SEC results and who they played in the bowls.

[*Bleedingblue*]

Did a little digging on the conference standings of each team that the SEC teams had to square off against. I was interested in it and asked for it in a couple of other threads but nobody seemed to care to do the research so I did it. I thought it was interesting none the less. 1 game yet to finalize and UT is up on Iowa 28-7


----1st game.

South Carolina faced Miami. 24-21

USC was 11th in the SEC
Miami was 11th place in the ACC
SEC win

---2nd game.

Texas AM vs West Virginia 45-37

AM was 9th in the SEC
WV was 6th in the Big 12

SEC win

----3rd game

Arkansas vs Texas 31-7

Arkansas was 12th in the SEC
Texas was 5th in the Big 12

Win SEC

----4th game

LSU vx Notre Dame 28-31

LSU was 7th in the SEC
Notre Dame Independent Started out season 7-1 and ended up losing next 4. Regrouped apparently

Ind win


----5th game

Georgia vs UL 37-14

Georgia was tied for 3rd in the SEC
UL was was tied for 3rd in the SEC

SEC win

----6th game

Ole Miss vs TCU 3-42

Ole Miss was 5th in the SEC
TCU tied for 1st in Big 12. (top 1-2 team in country with chip on shoulder)

Big 12 win

----7th game

Miss St vs Georgia Tech 34-49

Miss St was 4th in the SEC
Georgia Tech was 2nd in the ACC

ACC win

----8th game

Auburn vs Wisconsin 31-34

Auburn finished 6th in the SEC
Wisconsin finished 2nd in the Big 10

Big 10 win

---9th game

Missouri vs Minnesota 33-17

Missouri 2nd in the SEC
Minnesota 4th in the Big 10

SEC win

----10th game

Bama vs Ohio St 42-35

Bama 1st in the SEC
Ohio St 1st in the Big 10

Big 10 win

----11th game 28-7 UT leading (present score right now as of typing this) final 45-28


UT vs Iowa


UT 10th in the SEC
Iowa 7th in the Big 10

results SEC win

---- 12th game

Fl vs ECU

Florida finished 8th in the SEC
ECU finished 4th in the AAC

SEC win



You guys already know the games that were played and how each team looked and the final score. Some of these losses were anybodies game and some of em were blowouts as were some of the wins.

I think the placement of the teams tells a bigger difference to the tale than just the SEC lost.

This post was edited on 1/2 6:43 PM by *Bleedingblue*

This post was edited on 1/3 4:39 PM by *Bleedingblue*

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

Florida plays East Carolina in the Birmingham Bowl on Saturday.
Not pulling for Florida as I actually think ECU will win that game but, if the Gators do win, the SEC East could actually do a little to salvage what has been a rough Bowl season for the SEC.

 

[Cawood86]

Good post. SEC West losing all but 2 of their games was a little surprising. A lot of had to do with not good QB play and bad defensive play. I think you will see better QB recruits from the SEC.
This post was edited on 1/2 5:18 PM by Cawood86

 

[cats2010]

The SEC from top to bottom is the strongest and anyone trying to argue against that doesn't have a leg to stand on.

These bowl games however are meaningless. You cant fire up a game one month later and determine team A is better than team B. Until a playoff format is put together that does not include 4-5 weeks of not playing competitive football then we are doing nothing but wasting everyone's time.

Go back to an 11 game schedule, have your conference championships, rate your teams 1-16 and then put together a 16 team playoff with the top four teams getting a byes. This would give them a deserved week off while 5-16 play round 1.

There is more than enough time to implement such a system since there is so much freaking time off in between conference championships and the bowl games. Space the rounds out by two weeks if needed but a month off without playing a game is STUPID!!!!!! Imagine getting down to the final four in basketball and then having all four teams come back a month later to finish it.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

I also agree that it is too much time between the end of the season and the bowl games. I think 2 weeks is plenty of time

 

[Samwise Ganjee]

A sixteen-game college season

Wow

College kids doing this as amateurs for the same length of time as the NFL did just as little as ten years ago

SMH

At some point someone needs to advocate for the kids: this is not good for you, mentally or physically

Anyway....the SEC is no less the premier league in the nation than it was on Christmas Day

Pretty much the entire country had to scrape together to find a way to battle it on New Year's Day

So they won this round, big deal...if indeed they actually won, because for the most part we were punching up and scoring wins or respectable losses (except for Mississippi--what's up with you guys down there????)

 

[Tebow81]

Would like to know pac12 comparison based on their bowl games...

 

[porterwildcat]

Two weeks is not the appropriate amount of time. Schools have finals between the end of the regular season and the bowl season. Each team gets 15 extra practices for going to a bowl, part of the incentive to go bowling. Two weeks would change everything in a negative way. You must also factor in that bowls put out a large amount of money to sponsor, and do not want to be rushed into action before the holiday season.

 

[Mojocat]

Good opening post. SEC is 6-5 right now, may be 7-5 if Gators win tomorrow. I think we were favorites in 9 of 12. Seems to me that 7-5 isn't too terribly worse than 9-3. IOW, and to the OP's point, if you really look at it, the league didn't really have a "you embarrassed yourself" week, like I heard Colin Cowherd say today. Everyone, for example, is hanging their hat on yesterday specifically, and saying it was an awesome day for the Big 10 and the worst day for the SEC since October 29, 1929. But was it? Auburn, which finished 4-4 in the SEC, lost by a field goal in OT to the Badgers who were 7-1 in conference. Bama was a heavy favorite, but it was 1 vs 4, two 12-1 teams. You'd think both Auburn and Bama got beat by 35. Ole Miss was housed, and Miss State was beaten soundly.

None of that matters, of course. There is a real desire for the SEC to do poorly, and then for people to crow about it. So everyone is quite content to fly at 50,000 feet and make gross generalizations that aren't necessarily true.

Note, I'm not saying the SEC a West was not overrated. It likely was. I'm just saying the last week hasn't really been the nightmare people are claiming....

 

[jauk11]

Interesting that while the SEC west finished 2-5 the SEC east will finish 5-0 in the bowls if Florida can beat ECU. Of course the east had lower ranked teams and therefore played lower ranked teams from other conferences, but still, the east teams were usually playing teams that finished as high in their leagues.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Whats happened is the SEC west got built up to be some kind of super division, best in college football, they were not, not even close. Everyone of them except Arkansas had a glaring weakness and improved as the year went alone, they were a top 3 team in the West at end of year, maybe top 2..

LSU-zero passing offense
OM-crazy qb and no run game to speak of
MS-poor pass defense
AU-awful run defense
Bama-poor pass defense
A&M-poor defense

With weakness that stand out like those do other teams will take advantage of them and it happned during bowl season, except for MS who couldn't deal with GT's option.

I never thought they were that good during the season and now it shows. But 14 is over, time to focus on 15 and to start hating UT again. Been so nice the last 5 years to not have to see those ugly orange flags flying in North Georgia, I am afraid after today they will have them back out tomorow. But on the bright side, the Bama flags were down today.

 

[KA4Prez]

I think it played out somewhat predictably.

The SEC, OVERALL, is the best. However, this year, the TOP of the SEC was not better than everyone. They aren't even the best team, and possibly didn't have more than 1 team deserving of the top 10 (UGA with Gurley, probably is).

Think about this though.

UK was 13th in the SEC. Basically, UK would absolutely wipe the floor with the worst team in every other conference. As bad as UK looked to end the year, I say this confidently looking at teams like Purdue, Wake Forest, Iowa State and Colorado.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

I think thats a pretty good accessment KA. