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Serious question. Why did Lamar Jackson win the heisman? Even if you just count regular season, why?

Dec 13, 2016
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i know it's a regular season trophy. But even when you look at the regular season and even a head to head between the 2. Deshaun Watson was head and shoulders a better player had a better season, won more games, etc. Lamar Jackson IMO is BY FAR the most undeserving heisman trophy winner in the history of the game and there is no close second. I'll just never understand how someone as undeserving as Lamar Jackson won that award. THEY BEAT ONE RANKED TEAM. LOST TO UK AT HOME!!! Played as weak of a schedule as anyone on a P5 team could possibly play.

At least everyone in the country realizes though he won the heisman he was way way behind deshaun Watson for best player this season and isn't even half the player Watson is. This has to be the first time ever that not a single fan, outside the city of Louisville of course, truly believes the heisman winner is the best player in the country and in any way deserving. I understand it was a weird year for the heisman and he almost won by default because there wasn't that one player this season like every other year that separates themselves so kinda like the NFL MVP this season they're just handing it to someone because they had to.

This season, for the first time in maybe ever. The heisman winner was not even close to the best player this season and the margin isn't even that close. Look at the schedule, look at the signature wins (I mean win), look at the head to head. There hasn't been a more undeserving heisman winner in the history of the game. I just don't know why Watson, who won head to head. Wasn't handed it by default for beating multiple good teams as apposed to just one good win and apparently that was enough for a heisman trophy? Pfft. Spare me.
 
The Houston and UK games should have done him in when it came to the Heisman. That clown, Jackson, can't even speak proper English for crying out loud. Hell, he can barely talk period.
 
Watson/Clemson slept walked through most of the regular season ... should have lost to Troy and NC State (not to mention Florida State and Louisville) in addition to Pittsburgh and Watson looked pretty bad at times in the process.

They turned it on when it mattered and Watson is amazing, but that's why he didn't win the Heisman.

Here's some random article from fairly late in the season:

"1. Clemson's offense is still MIA: We're halfway through the 2016 season and what should be a historically great offense continues to struggle to find itself ... and the end zone. More and more, that 42-36 win over Louisville looks like an anomaly. Clemson put up points against Boston College and South Carolina State, but far too often they've struggled to move the ball. Ranking 109th in giveaways hasn't exactly helped matters, either. Ball security was an issue last season, but Clemson survived it. Can they do it this time around?"

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...d-advance-against-nc-state/amp/?client=safari
 
Watson/Clemson slept walked through most of the regular season ... should have lost to Troy and NC State (not to mention Florida State and Louisville) in addition to Pittsburgh and Watson looked pretty bad at times in the process.

They turned it on when it mattered and Watson is amazing, but that's why he didn't win the Heisman.

Here's some random article from fairly late in the season:

"1. Clemson's offense is still MIA: We're halfway through the 2016 season and what should be a historically great offense continues to struggle to find itself ... and the end zone. More and more, that 42-36 win over Louisville looks like an anomaly. Clemson put up points against Boston College and South Carolina State, but far too often they've struggled to move the ball. Ranking 109th in giveaways hasn't exactly helped matters, either. Ball security was an issue last season, but Clemson survived it. Can they do it this time around?"

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...d-advance-against-nc-state/amp/?client=safari
See. But the point is all moot because he had a great regular season. Regardless of the 'slept walk' theme or not. He was a finalist for a reason. When factor in head to head, SOS, signature wins and UL's losses to Houston and UK should have more than done him in. I've heard many times about Watson's TO's. Jackson was right behind Watson in the ball security/TO department. But the thing that gets me most about it. He beat one good team at home. He had one good win, and 2 bad losses. Never will I believe a player who plays that weak of a schedule and only beats one ranked team and loses in a head to head to another finalist. Should deserve that award. Especially finishing the season the way he did. Defensive players deserved it more than him this season. He's just simply the most undeserving heisman winner in the history of the game and it's not even close. At least Clemson had more than one good win this season. JMO.
 
Jackson did better than everyone all season until the Houston game and Watson hadn't done anything wild to surpass him. Louisville looked like trash their last three games while Watson played great in the semis and national title but at the time, we didn't have that luxury.

If I'm not mistaken, Watson had a lot of turnovers, right?

Jackson is lucky that they don't wait until the end of the season to hand out the Heisman though because he definitely wouldn't get it.
 
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Why are you that butt hurt over Lamar Jackson winning the heisman? Showing your insecurity a little. He had a great season.

Put together a list of the last 30 heisman winners and you'll see quite a few turds on it.
No it's undeserved. He didn't deserve it. Simple as that. I keep hearing about all of Watson's regular season TO's. But anyone care to compare Watson's to Jackson's? Because if you do, you can't use that as a reason Jackson won. He just simply wasn't the best player in the regular season, especially when you look at the quality of wins, the finish to the season, and the head to head in which Watson outplayed Jackson (not by much but he did and won). Another finalist beat him, and won the the conference in which they both played in, won more games, had more good wins.

Not an insecurity as much as it is the facts of the situation don't really add up to Jackson winning the heisman with a very weak schedule and more bad losses than quality wins (quality win, he had one good win). I just don't see how thru the course of a 12 game season, that one good win can win a man a heisman. And people like to talk about Watson sleep walking thru the regular season, what did UL do vs UVA and Duke? It's obviously the worst year in the history of the award for a QB with one quality win to win this 'prestigious' award. It takes a lot of the prestige out of the award when someone like Jackson wins it with one quality win, AND finishes season on 2 game losing streak (both unranked teams) when before his team was in playoff contention. With all these facts, how is it me being insecure with all this evidence to support the case. Damn give it to peppers so it can at least feel like a deserving player won it if not Watson.
 
