), Connecticut (1999), Duke (1992, 2001, 2010), Florida (2007), Georgetown (1984), Indiana (1987), Kansas (2008), Kentucky (1996, 2012), Maryland (2002), Michigan St. (2000), North Carolina (1982, 1993, 2005, 2009), UCLA (1995), UNLV (1990)
No. 2 Champion Connecticut (2004), Duke (1991), Kentucky (1998), Louisville (1980, 1986), Michigan St. (1979)
No. 3 Champion Connecticut (2011), Florida (2006), Indiana (1981), Michigan (1989), Syracuse (2003)
No. 4 Champion Arizona (1997)
No. 5 Title Game Butler (2010), Florida (2000), Indiana (2002)
No. 6 Champion Kansas (1988), North Carolina St. (1983)
No. 7 Final Four Virginia (1984)
No. 8 Champion Villanova (1985)
No. 9 Final Four Pennsylvania (1979)
No. 10 Regional Finals Davidson (2008), Dayton (1984), Gonzaga (1999), Kent St. (2002), LSU (1987), Providence (1997), St. John's (1979), Temple (1991), Texas (1990)
No. 11 Final Four George Mason (2006), LSU (1986), VCU (2011)
No. 12 Regional Finals Missouri (2002)
No. 13 Regional Semifinals Bradley (2006), Ohio (2012), Oklahoma (1999), Richmond (1988), Valparaiso (1998)
No. 14 Regional Semifinals Chattanooga (1997), Cleveland St. (1986)
No. 15 Round of 32 Coppin St. (1997), Hampton (2001), Lehigh (2012), Norfolk St. (2012), Richmond (1991), Santa Clara (1993)
No. 16 Round of 64 A No. 16 seed has never beaten a No. 1 seed.

 

[uk78]

Not being a top 4 seed would mean Kentucky would be shipped to another region.

 

[ukfan79]

4 the curious: take the seeding #'s times 4 for the ranking. (that will confuse some)

Farthest Seeds Have Advanced in the Tournament
Seed Round Teams (Year)
No. 1 Champion Arkansas (1994), Connecticut (1999), Duke (1992, 2001, 2010), Florida (2007), Georgetown (1984), Indiana (1987), Kansas (2008), Kentucky (1996, 2012), Maryland (2002), Michigan St. (2000), North Carolina (1982, 1993, 2005, 2009), UCLA (1995), UNLV (1990)
No. 2 Champion Connecticut (2004), Duke (1991), Kentucky (1998), Louisville (1980, 1986), Michigan St. (1979)
No. 3 Champion Connecticut (2011), Florida (2006), Indiana (1981), Michigan (1989), Syracuse (2003)
No. 4 Champion Arizona (1997)
No. 5 Title Game Butler (2010), Florida (2000), Indiana (2002)
No. 6 Champion Kansas (1988), North Carolina St. (1983)
No. 7 Final Four Virginia (1984)
No. 8 Champion Villanova (1985)
No. 9 Final Four Pennsylvania (1979)
No. 10 Regional Finals Davidson (2008), Dayton (1984), Gonzaga (1999), Kent St. (2002), LSU (1987), Providence (1997), St. John's (1979), Temple (1991), Texas (1990)
No. 11 Final Four George Mason (2006), LSU (1986), VCU (2011)
No. 12 Regional Finals Missouri (2002)
No. 13 Regional Semifinals Bradley (2006), Ohio (2012), Oklahoma (1999), Richmond (1988), Valparaiso (1998)
No. 14 Regional Semifinals Chattanooga (1997), Cleveland St. (1986)
No. 15 Round of 32 Coppin St. (1997), Hampton (2001), Lehigh (2012), Norfolk St. (2012), Richmond (1991), Santa Clara (1993)
No. 16 Round of 64 A No. 16 seed has never beaten a No. 1 seed.

Your stats here only appear to be through 2012. Louisville won as a 1 seed in 2013. UCONN as a 7 seed in 2014. Then Duke as a 1 seed in 2015.

So 22 #1 seeds cut down the nets. 6 #2 seeds. and 5 #3 seeds. Yeah you should want nothing to do with being one of those pesky #1 seeds that cut down the nets 60% of the time vs 2 seeds that do it 16% of the time and 3 seeds that do it 14%

Stupid notion by the poster who mentioned as I said above.

 

[UKvisitor]

Not being a top 4 seed would mean Kentucky would be shipped to another region.

Cal seems to use the OOC schedule to play like a NCAA tournament schedule (west coast games?): You could be shipped any where in the tourney.

 

[Uk1111]

No way we should drop that much esp after manhandlin Duke!!!! Nobody else ever drops like we do!

 

[yoshukai]

That's stupid. Explain your reasoning please.

We definitely want to play in the Louisville regional. And we likely won't get to unless we are a 1 seed.

Yep , the Louisville regional trumps everything .

 

[420grover]

No way we should drop that much esp after manhandlin Duke!!!! Nobody else ever drops like we do!

UNC dropped from 1 to 9.

 

[SosaUK]

That's stupid. Explain your reasoning please.

We definitely want to play in the Louisville regional. And we likely won't get to unless we are a 1 seed.

So you don't think we would be there without a 1 seed? Now that's what's I would call stupid.

 

[KWilt43atbuzz]

Its still so early that UK could be out of the top 25 right now and still work their way into a #1 seed in the Dance.

 

[billue]

1 say we go in at a 16 so we would be talked about every year from now on as being the only 16 to win it all.

 

[Jkwo]

Your stats here only appear to be through 2012. Louisville won as a 1 seed in 2013. UCONN as a 7 seed in 2014. Then Duke as a 1 seed in 2015.

So 22 #1 seeds cut down the nets. 6 #2 seeds. and 5 #3 seeds. Yeah you should want nothing to do with being one of those pesky #1 seeds that cut down the nets 60% of the time vs 2 seeds that do it 16% of the time and 3 seeds that do it 14%

Stupid notion by the poster who mentioned as I said above.

I agree that there's no reason to avoid a 1 seed at all.

But we need to look at the direction of the causality here.

The 2 and 1 seed paths are essentially identical - by far the most significant difference is that in one single game (E8), you're likely to face a top 4 opponent instead of a top 8 opponent. This can be a big deal if you've got a cluster at the very top who have distinguished themselves.

But I'd still argue that the faltering from the 2 seeds has more to do with the flaws in those teams demonstrated throughout the regular season which resulted in 2 seeds instead of 1 seeds.

IOW, a perfectly strong team shouldn't have any more problem fighting through a 2 seed's path than a 1 seed's path, but if we play down to a 2, then it may be the case that the issues that got us here won't have been resolved by March and could spell our doom.

 

[ukfan041]

About right! We lost to a mediocre UCLA who played out of their minds that night! We'll be fine! We're still a team with a chance to do damage in March!

 

[Primedfor9]

That's about where I'd rank them too. I do think we'll lose a few more games but will have as good a chance or better than any other team to make the final 4 and win the title.