Todd Grantham to LSU as DC?
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I personally hope he stays. I've seen what a "great" defense he has when he plays anybody that has an offense.
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I personally hope he stays. I've seen what a "great" defense he has when he plays anybody that has an offense.
UL hired this joker to a 3 yr/$1M per guaranteed contract last year, so LSU would have to do better than that. All for a guy who Georgia HATES with a passion, from every coach to every player to every fan, who's UL defense was VASTLY overrated this season from beating up on poor talent and/or true freshmen QB's. Real competition had no trouble putting up points on them.
Shoulda just paid Chavis, the Hat is a moron
Shoulda just paid Chavis, the Hat is a moron
I hope he jumps ship and goes to LSU. That will just show the U of Smell fans that when given the chance, any coach in his right might will leave their over rated football program to coach in the SEC.
He was a cancer on the staff, played favorites, kid he didn't like made a mistake and he didn't play again, not just that game, 4-5 games and maybe the entire season. People with "insider" info said he was told after the Vandy game to find him something else because he wouldn't be back for 14. Of course like most insider information you have to take that with a grain of salt. But on top of that he isn't a good recruiter, he can target 1 kid and go all out for him and the rest go elsewhere.
Someone posted the comparison of our 13 season and 14 stats. from over 31 points a game down to 20, from minus 3 turnovers to plus 17, from 81 in total defense to 19.
LSU going after him will result in Les being fired soon, would be crazy if Grantham turns failed DC jobs into a head coaching job in the SEC.
Mentioned in another thread that I read somewhere Mike Stoops maybe on the LSU radar...
May be the swan song of Miles this upcoming season...he needs to roll out before things get any worse...SEC, especially the West isn't going to get any easier...
As a coach his stock is still extremely valuable, he needs to keep his options opened the next coaching carousel...
May be the swan song of Miles this upcoming season...he needs to roll out before things get any worse...SEC, especially the West isn't going to get any easier...
As a coach his stock is still extremely valuable, he needs to keep his options opened the next coaching carousel...
This is so true. I have never seen a fan base so happy to see a coordinator go than the Georgia fans when Louisville took this headache of a DC. Only Petrino is loathed more in Georgia than this yo yo. If LSU has fallen this far, Les Miles is on a thread for his job. And the thread will stretch to a breaking point.
At least the UGA castoff pipeline will dry up and they'll be stuck with what they get from the state penitentiary and their mediocre recruiting
SEC west was overrated this year, Bama was a little better than the others but not so much they couldn't lose a game if they were off on a particular day. The bowl season should have been enough to show that and several teams will be down more next year. State loses quite a bit on offense, but looks like they will have Prescot back and they were bad against the pass this year. OM is going to depend on another head case at qb and has no SEC quality RB, how many will leave LSU early, maybe Chavis got tired of his players rush to get out of Baton Rogue, Arkansas will be better, they were playing better than anyone in the West at the end of the season, including Bama. and then you hase A&M who could be very good with a D or their offense is so fast paced doesn't matter who the DC is.
As much as it pains me to say this, and it does hurt, the team of the future may be in the SEC East. That team is Tennessee. Their improvement over the past couple of years should put concern in all of the teams in the East. Their recruiting is top shelf also. The days of their being down may be coming to an end in a few years if not sooner. I sure hope not but one has to be realistic.
Miles is smarter than this unless he's been turned down by others.
Re TAM....they did lose 5 of their last 7 and yes the D was mostly responsible but they struggled on O too at times. Maybe just growing pains by the frosh QB. But they have Chavis now and he doesn't have bad Ds. Some better than others but not bad ones.
Re TAM....they did lose 5 of their last 7 and yes the D was mostly responsible but they struggled on O too at times. Maybe just growing pains by the frosh QB. But they have Chavis now and he doesn't have bad Ds. Some better than others but not bad ones.
IF true, it oughta tell everybody 1 thing,,,The Cards D is gonna suck next year! 1st of all, I think Grantham is a really good DC, just not elite. That's why he struggled at Ga...and why he struggled against Ga in the bowl game at UL. To me, this reeks of Grantham gettin while the gettin is good, knowing that UL loses everything on D next year.
If he is still UL's DC next season, then he will likely be there for a long time, because he will have to rebuild and re-prove himself again, and nobody will want him. AS it stands, he is a hot commodity because UL played second tier talent all season, allowing them to stay ranked high on D. If Miles offers him, it's a get out of jail free card (pun intended).
If he is still UL's DC next season, then he will likely be there for a long time, because he will have to rebuild and re-prove himself again, and nobody will want him. AS it stands, he is a hot commodity because UL played second tier talent all season, allowing them to stay ranked high on D. If Miles offers him, it's a get out of jail free card (pun intended).
