Second team to lose in OT(s) at Kansas this year...

[MdWIldcat55]

The first one was Oklahoma, currently ranked No. 1 in the country. I think both teams beat Kansas rather easily on a neutral court. Oklahoma will get them at home, so we'll get a chance to see. I hope Kentucky gets them in a late round of the tournament.

I watched the Kansas-Oklahoma game. Kansas didn't play nearly as well as they did last night. And, probably because it was a conference game, the whistle was not nearly as lopsided. It took their A-plus game, 24 extra free throws and Selden having the game of his life, to beat Kentucky.

No excuses. The Cats could have, and maybe should have won the game. That few minutes right at the mid point at the second half when UK went several possessions without getting good looks was decisive. I'd have to go back and look at the plays closely to see exactly what happened but it seemed Murray was having trouble getting the ball. And I remember Cal during that stretch exhorting Poythress and Lee to slash to the basket after Ulis penetrated.

But still about 50 days until the meat of the tournament. Ask yourself this: Which team will get better, the one whose entire offense flows through three freshmen guards still learning to play together, and with a freshman center just starting to get it, or the one dominated by seniors and juniors?

 

[kyjeff1]

Agree with everything you said. I'm very excited about where this team is right now. UK 2011 and UK 2014 doesn't come anywhere near close to winning that game at this time if year. This team is ahead of both of those teams and will be a serious threat to not only get to a final four but win the whole thing.
I really like where these guys are. Tyler is blowing my mind.

 

[irishcat1965]

The first step is beating UT on the road Tuesday. Knoxvegas is always a dangerous place to play. If UK wins that game the next two are at home giving UK a chance to build some real momentum heading to South Carolina.

 

[McThick]

The first one was Oklahoma, currently ranked No. 1 in the country. I think both teams beat Kansas rather easily on a neutral court. Oklahoma will get them at home, so we'll get a chance to see. I hope Kentucky gets them in a late round of the tournament.

I watched the Kansas-Oklahoma game. Kansas didn't play nearly as well as they did last night. And, probably because it was a conference game, the whistle was not nearly as lopsided. It took their A-plus game, 24 extra free throws and Selden have the game of his life, to beat Kentucky.

No excuses. The Cats could have, and maybe should have won the game. That few minutes right at the mid point at the second half when UK went several possessions without getting good looks was decisive. I'd have to go back and look at the plays closely to see exactly what happened but it seemed Murray was having trouble getting the ball. And I remember Cal during that stretch exhorting Poythress and Lee to slash to the basket after Ulis penetrated.

But still about 50 days until the meat of the tournament. Ask yourself this: Which team will get better, the one whose entire offense flows through three freshmen guards still learning to play together, and with a freshman center just starting to get it, or the one dominated by seniors and juniors?

That was far,from Kansas's A game, Ellis wasn't a factor due to fouls and he's usually their leading scorer

 

[irishcat1965]

That was far,from Kansas's A game, Ellis wasn't a factor due to fouls and he's usually their leading scorer

Please. Don't speak to us about fouls. It was total joke.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

That was far,from Kansas's A game, Ellis wasn't a factor due to fouls and he's usually their leading scorer

It was their A game relative to their potential against Kentucky. The Cats always have players capable of shutting down Ellis.

 

[kyjeff1]

That was far,from Kansas's A game, Ellis wasn't a factor due to fouls and he's usually their leading scorer

Yeah and Wayne Seldon ALWAYS scores 33 points in 1 game. Got it.
GTFOH.

 

[docholiday51]

The first step is beating UT on the road Tuesday. Knoxvegas is always a dangerous place to play. If UK wins that game the next two are at home giving UK a chance to build some real momentum heading to South Carolina.

I think this is key,how do we come out of this game? Have we turned the corner with this team?This 3 game set that starts Tuesday will tell us more about this team going forward. A Cat fan has to like how we competed at Kansas,a tough place to play against a top 5 team that was motivated to try and beat the hell out of us if they could and the best they could do was escape with a win in OT.

I hope this team has grown enough to get back to the conference grind and take care of business

 

[Schwagg]

KU gets 3 more wins than they deserve every year. I have been saying this for 15 years. Therefore, KU is over seeded & over-hyped come tournament time & that is why they get beat by the Bradley's & Bucknell's when it counts. They r the most over-rated team every year because of the wins given to them.

 

[McThick]

Yeah and Wayne Seldon ALWAYS scores 33 points in 1 game. Got it.
GTFOH.

