The DDMO please explain... and my questions...

[BBUK]

I have watched the DDMO work to perfection a few times this season. When it is ran like I saw it ran those few times it "was a thing of beauty" -Mick.

My questions/ thoughts/ and concern....

Can the DDMO be ran enough times per game to give UK the advantage in scoring enough times to better there odds at winning? (I know Cal's and UK's winning percentage. No questions about that.) Can this team or any team work the DDMO to perfection to where Cal has a team that actually wins using this offense? (I know Cal's current winning percentages. My question has nothing to do with the two losses this season.)

I see this team and have seen other Cal UK teams run this offense but it seems they cannot run it enough to warrant playing it all or most of the time. OTS had the ball line defense (I know the name but not how it worked- in any event I didn't like the look of it or the result.)

(This is my perception.)

Cal has the DDMO but I don't see it ran enough to where it can be a difference maker enough to warrant it being played enough to sway an outcome.

Cal is a master at playing sets to the strength of his teams. I have yet to see a team's strength be the DDMO unless I missed it. (I saw a couple Memphis games but not enough to comment.)

Can any of Cal's teams in one season perfect this offense enough to win with it? Is the DDMO an offense that needs more than one season for it to be effective enough to win using it?

As successful as Cal has been is the DDMO successful? I guess that is my question in a nutshell.

Don't bash, I totally admit I am not a basketball anything except a fan of UK and UK basketball. I am asking and tried to include enough to explain my point. Thanks in advance...

 

[RogerD]

Some of the Cal-bashers on the site seem to think that the DDMO doesn't really exist, that it is a recruiting gimmick, and not an actual offense. I don't agree, we typically run (or try to run) the classical DDMO set (which is easily recognizable by the 3-man weave to the free-throw line) 5-6 times per game. Other than the 2009 team, I don't recall any of Cal's other teams trying to run it more than 8-10 times per game. I have no idea how often he ran it at Memphis. My guess is that the DDMO is easy for a D1-level defense to stop if they know it is coming, so it needs to be used sparingly, and at times when the defense is not expecting it.

The team seems to be trying to run a couple of different motion sets this year, but doing so very poorly.

 

[StubbornPenny]

use more parenthesis (please).

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

The problem is that teams know how to defend the DDMO when we aren't hitting outside shots.

 

[Rockford]

If a team has sagged into the paint on you and only has to defend 14 feet of the court (b/c you can't shoot it) it's not gonna make a lot of difference what you run. IT's going to be a struggle.

When or if we shoot it better, the floor will open up and you can run much more offense, such as the DDMO.

The trick is shooting the ball better. That's why Cal gets the big bucks, I guess!

 

[*CatinIL*]

The problem is that teams know how to defend the DDMO when we aren't hitting outside shots.

Yep...that was a big problem in the first half of the OSU game.

 

[catben]

3 things are killing our DDMO:

-Not drawing enough fouls, but when we do, not making the Free Throws
-Not making enough open shots
-Not getting points from offensive rebounds

Have got to use our superior athleticism as a weapon for the DDMO to work.

 

[nerdcat]

The DDMO is like Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, or a federal budget cut - often talked about but never seen. Seriously, though, it can't be sustained for a whole game, and it takes a special collection of personnel to run it effectively.

 

[Rockford]

Things that are true:

Death and Taxes
Build it and they will come
Shoot it and you will win

 

[*CatinIL*]

The DDMO is like Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, or a federal budget cut - often talked about but never seen. Seriously, though, it can't be sustained for a whole game, and it takes a special collection of personnel to run it effectively.

These guys are on the scene....

 

[willievic]

The DDMO will work very well if you can hit a few threes to open up the floor. Then, you must be able to beat your man off the dribble, which will force the man guarding the center, or (man under the basket), to try to stop you, therefore leaving his man. You now have a man open under the basket for the pass, or you can shoot, and if you miss, your center has a good chance of getting the rebound.
It's very easy to run, if you can hit from the outside, thereby spreading the court. You need a guard with a quick first step. Wall was perfect for the DDMO, but the team could NOT hit from the outside. If the opposing team packs it in, it doesn't work, because you have one against three, which is what we had in the first half against Ohio State.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[BBUK]

use more parenthesis (please).

Bud, I guide the work of 45-50 people across 20 states. They work when trying to convey what you are trying to say via typing....but maybe I can learn more....Be Good

 

[BBUK]

Thanks for the insight (((((( ))))))

 

[bucsrule8872]

Like others have said, the DDMO doesn't work very well if defenses sag. They will continue to sag against us as long as we aren't making many outside shots.

A lot of people do not recognize the DDMO when it is used, though. The 2012 used it quite a bit and it worked because we had the pieces to run it. We had drivers (Teague, MKG, Lamb), shooters (Lamb, Miller, Wiltjer), and guys that could rebound and finish at the rim (AD, TJ, MKG). Go back and watch those games and count how many times AD or TJ post up. It's not a lot. They are playing off the block quite a bit. AD made a living off of weak side rebounds and putbacks and lobs. That is the DDMO. Cal runs it when he has the personnel to run it.

 

[RogerD]

Bud, I guide the work of 45-50 people across 20 states. They work when trying to convey what you are trying to say via typing....but maybe I can learn more....Be Good

The jab may have been directed at me as much as you. Looking at the other posts in this thread, it seems like you can not discuss the DDMO without using parentheses. (At least not intelligently).

 

[Aike]

It works best if you have 4 guys who can all shoot and drive. We don't appear to have that.

 

[BBUK]

The jab may have been directed at me as much as you. Looking at the other posts in this thread, it seems like you can not discuss the DDMO without using parentheses. (At least not intelligently).

You're right, foolishly I thought one thread would have finished without a jab as I over-qualified my ignorance in the subject but,... oh well. Be Good and Merry Christmas...

 

[qwesley]

We routinely have 3 guys on the court that don't have to be guarded outside the paint. No where to drive and they can shade Ulis and Murray and make them drive into multiple defenders.

 

[uk78]

CatBen had it correct. That's really the problem in a nutshell.