I agree Saw, been years since those awful orange flags have been flying in North Georgia, but after the bowl game here they come. I know quite a few former UT players, good friends with 2 of them both former AA and they are pumped about UT's future. But, I am not real sure Iowa was as excited about their bowl game as UT was either, hopefully that was a big part of them looking as good as they did in their bowl. Dobbs is a smart guy, and a very good athlete, he will put pressure on defenses and they have some good receivers.
This could be nothing more than Grantham trying to float his own name to see if he's going to get more money out of UL and it probably could work considering Jurich's propensity to win at all cost and keep his boy Bobby happy.I think UL is in for a wakeup call on Defense. Grantham hasn't exactly been the recruiter I think Bobby was thinking he was getting with his southern ties and that D from this year was built mostly by Strong and Co.
Thats true, every year he was at UGA 2-3 weeks before signing day he was always looking for something else, interviewed for every open job in the NFL that would give him an interview. Funny thing is there was nothing leaked about his interview with Petrino until he was gone, loudest cheer of the year from UGA fans.
But but but-----
jurich had to hire him, how else could he show a semblance of being on a par with the SEC? And he had to give him a million dollar contract, how else could have gotten him to UL with all that competition?. Geez, he had to give BP over $3,000,000 due to the long and protracted bidding war with all those other teams that wanted him, of course there are ways to throw $500,000 bonuses at them if you are creative. Or don't give a dam about how much of other peoples money you spend.
If he is smart he will leave Stepping Stone U, also known as Transfer U, as soon as Strong's talent leaves, any good job he can get would be an improvement..
jurich had to hire him, how else could he show a semblance of being on a par with the SEC? And he had to give him a million dollar contract, how else could have gotten him to UL with all that competition?. Geez, he had to give BP over $3,000,000 due to the long and protracted bidding war with all those other teams that wanted him, of course there are ways to throw $500,000 bonuses at them if you are creative. Or don't give a dam about how much of other peoples money you spend.
If he is smart he will leave Stepping Stone U, also known as Transfer U, as soon as Strong's talent leaves, any good job he can get would be an improvement..
Actually from 30.9 in 2013 down to 21.7 PPG this past season. That's very good improvement and scoring defense is certainly important. But unless the scoring stats have been filtered for scores not directly attributable to the defense (i.e., returns for TD and even scores resulting from very short fields) I think yards per game allowed (YPGA) is a better measuring stick.
Last year GA was #22 in total defense with 348 YPGA (against FBS competition). In 2013, GA was #48 with 386 YPGA. 2013 was Grantham's worst year and (per Steele) he had only 3 returning defensive starters. GA returned 8 starters for 2014.
In his 4 years at GA Grantham's defenses averaged 347 YPGA.
Today's high octane offenses are wreaking havoc on defenses and changing the performance standards for "good defense". Between 2005 and 2009 there was an annual average of 45 defenses that held opponents under 350 YPG. Between 2010 and 2014 there was an annual average of only 25 teams that could do so.
Peace
The issue my UGA friends had with Grantham were related to third down conversions and the way he played favorites and alienated players and parents. They said the overall defensive numbers were always solid with him. I have no idea if the stats back up their issues with him. Just passing along what I was told. I do know UGA had a good 3rd down conversion against UOFL.
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And Steele would be incorrect, we had 6 new starters on defense this year, we returned 4 LB and 1 secondary starter, the others were first year starters, apparently he included the 2 starters who transferred to Louisville and the one who lost his spot.
But back to the stats, we improved a half yard per play given up for the season, we improved 40 positions on 3rd down stops, I am sure UofL came to know what 3rd and Grantham meant, I know they did against us. You happy you have him, we are happy you have him and UK fans are happy you have him, so he made 3 fanbases very happy.
Georgia absolutely crushed UofL's hopes on 3rd down, going 12-19. However, UofL, I'm pretty sure, was ranked #3 in the country in 3rd down conversion percentage defense, going in to the Georgia game. With Georgia's success, UofL DID finish the year ranked #10 in 3rd down conversion percentage defense. I personally think instead of UofL and Grantham being able to capitalize on Grantham's knowledge of Georgia's offense, Georgia was the one who actually capitalized on Grantham's defensive tendencies.
It's funny how UL fans want to point to all these defensive stats and pound their chest but they got smacked by every offense with a pulse. Our offense wasn't great this season and we scored 40 on them. Our true freshman RB had a field day on them. Syracuse, Virginia, Wake Forest, NC State, FIU, Clemson without Watson, and Miami with a true freshman QB in his first game were all embarrassing offensively. UL faced some terrible QBs all season long. I'd argue that after Winston the best two QBs UL saw the rest of the season were Towles and Hudson Mason. You don't let Chubb break Herschel Walker records on you if you're truly a top 10 defense
It's hilarious how UL fans always know more about any other team than their own. I guess you get to become experts on all the other teams when you are in a new conference every other year.
I would just say to our friends down in Baton Rouge, they better hope not. Going from Chavis to Grantham would be a HUGE drop!
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