FB Recruiting Should UK fans be worried about a late season collapse?
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A little late to the party DT...this isn't the first rodeo for this happening with Henderson
OUTSTANDING article, really hit the nail on the head ! Those stats after April 1 are disturbing !
I did and I think it is only further proof that after the season, unless the team makes a dramatic turn around that a coaching change desperately needs to be made and MB and the powers that be need to have construction of the new stadium up and going to be able to attract the best candidate possible
LOL slugger.....those who followed and knew baseball saw this coming years ago. Welcome aboard Mr. Terry. Better late than never.
Derek, is it your sense being around the program that Mitch is willing to fire GH? Or is this just wishful fan thinking on our part?
BUT, with the wording MB spins around the funding I doubt that either will be done anytime soon and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see GH get a vote of confidence and praise along with an extension on his contract.
I think it's wishful thinking it would happen after this season. If the team doesn't make the tournament and also struggle next season then I could see a change being made.
I think the fans should turn up the heat BIG TIME if we don't make the NCAA tournament this season, NO excuses after the great start to SEC play !
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We are at a spot right now where something has to happen this offseason. He either needs to get an extension (please no!) or he needs to see the writing on the wall and try to move on. It doesn't make sense for him to go into the last year of his contract with no plan and hoping to get an extension. It makes a lot more sense for him to play out this year and then shop himself around for new jobs. Then, Barnhart doesn't technically have to fire him. He can kind of push him out the door without actually firing him. This, IMO, would be the best way for this to go and could be how it happens. Basically, Barnhart and Henderson have their annual meeting for performance review and at that meeting it should be clear that Henderson isn't going to get an extension after this year's terrible performance. Then, Henderson has to be dense as hell not to understand that he's going to have to have a damn good year next year to be retained and that it might be better to have his agent shop him around for a new job rather than getting outright fired.
Last year of a contract with no extension=0 recruiting power
I don't follow college baseball nearly as close as MLB, but believe it is wishful thinking that any former big league manager is going to take the UK job, especially one as young as Green who could get another job in some other big league system.
Ordinarily you would be right, but Andy has a lot of love for the state and UK. He would make a great living, $600-700,000/year, more if highly successful, not as much as MLB but being happy means a great deal ie. Rick Eckstein went from the Angels to UK.
If he flops he doesn't have the name recognition as other guys to survive.
Would he (if Padres don't work out) rather become a MLB hitting or bench coach/farm system coach, or head coach at alma mater? Only he knows, but I'd guess there'd be a tough decision to make.
I totally agree, but I'll better got a better chance of selling you the Golden Gate Bridge before it happens by then
good man but awful head coach............................is there a coach out there that's on fire............please Mitch, some of us really love baseball....we lack any fight in are players and never seem to have good hitters........it's time for a change.....keep Hendy as pitching coach if you can't say leave...............
...I want to come back and watch some games with season tickets.......
...I want to come back and watch some games with season tickets.......
Minor sports at UK get very little attention.
As much as I hate UL & Jurich I will give him credit for getting their minor sports into
a very competitive advantage
We have some success despite the actions pf Mitch. Girls softball comes to mind.
We make bad hires, because of money?, or just don't care for the minor sports.
IMO Mitch is an average AD at best. To political correct & non inspiring.
I have to disagree. Our athletic department as a whole has never been better than it is under Barnhart. It could definitely be better, but we have to give him credit for moving us in the right direction and no longer ignoring the non-revenue sports.
Umm we just built brand new soccer, softball, and track and field stadiums. Both men's and women's tennis made the NCAA tournament. Volleyball was in the top 20 for the entire season. Men's soccer won their conference. Women's soccer made the NCAA tournament and has a top 10 class coming in. Women's track is #1 in the nation. Do some research before you write idiotic posts like that.
Henderson seems to be a great guy but it's time for him and the Cats part ways. Another collapse and the losses to instate schools (Not U of L) are unacceptable. SEC Is brutal but we lose a lot of games we should win.
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Womens track has arrived, volleyball has been good for a few years, & softball is outstanding.
Have sustained success in WB but it is now a train wreck.
Had some success with mens tennis a few years back with coach Embry & the same with
baseball under coach Choen.
A few good years is really not progress. We have never been able to sustain a competitive
position in these sports over a period of time & maybe that's turning. I hope so.
Not an idiotic post just fact. A few good teams now & then is not progress.
We have sustained a competitive position in several sports, but you choose to ignore it. Just a fact.
Mens' tennis just competed in the NCAA tourney for the 26th time, Women also made the NCAA's. Volleyball has made the tourney several consecutive times. WB also has, but is in the midst of controversy. Rifle won the NC in 2010. Men's golf is usually pretty good, Women's Track and Field was NCAA runner up last year, as is ranked # 1.
Baseball and Football have had success at times, but not on a consistent basis, Rachel Lawson is the Rupp of Softball, currently a # 9 National seed.
I have to say, this argument is kind of annoying. For one moment in our football history we had a top-tier football program. Even during that time basketball was king. It is not the fault of Barnhart that this has continued. He has done more than many past ADs to promote football. Might not be enough, but he's still actually seemed to give two shits about the program. In fact, he's the only AD that I know of that has seemed to care about more than just basketball. Unfortunately, basketball is all that most of our fans care about, and so it is still the tail that wags the dog. Can't blame Mitch for a culture that has been in place for decades.
Yeah Mitch has been by far the most diverse AD in UK history. He has built up the ignored Olympic sports BIG time. He has hired 1 good football coach, although most didn't think so at the time, but Rich Brooks got us interested, and playing in multiple Bowl games. The difference in CRB and his successors, is a lot of previous HC experience. Mitches' hires of Cohen, Brooks, Lawson, Floreal, Mitchell, Calipari etc. have been solid and spectacular !
I have a story set to run in the morning in which a former head coach at UK really appreciates Mitch Barnhart. It's a story on the neglect UK baseball went through prior to Barnhart's hiring. Think you all will really find it interesting.