Watson won head to head because quick wasn't man enough to pick up the first down otherwise UofL wins that game st Clemson. Jackson may not have finished strong but he played that well up until the Houston game that he had built up an insurmountable lead.
 
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Jackson deserved the Heisman, and if you say he didn't, it's just butt hurt he's a Card or your just trolling. Watson deserved a Heisman also. A lot of years he would have won it. Clemson was the better team but Jackson was more important to his team and did more individually to help his team win. I think it came down to that.
 
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Not a Cards fan by any stretch, in fact I hate all things UL with all my being.
Jackson was far from the worst Heisman ever. Too many to try to even list.
The stupidest thing ever, is that the voting for the best college football player all takes place before the most important part of the season even happens, to say nothing about the playoffs.
As far as how he talks, come on, he is just a sophomore, who by all appearances, is a good kid who didn't come from a privileged background.
I'm sure if you asked Watson, he is more than happy to let Jackson have the Heisman and he'll keep the National Championship.
 
Watson/Clemson slept walked through most of the regular season ... should have lost to Troy and NC State (not to mention Florida State and Louisville) in addition to Pittsburgh and Watson looked pretty bad at times in the process.

They turned it on when it mattered and Watson is amazing, but that's why he didn't win the Heisman.

Here's some random article from fairly late in the season:

"1. Clemson's offense is still MIA: We're halfway through the 2016 season and what should be a historically great offense continues to struggle to find itself ... and the end zone. More and more, that 42-36 win over Louisville looks like an anomaly. Clemson put up points against Boston College and South Carolina State, but far too often they've struggled to move the ball. Ranking 109th in giveaways hasn't exactly helped matters, either. Ball security was an issue last season, but Clemson survived it. Can they do it this time around?"

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...d-advance-against-nc-state/amp/?client=safari
Another good reason to give the Heisman after all bowl games are played, sometimes the cream doesn't rise until the heats on.
 
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Jackson deserved the Heisman, and if you say he didn't, it's just butt hurt he's a Card or your just trolling. Watson deserved a Heisman also. A lot of years he would have won it. Clemson was the better team but Jackson was more important to his team and did more individually to help his team win. I think it came down to that.
I would argue Watson is more important to his team. But it doesn't matter because Watson has been celebrating a National Championship all night long.
 
watson will succeed in life while Jackson will not. Watson will make it in the NFL while Jackson will not. Watson has won a national championship while Jackson will not. Watson is the all around better person and player. The voting committee really really messed this up.
 
One reason....his leap over the Syracuse defender in the second game of the season while putting up 59+ points in the first four games. Iconic photo that sealed the deal early in the season.
 
Ask any player which trophy they would rather have. Heisman or Championship.
Championship is the answer.
 
He came in with a lot of momentum and hype and got off to such a hot start.

LJ was the only show when UL played...5,6,7 TDs on his own. Deshaun was on a better team with a great D and better play makers around him, so his greatness wasn't always front and center.

I think the productivity and play making on the ground was the difference. LJ had a great season on the ground for a RB with 1500 yds and 21 tds...he was top 10 in rushing yds and TDs...to put that in perspective, benny and boom together had 20 tds on the ground...
 
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I'd commented the day before the Heisman announcement that Watson should've been the winner. He'd finished 3d in '15, had a better year this year than '15, beat Jackson head to head but the ESPN kingmakers saw it differently. And it was ESPN that carried his banner all year. Jackson made them look downright foolish. So now Jackson has a tarnished award but Watson has a NC, I imagine Watson's fine with that.
 
Padded numbers from a cupcake schedule that the voters fell for..simple..Watson IMO was much more deserving ( showed that last night ) ..We saw what Jackson did against a defense with a heartbeat.
Was it one win against a winning record team?
 
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Jackson was outdueled by 3 QBs in losses (Watson, Ward and S Johnson)...I think that should've knocked him off the top spot and that is still just considering the regular season.

I just cant imagine a Heisman winner not even being the best player (based on that game) at said position in 25% of his season.
 
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The original poster Lost all shreds of credibility when he said Jackson is the worst Heisman winner ever. That's just retarded
 
This clown was doing Heisman poses against UK and now you have UK fans kissing his ass more than the ESPN commentators did for the entire game (Against UK)..gimme a break. Pathetic.

"No. 11 Louisville was struggling with Kentucky on Saturday. But things looked OK when Lamar Jackson, in his last game before bowl season, ran in for a touchdown and struck a Heisman Trophy pose. ... With the score still tied, Jackson fumbled on UK's 10-yard line with less than two minutes to play and #11 Louisville lost the game as a result."
 
When Lamar faltered late in the season, there really wasn't a viable alternative other than Watson. Lamar was the majority of UL's offense and played with a crappy OL. Watson had a +1,000 yard RB and some of the best WRs in the country to help him. Lamar deserved it.
 
Because we live in a highlight world. Watson was winning games and putting up insane stats. Jackson was too, to an extent, and making highlight reel plays.

That's the difference
 
It is beyond my comprehension why he won it over Watson. It just shows you sports is all about HYPE and politics is all about what the media WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE.

No way Lamar is justified to win that.
 
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