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Some real perspective about Coach Dawson, from Clint Trickett

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Seen a very nice article posted, wanted to share it with you guys. As some of you may know, Trickett grew up around coaches, some very good ones. His father is even of offensive line coach at Florida State now (which led to him meeting so many great coaches), but Trickett says, following what was potentially a heisman level year before his season/career ending injury, when he finally got into coaching (he's now a QB coach at East Mississippi C.C.), he says he wants to model his coaching game after Shannon Dawson.
Read the article here, it's worth it.

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...kentucky-coordinator-shannon-dawson/28169959/
 
Seen a very nice article posted, wanted to share it with you guys. As some of you may know, Trickett grew up around coaches, some very good ones. His father is even of offensive line coach at Florida State now (which led to him meeting so many great coaches), but Trickett says, following what was potentially a heisman level year before his season/career ending injury, when he finally got into coaching (he's now a QB coach at East Mississippi C.C.), he says he wants to model his coaching game after Shannon Dawson.
Read the article here, it's worth it.

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...kentucky-coordinator-shannon-dawson/28169959/
Great read thanks!
 
I really like that coming from his last years QB that he had playing at a high level. The fact that Trickett has been around coaches all of his life makes that endorsement even more impressive.

I he can get Towles / or Barkley playing at the level he had Trickett playing at WVU the Cats will be a much improved team.
 
I really like that coming from his last years QB that he had playing at a high level. The fact that Trickett has been around coaches all of his life makes that endorsement even more impressive.

I he can get Towles / or Barkley playing at the level he had Trickett playing at WVU the Cats will be a much improved team.

Means a lot coming from Trickett. The fact that Towles is already feeling that calming presence of Dawson (and he's said as much, before this article) makes it that much more believable. Aside from Brown's poor play calling on occasion, Trickett's reasoning, and Towles' account of Brown's style of coaching has to make you wonder if Brown was a lot of the reason that UK couldn't get tempo going when it wanted to.
 
I think there is a lot to this stuff about "calmness". I play a lot of tennis, and in tennis there is this thing about "getting into the zone" When you are in the zone you aren't really consciously thinking about things, instead your subconscious "muscle memory" takes over and everything is on autopilot. When you are in the zone you play at a high level. The same is true for most any sport. Anyone that has played basketball knows there are times when you just "have it" you know the shot is going in before it even leaves your hand. To get into the zone you have to be clam, if your conscience mind is actively trying to think about the mechanics of what you are doing, or even worse polluted with emotions, it impedes the subconscious and you can't get into the zone. Your performance will not reach a high level.

I think the great sports teams, and great players know how to reach that level and play there most of the time which is what makes them great. Sounds like Coach D is on it, and I think his work will show on the field this year.
 
That was a great article but it was a bit of football fluff I think. One of the greatest coaches of all time, Vince Lombardi, did not present a calm demeanor yet he got the best out of his guys. If you say "Yes but that was then and people are different now", then I give you one Nick Saban, certainly known in this day and age as a volatile coach. Spurrier has certainly seen success! People praise Bobby Petrino for his ability to coach and everybody knows what an assole he can be!

On the other side of the coin is Mark Richt and Tom Landry, so there are a lot of different ways to coach and no one way is the best or only way to find success. People implying Neal Brown was the "fly in the ointment" in Kentucky's offense are looking for excuses. They ignore the fact that last year Kentucky was a very young team in the middle of rebuilding with a Sophmore QB trying to play in the SEC. Those are not excuses, those are facts. I've never really put much stock in a player saying I didn't play well because my coach doesn't understand me, that just comes across to me as a "princess snivel". Football is a game where the players had better strapped it up or the team across the LOS will kick your behind especially in the SEC.

That said I hope Coach Dawson has great success and I also think he will have a better chance this year at Kentucky than if he had been here last year.
 
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That was a great article but it was a bit of football fluff I think. One of the greatest coaches of all time, Vince Lombardi, did not present a calm demeanor yet he got the best out of his guys. If you say "Yes but that was then and people are different now", then I give you one Nick Saban, certainly known in this day and age as a volatile coach. Spurrier has certainly seen success! People praise Bobby Petrino for his ability to coach and everybody knows what an assole he can be!

On the other side of the coin is Mark Richt and Tom Landry, so there are a lot of different ways to coach and no one way is the best or only way to find success. People implying Neal Brown was the "fly in the ointment" in Kentucky's offense are looking for excuses. They ignore the fact that last year Kentucky was a very young team in the middle of rebuilding with a Sophmore QB trying to play in the SEC. Those are not excuses, those are facts. I've never really put much stock in a player saying I didn't play well because my coach doesn't understand me, that just comes across to me as a "princess snivel". Football is a game where the players had better strapped it up or the team across the LOS will kick your behind especially in the SEC.

That said I hope Coach Dawson has great success and I also think he will have a better chance this year at Kentucky than if he had been here last year.


^^^Well Said^^^!
 
Did the article say there was a best way to coach? I think it said that Dawson's way with the players works. I never got the feeling it was excluding other successful methods.

With regard to Brown, if there was an implicit criticism in the article, it came from Towles.
 
Did the article say there was a best way to coach? I think it said that Dawson's way with the players works. I never got the feeling it was excluding other successful methods.

With regard to Brown, if there was an implicit criticism in the article, it came from Towles.

And that's the only thing that matters.
 
I think there may be differences in the way you motivate players at different positions. You might get better performance from some lineman by yelling at them, but I don't see that working with a quarterback.
 
Seen a very nice article posted, wanted to share it with you guys. As some of you may know, Trickett grew up around coaches, some very good ones. His father is even of offensive line coach at Florida State now (which led to him meeting so many great coaches), but Trickett says, following what was potentially a heisman level year before his season/career ending injury, when he finally got into coaching (he's now a QB coach at East Mississippi C.C.), he says he wants to model his coaching game after Shannon Dawson.
Read the article here, it's worth it.

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...kentucky-coordinator-shannon-dawson/28169959/
Good stuff.
 
I think there may be differences in the way you motivate players at different positions. You might get better performance from some lineman by yelling at them, but I don't see that working with a quarterback.

Yeah, an aggressive, amped up QB is less likely to make smart decisions.
I would also wager that Lombardi motivating an NFL team is an entirely different thing than a coach calming a QB down to make smart decisions.
 
Deeeefense and Rhavicc hit it on the head. You want your QB to be calm and poised. Not on edge from being constantly yelled at. Obviously they can and will get yelled at at times. But the bulk of the teaching should be done more of a calm manor. It just makes them more comfortable.
 
That, and if we really wanna be scientific about it, studies show that people are more apt to learn and perform well under positive reinforcement, rather than negative reinforcement and punishment (there is a difference between the two, albeit, a fairly small one).
 
That was a great article but it was a bit of football fluff I think. One of the greatest coaches of all time, Vince Lombardi, did not present a calm demeanor yet he got the best out of his guys. If you say "Yes but that was then and people are different now", then I give you one Nick Saban, certainly known in this day and age as a volatile coach. Spurrier has certainly seen success! People praise Bobby Petrino for his ability to coach and everybody knows what an assole he can be!

On the other side of the coin is Mark Richt and Tom Landry, so there are a lot of different ways to coach and no one way is the best or only way to find success. People implying Neal Brown was the "fly in the ointment" in Kentucky's offense are looking for excuses. They ignore the fact that last year Kentucky was a very young team in the middle of rebuilding with a Sophmore QB trying to play in the SEC. Those are not excuses, those are facts. I've never really put much stock in a player saying I didn't play well because my coach doesn't understand me, that just comes across to me as a "princess snivel". Football is a game where the players had better strapped it up or the team across the LOS will kick your behind especially in the SEC.

That said I hope Coach Dawson has great success and I also think he will have a better chance this year at Kentucky than if he had been here last year.

Lombardi, Saban, Spurrier, Petrino, Richt and Landry are all Head Coaches. Dawson is the QB Coach/OC. Apples and oranges. I'm sure some folks are throwing Brown under the bus but I'm not in that camp. I do think that we had become too predictable formation-wise however. I do know we were fairly limited personnel-wise during Brown's tenure so that may have been what was restricting him. Neal's gone and I'm hoping Shannon can be the QB whisperer and get this offense rolling like we all want to see.
 
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Did the article say there was a best way to coach? I think it said that Dawson's way with the players works. I never got the feeling it was excluding other successful methods.

With regard to Brown, if there was an implicit criticism in the article, it came from Towles.
No, but in this country if you suggest you prefer one method then it automatically means the other method is wrong.
 
Brown came into an awful situation and demonstrated creativity in an attempt to compete without talent. Last fall, he was clear that this coming year was the year the Cats would break of offensively. Towles may respond better to Dawson. That is a good thing. Hopefully, Shannon can get the whole team on the same page and then call plays that exploit the weaknesses of defenses.
 
Lombardi, Saban, Spurrier, Petrino, Richt and Landry are all Head Coaches. Dawson is the QB Coach/OC. Apples and oranges. I'm sure some folks are throwing Brown under the bus but I'm not in that camp. I do think that we had become too predictable formation-wise however. I do know we were fairly limited personnel-wise during Brown's tenure so that may have been what was restricting him. Neal's gone and I'm hoping Shannon can be the QB whisperer and get this offense rolling like we all want to see.

You're right of course but then I don't know position coaches history like that of head coaches. I think my premise about different approaches can be successful still applies. Even if I'm gun blazing nuts ideas about different coaches gets similar results, I cannot for the life of me begin to fathom anybody that does not understand Dawson is walking into a very much different and better situation than Brown did. I want Dawson to have a great deal of success, but if he does it won't be without a good deal of groundwork laid here for two years by Neal Brown. As far as Towles goes he needs to concentrate on his peripheral vision and progressions far more than than his coaching critique IMO. To be fair he was a So last year.
 
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