SEC West
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I predict they will be overrated again just like they were last year, I don't know who will win it. But I think it could be someone outside the state of Alabama.
Overrated? Ha.
I predict they all beat up on each other, and the winner goes 10-2.
They went 2-5 in their bowl games last year, UGA wore out the 2 west teams we played, one of which was ranked number 3 a couple weeks earlier, the other shut out LSU and OM back to back. So yeah, they were overrated, their big wins were against each other and after the bowl games those didn't look real big. And we were far from a great team last year but I think we could have gone 6-1 in the west, unless we pull a UF game alone the way. Bama was the only team over there that was better than a little above average.
Wait. Bowl season is now representative of an entire season? The outcome of one game in a 13 game season is what determines if a team - nay, an entire division - is overrated?
I'm surprised to hear that from a Georgia fan whose team lost a single game to South Carolina (...and also Florida) last season. Convenient for them their entire season isn't judged on that one game.
EDIT: and while I appreciate your optimism (I'm a UK football fan after all!), you think UGA goes 6-1 in the SEC West last year even though the 'Dawgs lost to South Carolina and Florida?
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Wait. Bowl season is now representative of an entire season? The outcome of one game in a 13 game season is what determines if a team - nay, an entire division - is overrated?
I'm surprised to hear that from a Georgia fan whose team lost a single game to South Carolina last season. Convenient for them their entire season isn't judged on that one game.
Whats hard to understand about the being overrated, MSST was number 1 in the country, struggled against UK, finished the season 10-3 with losses to 2 west teams, they did beat the 4 ooc cupcakes, finished 10-3, OM lost to LSU, AU, shut out by Arky and blown out by TCU finished 9-4. Arky finished 7-6, the rest were 8-5. Hardly dominating
As it turned out, our season was determined by the loss to USC. Bobo made the dumbest called he has made in 12 years as OC when we had a chance to take the lead late with 1st and goal from the 4, with a healthy Gurley, alone with Chubb. he calls a naked bootleg and we are hit with intentional grounding. 2 passes later we attempt a FG. He took the ball out of maybe the best player in college last year hand's, Gurley, and put it in the hands of the least effective guy on the team. We might not have scored, but if I were calling plays, they have to tackle Gurley 4 times inside the 5. If they could they deserved to win, but he didn't get a touch.
Your argument, mostly.
I'll give you marks for consistency though. You generalize UGA's entire season being determined by a single bad play call. I guess for you anecdotal evidence is everything. Cool.
I don't really think they are overrated, I just think by the end of that gauntlet they are beat up. Their bowl performance last year wasn't indicative of their performance throughout the season.
No way to predict with any accuracy but I do think the West winner may be a 6-2 team this year winning on a tie break due to the parity of the West. AS much parity as there was last year in that division I think this year it will be even closer.
Great defenses and great backs with Noone outside Dak that anyone would want to be their qb this year. If you can stop the run and score td's then you can beat almost any team in the west this year. A&M and aub will be the only 2 teams that score more points than possessions.
Johnson is hyped as the next Big thing at Auburn. Until he plays, we will not know.
He has played, and he looked really good playing. Think Auburns starter Marshall was suspended a game.
At least one, maybe 2. The SEC West in some ways it's is own worst enemy. OTOH they sort of have the predetermined destiny thing going for them. As long as the games they lose are to one another they'll still be highly thought of. I read a story on a national site (likely CBS or ESPN) that predicted every team in the division would be ranked at some point this year.
It's happening to the entire SEC. In the East you've got Florida and Georgia, long programs which have excelled along with UT who appears finally back on the rise. Missouri which has joined the SEC and promptly won the East it's first 2 years. Add to that USC who's had darn good success under Spurrier and will no doubt look to continue it when he leaves, and now UK with aspirations of joining the party. That's 13 teams with desires to win the SEC and get into the play-off. The SEC is becoming like the NFL, where in any given game despite the records either team can win.
It's happening to the entire SEC. In the East you've got Florida and Georgia, long programs which have excelled along with UT who appears finally back on the rise. Missouri which has joined the SEC and promptly won the East it's first 2 years. Add to that USC who's had darn good success under Spurrier and will no doubt look to continue it when he leaves, and now UK with aspirations of joining the party. That's 13 teams with desires to win the SEC and get into the play-off. The SEC is becoming like the NFL, where in any given game despite the records either team can win.
He played very well in the first half against Ark when Marshall sat and if that is indicative of how he plays week in and week out in the SEC when DC's get film, he will be very good. But, it is his first year as the full-time stater. So, who knows?
When the SEC has good bowl seasons we all point to how strong the conference is, but when we have a down bowl season we want to say its because we were beat up from playing each other? Can't have it both ways, either its an indicator of conference strength or its not, can't be just when we do well
Alabama is certainly the safe bet, defensively they are the best up front, but teams with mobile qbs give them problems especially the last few years, games they lost have all had mobile qbs who could pass a little.
In your opinion, what determines conference strength? Is it what the do inside their conference, or division in this case or what it does when playing outside the conference? If you include all the wins over directional schools the West looks pretty strong, but when you look at their record against other P5 conferences, it wasn't much to brag about. I will agree any team from the West could have won the Sunbelt, 1 or 2 might have won the ACC and maybe the Pac12, but none of them would have won the Big12 or Big10. That wasn't the case 2 years ago, I don't understand why its so hard to accept the SEC is just down from where it was a couple years ago, QB play was way down conference wide with only 3-4 teams having good qb play heading into this season too. I wouldn't be shocked to see the SEC champion with 2 losses this season.
Yes, that single play kept us out of the SEC championship game, just like that single play against UF where the officials allowed them to kick a FG after time ran out kept UK from making a bowl last year. One play can and has determined seasons. 2 seasons ago, Bama begging for a couple more seconds on the clock to try a long FG that was short and run back for a TD allowed AU to get to the NC game.
The UGA fan's argument is silly. He is basing the whole season on a few bowl games. By his logic the SEC East was the better division, and should have had a team in the playoff. He sounds like one of these dumb OSU fans that say TCU should have gotten into the playoff over ALABAMA last year lol. The SEC West dominated the OOC and against the east head to head. That all added up together is more impressive than a few bowl game results. UGA fan sounds like a Big Ten fan with that logic.
No where did I suggest the East was better or should have been in the playoffs. The tOSU fans best be glad TCU didn't get in the playoffs because they might have showed them they were the best team. Yes, the west won more games against the East than they lost, by a 10-4 margin. No one is saying the East hasn't been down, it has. My logic is backed up by on field results, if you , going 6-5 against P5 teams isn't exactly showing dominance, 2 of those wins against the same WV team. If you count all the wins against those directional schools, MAC and SUNBELT teams it was impressive. Just because I am not closed to the idea of no one can play with the SEC doesn't make me sound like a Big10 fan. If you haven't noticed, Big10 has upgraded coaching and have finally understood if they are going to beat the southern teams they are going to have to recruit southern kids, and are doing exactly that. I don't like it, makes me sick to see Georgia kids heading to tOSU, my least favorite team outside of ND, but they are.
I don't think good bowl seasons are as indicative of good teams as good regular seasons against ranked opponents. Bowl season shows good coaching and good preparation, but it's mostly just about bragging rights in my opinion.
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