This scandal is the beginning of the end for the NCAA

[LostinIndiana]

Simply for the fact that they knew nothing of the FBI investigation into their realm of expertise the NCAA has shown without a doubt that they are inept and corrupt.They have looked the other way for too long as the shoe companies and pro agents have cherry picked the student athletes that they profess to protect.
"We just don't have enough people to do the oversight," is their lame excuse, but why don't they use some of the eight billion dollars that they fleeced from the networks for March Madness and hire more people? Plain and simply; they don't want to catch anyone. They are too busy lining their pockets to look up and see that it is at the expense of mostly minority and poor children.
Furthermore, they even refuse to let the athletes share in their bounty, in effect turning them into indentured servants. No other business in our capitalist society could function in such a manner for such a length of time.
They have their sacred cash cow universities that they try to protect at all cost and at the expense of the other less profitable institutions. Stick Southern Miss with harsh penalties and look the other way as UNC pays for cars and grills for their players, and never mind that they didn't attend classes either.
The whole system is rotten, and now the FBi will show the world just how rotten that it is, and the NCAA can no longer hide.

 

[hotelblue]

preach it.

 

[KyCatFan]

I was predicting the beginning of the end of the NCAA depending on the punishment, or lack thereof for the UNC fake grades fiasco. I think if they get away without punishment, there will be a number of schools that rise up and challenge the NCAA and threaten to leave and start their own organization.

How fair is it to have fake classes to keep players eligible while everyone else makes their players take legitimate (albeit mostly easy) classes? Also, how fair is it to be allowed to have requirements for regular students to get into your college and way easier requirements for athletes? That being at a prestigious academic university is much worse.

They even allow players who skip a year of high school while going to 3 different high schools in 3 years to become eligible. That is extremely hard to believe. Especially after already getting another player that no one thought would qualify cleared. It's time to ditch favorites and to treat everyone equally or you might as well disband the whole organization.

 

[Smashcat]

was predicting the beginning of the end of the NCAA depending on the punishment, or lack thereof for the UNC fake grades fiasco. I think if they get away without punishment, there will be a number of schools that rise up and challenge the NCAA and thr

Agree.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

Doesn't have to be the end for the NCAA. They could suddenly grow a spine and some integrity (yeah right!) and just separate themselves from the shoe companies. They could outlaw any AAU program that has connections with those companies as well.
Of course that won't happen because there's too much money at stake. The NCAA has been complicit in all this under the table stuff. Why they weren't named in an indictment is beyond me.

 

[morgousky]

It's all speculation. I've not seen any evidence the NCAA is in any trouble except in the public eye, which has never changed.

Everyone needs to just chill out and see where it ends. All the hoopla could easily be unnecessary build up.

I definitely see some changes coming with the OAD and AAU system in general. The NCAA will become much tighter in how they police it. Handlers and coaches will find the next opening. And on we go.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Simply for the fact that they knew nothing of the FBI investigation into their realm of expertise the NCAA has shown without a doubt that they are inept and corrupt.They have looked the other way for too long as the shoe companies and pro agents have cherry picked the student athletes that they profess to protect.
"We just don't have enough people to do the oversight," is their lame excuse, but why don't they use some of the eight billion dollars that they fleeced from the networks for March Madness and hire more people? Plain and simply; they don't want to catch anyone. They are too busy lining their pockets to look up and see that it is at the expense of mostly minority and poor children.
Furthermore, they even refuse to let the athletes share in their bounty, in effect turning them into indentured servants. No other business in our capitalist society could function in such a manner for such a length of time.
They have their sacred cash cow universities that they try to protect at all cost and at the expense of the other less profitable institutions. Stick Southern Miss with harsh penalties and look the other way as UNC pays for cars and grills for their players, and never mind that they didn't attend classes either.
The whole system is rotten, and now the FBi will show the world just how rotten that it is, and the NCAA can no longer hide.

Well besides all that most of these athletes would never get into a college using the same standards as regular students.

 

[thepip]

' Here is the change needed: 'Sandy Bell' takes Mark Emmert's office.

 

[MEMEBLUE]

With everything going on in the world today, am I the only person wondering why the Feds wasted time and money investigating college basketball.There's bigger fish to fry than this?

 

[dgtatu01]

With everything going on in the world today, am I the only person wondering why the Feds wasted time and money investigating college basketball.There's bigger fish to fry than this?

I’m pretty sure the investigation started because a financial advisor to a player who was steered to a certain management group through a coach who was bribed fleeced the player of all their money. When people in positions of trust are taking bribes to steer young men in the wrong direction to agents then people need to go to jail.

 

[sambowieshin]

As long as the NCAA is raking in millions every March, not much will change. They may do some window dressing but the system is too profitable for major changes to be made.

 

[UKErik]

Why would the NCAA be done? It'll be around for as long as universities want it to be around.

I think the NCAA's biggest threat is the possibility that P5 schools might eventually form their own organization, and that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon.

GBB!!!

 

[KYNC89]

With everything going on in the world today, am I the only person wondering why the Feds wasted time and money investigating college basketball.There's bigger fish to fry than this?

FBI has several different departments, in which they have several types of roles and functions. Not trying to be rude but it shouldn't be hard to comprehend. The FBI stands for federal bureau of investigation.

 

[WildcatfaninOhio]

With everything going on in the world today, am I the only person wondering why the Feds wasted time and money investigating college basketball.There's bigger fish to fry than this?

Bribery, fraud, corruption and racketeering. Federal crimes. It's the job of the FBI to investigate these things. Those crimes are the big fish that the FBI fries!

 

[Xception]

The NCAA usually relies on self reporting to launch an investigation, they don't conduct sting operations like the FBI. Where would the NCAA start in finding this issue? The coaches involved would all lie and the players aren't going to be honest either. I don't blame the NCAA for not discovering this but now that they know I can blame them for not administering the appropriate amount of justice.

 

[GhostVol]

The NAIA says "Welcome back"!

 

[CatPhight]

For all we know the FBI have already raided the NCAA offices and seized Emmert's flash drive.

 

[JRS_OH_Cat]

With everything going on in the world today, am I the only person wondering why the Feds wasted time and money investigating college basketball.There's bigger fish to fry than this?

This is the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York we're talking about. These are the fuses tgat bring down Wall Street types, the Mob, etc. I doubt there target is college assistant coaches or even head coaches. I think their sites are set on the shoe companies which are billion dollar enterprises.

 

[PhattyJ4UK]

With everything going on in the world today, am I the only person wondering why the Feds wasted time and money investigating college basketball.There's bigger fish to fry than this?

We have low level Feds also. I doubt you want the 24 year old Pimple faced dork investigating curropt politicians.

"The Feds" are quite capable of investigating numerous things at once both big and small.

If I was a school in trouble, I'd be hiring hildabeast as she is untouchable by the Feds.

 

[FilsonCat]

Considering the amount of federal state and local funds that are tied up in arena construction and higher education, there is a compelling public interest for prosecution if federal crimes were committed.

The most likely predicate crimes are money laundering and income tax evasion. Others such as bribery will be more limited to public officials who had to commit an "official act" in exchange for something of value. Bribery is tough to prove without video and audio evidence.

 

[cawoodsct]

Ok, so the NCAA ends...... what, who, then becomes the governing body. Throw out some ideas on how this goes down in the future and how college athletics will look in the coming years.

 

[TM2013]

Sorry to break the news, but the NCAA is going to be around for as long as any of us are alive. I don’t see how this really negatively affects them at all.

 

[morgousky]

Why would the NCAA be done? It'll be around for as long as universities want it to be around.

I think the NCAA's biggest threat is the possibility that P5 schools might eventually form their own organization, and that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon.

GBB!!!

Exactly. All media hype And it has people off their game.

Our media is almost complete fake news today.

 

[morgousky]

Ok, so the NCAA ends...... what, who, then becomes the governing body. Throw out some ideas on how this goes down in the future and how college athletics will look in the coming years.

We all know this. Either people don't know what they're talking about and talk in circles / general, never getting into specifics, or they are the "tear it down" crowd who want to professionalize the sport. It's that simple.

And for those that don't want to professionalize the sport, stop jumping on the train created for you to do it. Most of the anti NCAA talk is designed to steer people toward professional ends.

 

[FilsonCat]

The sport has already been made into a semi-professional league by shoe companies, agents, and programs like UL or (insert shady as hell win-at-all-costs programs here). The pretense of academically challenged basketball players graduating from Duke or UNC with degrees in three years is a total joke. Or hell, using fake classes and tracking said athletes into specific majors to ensure eligibility is also a joke.

The entire concept of amateurism in athletics is a thin facade or fig leaf of legitimacy over a multi-billion dollar industry built on the backs of marginally compensated athletes. How much really is an education comprised of phony or "special" classes really worth anyhow?

The NCAA won't be going anywhere for the forseeable future. There is just too much money at stake for too many in positions of power. But we should also not be blind to the economic realities of modern sports. There is no way to effecticely prevent malefactors ranging from agents to rogue coaches from cheating. The NCAA sure can't, or isn't willing to in certain cases.