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The Calm Before the Storm.

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This preseason just seems a tad quieter and laid back than most.

I still hear the conversations when football fans gather, but all of the discussions seem to be sort of “hushed,”
or muted.

We list the transfers, agree there no apparent holes, and then ponder the potential.

And I do not think we are psychologically playing “the reversed curse” game, or are frightened to make guady predictions.

Instead, I think the fan base has kind of taken on a personality trait of Coach Stoops.

Do you remember Coach Stoops prior predictions of our 10 win seasons?

No you don’t. The closest he ever came to predicting the results of ‘18/19 and ‘21/22 were smiling statements that “I like my team.”

Instead of the frequent meaningless prattle seen in pre-Stoops preseasons , there is a totally different feel.

I call it a quiet resolve.
 
From Ball State Scrimmage on the Ball State Website:

Defense and Freshman QB Among Scrimmage Highlights​

August 12, 2023

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MUNCIE, Ind. – Operating in their first "game situation" scrimmage of the season, the Ball State football team got a strong showing from its revamped defensive line. On the offensive side of the ball, focus on consistency was the key while working through multiple personnel groups.

"It was great being out here on a Saturday afternoon when we're going to play most of our games," said Cardinals head coach Mike Neu. "It was hot today, just like it's going to be in a couple weeks, so it was good to replicate those conditions and play in front of some MAC [Mid-American Conference] referees."

"We had too many penalties, though," Neu added. "We have a lot to learn. But that's what today was about – develop some discipline and some consistency, and make sure that we're not making those same mistakes when we have a real opponent on the field."

While consistency on both sides of the ball was certainly a focus, the challenge was finding that consistency on offense while working through four quarterbacks and over a dozen receivers, all the while limiting the run game to minimize contact.

Unofficial statistics reflected 16 different pass-catchers, with 11 players grabbing at least two receptions. Oddly, none of those receivers was starting tight end Brady Hunt.

On the passing end, Layne Hatcher finished the day completing 17 of 23 passes for 133 yards. Kiael Kelly was 6-of-9 passing for 53 yards through the air. Kelly's 63-yard run produced one of the game's first highlights. In the second half of the scrimmage, another highlight was Kelly's 24-yard TD strike to transfer receiver Ty Robinson on a double-reverse pass after Kelly lined up as a receiver. Later, Kelly connected with transfer running back Charlie Spegal on a 6-yard score.

The most productive passer overall was freshman Kadin Semonza from Mission Viejo, Calif., who completed 12 of 21 passes for 152 yards and three TDs. Semonza's first throw was batted down by transfer defensive end James Makszin, but he connected with sophomore tight end Justin Morris on the next two plays resulting in a 36-yard TD. Semonza also completed his next five throws before "halftime," to five different receivers. Among them was a 44-yard score up the middle to tight end Maximus Webster. His TD pass in the second half was a 2-yard dart to Robinson on third-and-goal.

Robinson, a junior transfer from Colorado, was the Cards' top receiver on the day, gathering four passes for 49 yards and two scores. Returning tight end Tanner Koziol hauled in four passes for 32 yards. Koziol's four catches all came from Hatcher, including three straight plays in the second half.

While defensive statistics were unavailable, coaching staffs on both sides of the ball praised the defensive line – responsible for at least three sacks and disruption in the midst of shuffling offenses. With Sidney Houston rushing on the edge and newcomers Makszin and Mikari Sibblis joining an already experienced unit, "the D-line did well," said an understated defensive coordinator Tyler Stockton. "Coach [Adam] Morris has done a great job managing that group so far."

Added co-offensive coordinator Kevin Lynch, now in his eighth year with the program, "this is the most depth I have seen on the defensive line since I've been here."

Ball State resumes its practice schedule on Sunday, before an off day on Monday. Training camp continues next week before fall classes begin on campus August 21.
 
Quiet resolve seems to describe the players very well. I believe this will be Stoops' best team since he has been here. I really don't have any doubt about that.

The key questions are, can we avoid key, season ending injuries, and will Stoop's best team be good enough against perhaps his toughest schedule to date. Have to see how those two issues play out over the season.

I think we are better prepare to play that difficult schedule than we have been any time since 1977. That team dominated Georgia and LSU in away games by a combined score of 66-3. Not saying to expect that from this team, but it does show what can happen when a talented team wins games and confidence grows. This could be a special season. For the '77 team, it all started on the DL. It will be the same this season.
 
I think it’s confidence in building his roster, think the only concern is RT and depth on the o-line and cb. Could be a really good year if we stay healthy, if that’s the case I’m calling for a UT and a surprising Bama win. Hell, just glad to see football here again.
 
I believe most UK football fans are confident this is going to be a good to very good season and a significant minority are quietly expecting something special as everything seems to be lining up nicely. The caveat is the offensive line and how they really prevented last years' team from reaching their potential, so everyone is waiting to see how the line holds up in those first few games because it was apparent how bad they were from snap one last year.
 
One game at a time. You can't worry about Georgia and Tennessee when you're playing Ball State or North Dakota U. Everybody hits, everybody plays to win. Or should.
 
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I get the quiet confidence, you see it in the players interviews and fans posting here and twitter and other places. For one thing I think fans are reluctant to get too mouthy coming off that 7 win debacle last year including a loss to Vandy. Oddly some of the more bold predictions are coming from those outside the program. SEC Mike, Cole Cubelic and others are talking about Kentucky finishing 2nd in the East and having a shot at winning it. Even on this board the only member I have seen predicting that Kentucky's ceiling is 12 regular season games this year was a UGA fan.

Other than the fact that you can point too a few positions where we would like to have a little more depth, there really isn't any weakness on all three sides of the ball. To be honest we're loaded. Should be a fun season.
 
What’s the word on Special Teams and our Field Goal unit this year?
We got Alex Raynor through the portal, a place kicker that's 90% from 45 in. They also brought in one or two new long snappers. Maybe the best news is Jay Boulware a highly experienced ST coach who served in that roll at 5 different P5 programs, including Texas and Oklahoma. He will definitely be what the doctor ordered for our ST woos from last year.
 
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Most fans know we needed to upgrade the line and get a kicker and special teams coach. With most holes filled it's a wait and see kinda thing. I'm not sold on our kicker til pressure gets on him. Can't leave points on the field and win big games consistently. SEC games are always close and u gotta be able to take the points sometimes.
 
Kentucky absolutely has the tools to compete for the SEC title this year. We have a great defense, great offensive skill, and great coordinators.

The only limiting factor that I and I think a lot of fans see is depth. The 2007 team's healthy first-teamers could beat the best in the nation on any given night, but succumbed to injury and wear. Except for a couple key positions, I think UK has the depth to handle the SEC meat grinder.

Questions at tackle combined with Leary's perceived (albeit, perhaps unfair) injury bug give me pause, but I know that if we give the QB time and scheme around weaknesses, which Coen will do, that we'll put the ball in space and rip defenses apart. It'll be interesting to see if we can keep our offensive 1s healthy through the start of conference play.

Defense is defense is defense. We'll be one of the best again this year, but for the first time in Stoops' tenure, we could very well have an offense to really complement the defense.

Football can't get here quick enough.
 
To be fair…Uk only has depth issues at offensive tackle (the guards are fine IMO) , inside Lber and Wr (especially on the outside )….I struggle to say Qb as just about everybody has unproven at backup Qb

But that is it. Everything else if a DL goes down, safety, Edge rusher, Te, RB, etc…we have r roster to withstand the long season

This roster is dang good
 
Every football team has its strengths and limitations. This year, we have fewer limitations because our coaches have worked hard to fix them.

Just based on Coach Boulware's reputation and the incoming transfers, I am confident our special teams are fixed.

After talking with a relocated NC St fan the other day, I am getting excited about Leary. Leary may actually be among the very top QBs in the nation this year. He will certainly have the receivers to get it done.

Like everyone else, I am wondering about our OL. No question in my mind, our OL will be better. How much better? That depends on Marques Cox, Courtland Ford, Jeremy Flax, and Ben Christman. Practices are closed but I am seeing praise for Cox and Flax from our coaches. And while some posters slam Flax out of habit, IMO it is great news that he is battling to keep his role. Ford is an unknown until he shows me something. We need him to step up and fight like our other linemen are, but he has missed some practices with minor (hopefully) injuries. Of all the transfers, Christman is one who is flying lowest under the radar. I heard he is huge, mean, and glad to be here.

I don't know about quiet resolve. Put me in the camp that thinks we have the most improved football team in the SEC. As far as depth goes, we can't afford to lose Leary, Key, Brown, Cox, Walker, Weaver, Jackson, or Wallace for significant SEC games. At the end of the day, that's a high number of irreplaceable players. But every team has those. Let's play the games and find out what's what this year.
 
Things I want to see this year.

Come out firing on all cylinders in game one. Get a big lead on Ball St. and don't let off the gas. We typically are biting our nails in game one until the 4th quarter.

Keep Leary healthy, but also work in the backup more. If we get a big lead, don't keep Leary in a series or two too long Get the backup, whoever that may be, some reps.

Don't throw the yearly klunker, be it MSU or SC or Mizzou. Beat the teams we should beat.

Have at least one program defining game or moment, Upset Bama or UGA or beat UT once and for all. Would love to see us beat Bama at home with a raucous crowd that will storm the field.
 
Everybody keeps talking about Brown and Key and the WR room depth, but there seems to be one sort of forgotten guy...Tayvion Robinson. People are sleeping on him. He's experienced and can make plays. I think putting him out there with Key and Brown will open up a lot of opportunities for him as defenses key on stopping the other two.
 
Everybody keeps talking about Brown and Key and the WR room depth, but there seems to be one sort of forgotten guy...Tayvion Robinson. People are sleeping on him. He's experienced and can make plays. I think putting him out there with Key and Brown will open up a lot of opportunities for him as defenses key on stopping the other two.
Good point. Phillips mentioned him yesterday when being asked about the receivers, said he is very twitchy and extremely hard to cover. Opponents are going to have an extremely difficult time coming up with a defensive scheme against us this year.
 
Things I want to see this year.

Come out firing on all cylinders in game one. Get a big lead on Ball St. and don't let off the gas. We typically are biting our nails in game one until the 4th quarter.

Keep Leary healthy, but also work in the backup more. If we get a big lead, don't keep Leary in a series or two too long Get the backup, whoever that may be, some reps.

Don't throw the yearly klunker, be it MSU or SC or Mizzou. Beat the teams we should beat.

Have at least one program defining game or moment, Upset Bama or UGA or beat UT once and for all. Would love to see us beat Bama at home with a raucous crowd that will storm the field.
Penalties for "storming the field" are increasing, and UK is beefing up security to put a stop to it. It is a dangerous thing to do because people get hurt. The SEC charges a huge financial penalty for this behavior and it is childish for anyone to put their own impulsive behavior ahead of the financial consequences for the school. So the time has come for arrests. It continues to amaze me how some people encourage this irresponsible behavior and friviloudly risk injuries plus several $$hundred-thousand in UK financial resources. A couple minutes of impulsive childishness are not worth the large penalty. Let's stop acting like a fanbase that doesn't expect to win.

You aren't going to see Stoops stop being Stoops. The approach and philosophy won't change. Talent and execution will keep improving. The impact of White and Coen will be felt. But the foundation and approach of our program are what they have always been since Stoops got here and that won't change. That's why he wins.
 
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Everybody keeps talking about Brown and Key and the WR room depth, but there seems to be one sort of forgotten guy...Tayvion Robinson. People are sleeping on him. He's experienced and can make plays. I think putting him out there with Key and Brown will open up a lot of opportunities for him as defenses key on stopping the other two.
Tayvion Robinson is not forgotten. He did not play well during the SEC portion of our 2022 season. Some of this was undoubtedly due to the player's frustration with the OC. Coach Scan got fired, so it is easy for us to absolve Tayvion now. But Tayvion has to practice better and play harder, or else Anthony Brown will take his job. Anthony Brown is going to be a fantastic player for us. Tayvion Robinson certainly has something to prove this season. The question is whether Anthony Brown is already the better slot receiver.
 
I far prefer the preseason quiet. I think there will more than enough noise made by this team once the season starts.
True enough.

Part of the "preseason quiet" is due to the fact that our team is generally being underrated in most preseason accounts. By now, we should be used to this. As far as I can see, preseason expectations are all about hype but very little about powers of rational observation.

There are a lot of moving parts to a college football team, and none of us really has a very good idea yet what will happen when we actually play TN, AL, and SCar a couple of months from now. That is exactly why the "one game at a time" approach is the right one.
 
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This preseason just seems a tad quieter and laid back than most.

I still hear the conversations when football fans gather, but all of the discussions seem to be sort of “hushed,”
or muted.
True about the quietness. But it isn't just UK.

The guys on the Athlon Cover 2 podcast said yesterday this is one of the quietest fall camps in years nationwide. Maybe after a long offseason of conference switching around everywhere, portal and nil drama, everyone is just sick of talking. Everyone in the sport is just ready to watch & talk about actual on the field action.
 
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If our guys make the next step the sky is the limit. That means next step in all aspects:
Vets Leading, Sophomores set up, Oline stepping up, Dline getting more pressure on the QB, EDGE getting 10 plus sacks, DBacks picking off 7 or more passes this year as a group, QB with a High QB rating, backs hitting their holes and holding on to the ball, receivers running routers but even more so receivers blocking. Penalties at a minimum. Special teams play needs to be 300% better.

I see most of that happening. I really think we are in for a fun year for this team and for us fans.
 
I can’t speak for everyone else, but our first 4 games has really tempered my excitement. I’m certainly going to tune into the first 4 games but we’re more than a month away from a big game or a game that moves the needle interest wise.
 
I can’t speak for everyone else, but our first 4 games has really tempered my excitement. I’m certainly going to tune into the first 4 games but we’re more than a month away from a big game or a game that moves the needle interest wise.
Yes and no. We always play really rough games against inferior teams early. We need to bury them and move on. That will move the needle for me.
 
Everybody keeps talking about Brown and Key and the WR room depth, but there seems to be one sort of forgotten guy...Tayvion Robinson. People are sleeping on him. He's experienced and can make plays. I think putting him out there with Key and Brown will open up a lot of opportunities for him as defenses key on stopping the other two.
I think that is mainly a matter of being injured last year. I agree with you though that he is a proven high level playmaker.
 
Everybody keeps talking about Brown and Key and the WR room depth, but there seems to be one sort of forgotten guy...Tayvion Robinson. People are sleeping on him. He's experienced and can make plays. I think putting him out there with Key and Brown will open up a lot of opportunities for him as defenses key on stopping the other two.
Tayvion needs to take that next step. To hear he missed on a TD in practice because he did not expect Leary to get him the ball is consistent with his rep last year that he did not go 100% on each play. It’s time to be a pro.

AB is getting a lot of praise from his teammates about his maturity and work ethic. I think his RS is burned before the season begins. I also think he will be a versatile WR. I see him lining up outside and inside. I also see Demie lining up at slot.
 
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Tayvion needs to take that next step. To hear he missed on a TD in practice because he did not expect Leary to get him the ball is consistent with his rep last year that he did not go 100% on each play. It’s time to be a pro.

AB is getting a lot of praise from his teammates about his maturity and work ethic. I think his RS is burned before the season begins. I also think he will be a versatile WR. I see him lining up outside and inside. I also see Demie lining up at slot.
Yea, AB will play and probably a lot.

I agree that Demie will suit up at slot and hope that Jutahn does too so as to minimize our lack of depth at WR and to get our numerous playmakers at RB on the field in different ways.
 
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