Those two late Gonzaga threes in OT......

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

........first one with about 2 min left- Nembhart goes to shoot, loses the ball, then punches it to a teammate (could have been a travel as he was first to touch it?)- then gets the ball back and buries a three. Ouch.

2nd one- Hickman has Brea literally draped all over him- the only other thing Brea could have done was foul him- and he drains it. DAGGER.

Our 7 point OT lead was essentially gone, and we could have folded. But our guys kept fighting!

 

[CELTICAT]

Gave me PTSD from the 2005 Michigan St fiasco.

 

[katwest]

Watching some of the highlights I noticed Nembhard carried the ball a lot on his little hesitation moves. If you are going to let a guy carry the ball like that, they have a tremendous advantage over the defense. They already let too much go for the offense with that silly euro step, now they are letting them get away with carrying the ball. It's happened a lot lately, I've been noticing this for a while now. Anytime you have your palms on the bottom of the ball, it should be called.

 

[LordEggForgotHisPassword]

Gave me PTSD from the 2005 Michigan St fiasco.

what a disaster.

 

[KA4Prez]

The Hickman three was like a shovel shot. It was one of the luckier shots of the whole game.

 

[Phil_The_Music]

Watching some of the highlights I noticed Nembhard carried the ball a lot on his little hesitation moves. If you are going to let a guy carry the ball like that, they have a tremendous advantage over the defense. They already let too much go for the offense with that silly euro step, now they are letting them get away with carrying the ball. It's happened a lot lately, I've been noticing this for a while now. Anytime you have your palms on the bottom of the ball, it should be called.

I've noticed from watching several games this year (not just ours) that refs are being very loose with traveling, palming and double dribble calls. I've seen countless double dribble no calls this season.

 

[Greatestalltime]

Watching some of the highlights I noticed Nembhard carried the ball a lot on his little hesitation moves. If you are going to let a guy carry the ball like that, they have a tremendous advantage over the defense. They already let too much go for the offense with that silly euro step, now they are letting them get away with carrying the ball. It's happened a lot lately, I've been noticing this for a while now. Anytime you have your palms on the bottom of the ball, it should be called.

They also don’t make guys keep their pivot foot from moving especially on post moves. It’s pivot not slide.

 

[Jamal Mercer]

Carrying just isn’t a thing anymore.

I coach. I try to get my kids to stop carrying the ball, but the officials never call it in a game. So….its tough to get that point across to them in practice.

 

[Cawood86]

Carr's late play on defense after missing his FT was key. Guy was driving toward the goal. Huge play. Mature players do that

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

They also don’t make guys keep their pivot foot from moving especially on post moves. It’s pivot not slide.

AND GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!

Just kidding. I agree.

 

[Creed Bratton]

I've noticed from watching several games this year (not just ours) that refs are being very loose with traveling, palming and double dribble calls. I've seen countless double dribble no calls this season.

Their big guy, when backing down defenders, would palm the ball every time. The one time when Jaxon was called for a foul and knocked the ball away after the refs call, it was blatant that he palmed it.

 

[Creed Bratton]

They also don’t make guys keep their pivot foot from moving especially on post moves. It’s pivot not slide.

They also let guys away with taking 3-4 steps on a hand off or when catching the ball on the perimeter before they "establish" their pivot foot.

 

[BlueInBrooklyn]

Their big guy, when backing down defenders, would palm the ball every time. The one time when Jaxon was called for a foul and knocked the ball away after the refs call, it was blatant that he palmed it.

Amari walks basically every time he turns his back to the basket. Thank God they don’t call it.

 

[Creed Bratton]

Amari walks basically every time he turns his back to the basket. Thank God they don’t call it.

I think everyone is saying they don't call basic things like palming, walks, etc anymore no matter the team. Instead they fall for flopping and flailing. Knuepple and 17 year old Flagg fall to the floor on every shot trying to get a foul called no matter if there is contact or not.

 

[kywildcats8]

Carr's late play on defense after missing his FT was key. Guy was driving toward the goal. Huge play. Mature players do that

Couldn't believe he missed both of those FTs but he didn't give up- gotta love the effort

 

[kywildcats8]

I think everyone is saying they don't call basic things like palming, walks, etc anymore no matter the team. Instead they fall for flopping and flailing. Knuepple and 17 year old Flagg fall to the floor on every shot trying to get a foul called no matter if there is contact or not.

I think I can remember seeing "3 seconds" called in the lane 2-3 times in the past 5 years- guys camp out in the lane and nothing is ever called

 

[Bleedin Blue in Ohio]

Carr also had a huge rebound and put back with 1 minute to go in overtime. In our 2 biggest games Duke and Gonzaga he made huge plays down the stretch in both.

 

[westerncat]

I guess I am old school on shooting FT'S. Seem like we miss a lot with players that have been playing for 4-5 years. I know they are not robots but you have 10 seconds to shoot them. Just take a deep breath and relax before they shoot them.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

You just knew they were both going in and guess what ?
If surfer dude doesn't get the ball poked away from him at the last 2 secs he would have banked in a 35 footer to win it.
Its our birthright.

 

[Creed Bratton]

I think I can remember seeing "3 seconds" called in the lane 2-3 times in the past 5 years- guys camp out in the lane and nothing is ever called

We went from having refs at the monitor looking for a hook and hold call 3 years ago to it never getting called despite happening all the time still. Just so much inconsistency.

 

[Mulder14]

Carr's late play on defense after missing his FT was key. Guy was driving toward the goal. Huge play. Mature players do that

Your right some guys would have just stood there sulking

 

[yabbadabbadoo]

That three-point shot that Nolan Hickman hit came straight out of his ass

 

[BlueInBrooklyn]

I think everyone is saying they don't call basic things like palming, walks, etc anymore no matter the team. Instead they fall for flopping and flailing. Knuepple and 17 year old Flagg fall to the floor on every shot trying to get a foul called no matter if there is contact or not.

Oh, totally agree. Was just saying I'm glad they don't call it on US either. It's just not a thing anymore, agree.

 

[Johnfarrel]

Watching some of the highlights I noticed Nembhard carried the ball a lot on his little hesitation moves. If you are going to let a guy carry the ball like that, they have a tremendous advantage over the defense. They already let too much go for the offense with that silly euro step, now they are letting them get away with carrying the ball. It's happened a lot lately, I've been noticing this for a while now. Anytime you have your palms on the bottom of the ball, it should be called.

Carrying the ball is my pet peeve. It's so obvious and it's never called.

 

[Fox2monk]

........first one with about 2 min left- Nembhart goes to shoot, loses the ball, then punches it to a teammate (could have been a travel as he was first to touch it?)- then gets the ball back and buries a three. Ouch.

2nd one- Hickman has Brea literally draped all over him- the only other thing Brea could have done was foul him- and he drains it. DAGGER.

Our 7 point OT lead was essentially gone, and we could have folded. But our guys kept fighting!

I know man, I was like WTF?!! They hit that junk after missing everything all night. It never fails.

 

[NociHTTP]

I've noticed from watching several games this year (not just ours) that refs are being very loose with traveling, palming and double dribble calls. I've seen countless double dribble no calls this season.

I've been seeing this for YEARS. Especially palming. I think in the Gonzaga game Brea travelled when he came out on top of the key and received a pass. But he's forgiven There has been a lot of palming going on for a long time, it happens in the NBA, too.

 

[bbncal02]

Couldn't believe he missed both of those FTs but he didn't give up- gotta love the effort

Yeah I was sneaking radio while working and when I heard Leach say he missed them both I was like “Aw ish here we go.. they’re gonna break our hearts in a last second shit”.

He didn’t quit though.