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Tar Heel fans think the UL punishment bodes well for them

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I agree with their estimation of the net effect (not with their self-delusion about authority overreach) and it really pisses me off.
 
I could see the argument on both sides. On the one hand, this seems to force NCAA's hands because academics should matter more than anything else. On the other hand, this shields them a little from the "NCAA is spineless" argument because they can point to the UofL decision.
 
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If the NCAA vacates the 2013 Championship, UNCheat should be concerned about the 2005 and 2009 banners.

If UofL loses their Banner, you better bet that Tom and Rick will be arguing for why shouldn't the Holes lose theirs.
 
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Whistling past the graveyard. I could not disagree more. You take down a banner because a kid who had not even committed to the program yet got comped to a hooker on a recruiting trip. But you DON'T take down a banner when a kid (Rashad McCants to name one) was given unearned grades in classes never attended to stay eligible while already attending the university? That would strike me as insane. Which kid's eligibility to compete in an NCAA event was most directly affected by the improper behavior?
 
Whistling past the graveyard. I could not disagree more. You take down a banner because a kid who had not even committed to the program yet got comped to a hooker on a recruiting trip. But you DON'T take down a banner when a kid (Rashad McCants to name one) was given unearned grades in classes never attended to stay eligible while already attending the university? That would strike me as insane. Which kid's eligibility to compete in an NCAA event was most directly affected by the improper behavior?
Couldn't agree more. If I was a UNCheat fan, today's ruling would have me more nervous not less.
 
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UNCheat's whole argument is that this is strictly a university academic issue and not an NCAA issue. The Wainstein report should have put that to rest when he stated they were not easy classes but phony ones. Minimum penalty should be forfeiture of all games in which the athletes in question played, so UL penalty would concern me if I was UNCheat fan.
 
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Whistling past the graveyard. I could not disagree more. You take down a banner because a kid who had not even committed to the program yet got comped to a hooker on a recruiting trip. But you DON'T take down a banner when a kid (Rashad McCants to name one) was given unearned grades in classes never attended to stay eligible while already attending the university? That would strike me as insane. Which kid's eligibility to compete in an NCAA event was most directly affected by the improper behavior?


Don't forget the free rental cars provided by a known drug dealer to various players.
 
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One decision may have nothing to do with the other. But, if I were UL, I would tell the NCAA until they see equal treatment to UNC, they will not abide by their decision. I am not supporting UL. I am simply saying that RP (who I know my view is unpopular here) likely didn't know about the strippers and still got a wrist slap, then Ole Roy should have his wrist removed in comparison. The interesting thing is which is worse, strippers for underage recruits (but certainly not babies); or more than a decade of academic fraud where students were made eligible with complete cheating by the University itself and focused on what college is supposed to be about = education (whether that is laughable or not)?
 
One decision may have nothing to do with the other. But, if I were UL, I would tell the NCAA until they see equal treatment to UNC, they will not abide by their decision. I am not supporting UL. I am simply saying that RP (who I know my view is unpopular here) likely didn't know about the strippers and still got a wrist slap, then Ole Roy should have his wrist removed in comparison. The interesting thing is which is worse, strippers for underage recruits (but certainly not babies); or more than a decade of academic fraud where students were made eligible with complete cheating by the University itself and focused on what college is supposed to be about = education (whether that is laughable or not)?
I don't know that UofL can refuse to abide by the penalties. I suppose they could thumb their nose at the NCAA and refuse to take down the banner and continue to reference it in media guides. But if they do all that then the NCAA could refuse to allow their athletics teams to participate in NCAA sanctioned events. In essence they would be giving themselves a death penalty.
 
They can't think that the NCAA finally setting a precedence of vacating a banner is good news for them. I don't think anything will happen to UNC....well to the UNC Men's Basketball program anyway, now the Women's Basketball and any other non major teams may well take the fall for the cheaters when everyone knows that was set up for men's basketball.
 
Been saying the exact same thing for months. Someone was going to fall on the sword here and the NCAA rather it be a small timer in UL as compared to UNC.
 
20 years of academic fraud vs. 4 years of on campus stripper parties. I don't think I'd be feeling too confident if I was UNCheat.
 
Odd logic. If anything, it sounds bad for them to me. You can't come down this hard and then basically ignore the worst academic scandal in history.
I agree but I don't know if the NCAA will. Hookers are way juicier than non-existent paper classes, even if UNC's violations went on longer and were way more far-reaching.
 
If the NCAA goes easy on UNC, the silver lining will be watching UL fans heads explode. Then they cut the cumbayah crap and turn on their "acc brothers"
 
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