They said his previous career high was 25 or 26, so 33 is not out of the question, and didn't Tyler have his career night or close to it last night

 

[Rhavicc]

That was far,from Kansas's A game, Ellis wasn't a factor due to fouls and he's usually their leading scorer

Poythress has done great on Ellis defensively both times they've played against each other. Foul trouble is the last thing you need to bring up.

 

[Dallas-Wild]

That was far,from Kansas's A game, Ellis wasn't a factor due to fouls and he's usually their leading scorer

OMG you're so right....DAM Perry had to finish the game with 3 fouls...bet the pressure was killing you.

Actually was called for 1 in the 2nd half...that must have cost someone some $$$

 

[kartmd]

They said his previous career high was 25 or 26, so 33 is not out of the question, and didn't Tyler have his career night or close to it last night

You obviously haven't been watching Ulis much. He's put up those numbers on a very consistent basis, at home and away. Selden...not so much. I lived in KC for 5 years and got to see several games at AFH. Hands down, it's the best environment to watch a game and definitely the best home court advantage in the nation. That being said, it's no wonder KU flames out every year. As the other poster already noted, AFH artificially inflates KU's abilities and rankings and yet for some reason KU fans always scratch their head after they get bounced by a mid-major the first weekend.

 

[kyjeff1]

They said his previous career high was 25 or 26, so 33 is not out of the question, and didn't Tyler have his career night or close to it last night

Tyler did what he has done the last 4 games.
Perry Ellis was shut down but so was Murray. Yeah Ellis had to sit for most of the first half but our entire frontcourt had to play scared the entire second half but it didn't work, the refs still called them for every touch foul. That crap doesn't happen on a neutral court. No way.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

The first one was Oklahoma, currently ranked No. 1 in the country. I think both teams beat Kansas rather easily on a neutral court. Oklahoma will get them at home, so we'll get a chance to see. I hope Kentucky gets them in a late round of the tournament.

I watched the Kansas-Oklahoma game. Kansas didn't play nearly as well as they did last night. And, probably because it was a conference game, the whistle was not nearly as lopsided. It took their A-plus game, 24 extra free throws and Selden having the game of his life, to beat Kentucky.

No excuses. The Cats could have, and maybe should have won the game. That few minutes right at the mid point at the second half when UK went several possessions without getting good looks was decisive. I'd have to go back and look at the plays closely to see exactly what happened but it seemed Murray was having trouble getting the ball. And I remember Cal during that stretch exhorting Poythress and Lee to slash to the basket after Ulis penetrated.

But still about 50 days until the meat of the tournament. Ask yourself this: Which team will get better, the one whose entire offense flows through three freshmen guards still learning to play together, and with a freshman center just starting to get it, or the one dominated by seniors and juniors?

Great post.

Skal, Willis, Briscoe, and Murray will all continue to improve. Meanwhile, Ellis, Mason, and Selden are who they are (they are all very good players, but I think we've seen the best from all three of them already). The only play I see improving for Kansas is Bragg, and I'm not sure how much of a leash Self will give him.

The only team I feel is a bad matchup up for Kentucky come March is UNC because of multiple interior threats. I'd actually prefer a region featuring Kansas. We matchup well with them, and like you said, we will only get better over the next 50 days whereas I feel they've already hit their ceiling.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

That was far,from Kansas's A game, Ellis wasn't a factor due to fouls and he's usually their leading scorer

You don't need Perry at his best when you shoot 46 free throws. The one negates the other. That's basic logic. That said, factoring in the free throws and Selden's performance, that's about as good as Kansas plays.

I'd be very nervous if I was a Kansas fan. Looks like a bad, reoccurring dream all over again. "Beware the ides of March" should actually be "Beware the Mid-majors of March" if you're a Kansas fans.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Please. Don't speak to us about fouls. It was total joke.

It's hilarious that KU fans are trying to justify that butchery from Saturday.

 

[Nubb16]

Oklahoma made 48 3's and still lost there.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Oklahoma made 48 3's and still lost there.

Yeah, 16/32 and they lost. They also had a +1 FT advantage, although like in our game, KU got double digits to 0 to end the game on the FT count.

 

[khuff80]

The first one was Oklahoma, currently ranked No. 1 in the country. I think both teams beat Kansas rather easily on a neutral court. Oklahoma will get them at home, so we'll get a chance to see. I hope Kentucky gets them in a late round of the tournament.

I watched the Kansas-Oklahoma game. Kansas didn't play nearly as well as they did last night. And, probably because it was a conference game, the whistle was not nearly as lopsided. It took their A-plus game, 24 extra free throws and Selden having the game of his life, to beat Kentucky.

No excuses. The Cats could have, and maybe should have won the game. That few minutes right at the mid point at the second half when UK went several possessions without getting good looks was decisive. I'd have to go back and look at the plays closely to see exactly what happened but it seemed Murray was having trouble getting the ball. And I remember Cal during that stretch exhorting Poythress and Lee to slash to the basket after Ulis penetrated.

But still about 50 days until the meat of the tournament. Ask yourself this: Which team will get better, the one whose entire offense flows through three freshmen guards still learning to play together, and with a freshman center just starting to get it, or the one dominated by seniors and juniors?

***Both teams had players who probably had their best games of the year....AND both teams had players who didn't do as much as they normally or at least recently had been doing.

Ulis & Selden had magical games.

Willis & Ellis seemed conspicuously absent.

UK looked better w/ complimentary players after their top player w/ the contributions from J. Murray throughout the game & Briscoe from the 1st half & Poythress in the 2nd half.

Bragg and/or Greene seemed to be the one to give the most off the Bench from either side.

The fouls were pretty bad and lopsided - seemed to overcompensate for starting off pretty heavily in UK's favor the first maybe 7-8 mins. or so when fouls were something like 8-2 in UK's favor.

Having said that, KU wasn't really taking advantage in terms of hitting the FTs - at least not really so much until Overtime.

I would not say that the game was either team's "best game of the year" albeit it was most definitely Wayne Selden's best game.

 

[khuff80]

It was their A game relative to their potential against Kentucky. The Cats always have players capable of shutting down Ellis.

***Inside maybe, but he was used as a decoy quite often in that game which helped lead to some of Selden's offense.

 

[khuff80]

You obviously haven't been watching Ulis much. He's put up those numbers on a very consistent basis, at home and away. Selden...not so much. I lived in KC for 5 years and got to see several games at AFH. Hands down, it's the best environment to watch a game and definitely the best home court advantage in the nation. That being said, it's no wonder KU flames out every year. As the other poster already noted, AFH artificially inflates KU's abilities and rankings and yet for some reason KU fans always scratch their head after they get bounced by a mid-major the first weekend.

***LMFAO!!!! Dude, Sat. night's foul fest & FTA-fest was an ANOMALY though. Last year KU was something like 6th or 7th in the CONFERENCE (and that being a 10-team conference AT THAT) in FTAs per game at home!!!! I'd HARDLY call that "gifting" games or such.

 

[khuff80]

You don't need Perry at his best when you shoot 46 free throws. The one negates the other. That's basic logic. That said, factoring in the free throws and Selden's performance, that's about as good as Kansas plays.

I'd be very nervous if I was a Kansas fan. Looks like a bad, reoccurring dream all over again. "Beware the ides of March" should actually be "Beware the Mid-majors of March" if you're a Kansas fans.

***I'll admit....I tend to feel like they lose to a team like Dayton in the 2nd Round or something.

 

[khuff80]

Yeah, 16/32 and they lost. They also had a +1 FT advantage, although like in our game, KU got double digits to 0 to end the game on the FT count.

***Um, ok - and at least that game they went to 3 OT's.

They made 17-32 in Ames AND LOST BY 5 in REGULATION!!!!

 

[kyjeff1]

***Both teams had players who probably had their best games of the year....AND both teams had players who didn't do as much as they normally or at least recently had been doing.

Ulis & Selden had magical games.

Willis & Ellis seemed conspicuously absent.

UK looked better w/ complimentary players after their top player w/ the contributions from J. Murray throughout the game & Briscoe from the 1st half & Poythress in the 2nd half.

Bragg and/or Greene seemed to be the one to give the most off the Bench from either side.

The fouls were pretty bad and lopsided - seemed to overcompensate for starting off pretty heavily in UK's favor the first maybe 7-8 mins. or so when fouls were something like 8-2 in UK's favor.

Having said that, KU wasn't really taking advantage in terms of hitting the FTs - at least not really so much until Overtime.

I would not say that the game was either team's "best game of the year" albeit it was most definitely Wayne Selden's best game.

It's not so much about the amount of free throw attempts that KU took, it's more about how UK's bigs had to play defense once they got into foul trouble. KU's bigs were never in foul trouble in the second half, they never had to let up on defense, UK's bigs had to play defense on their heels for most of the second half. How many points do you think KU benefited from that?
Do you believe that if the game was played on a neutral court the the foul calls would still favor KU by that much?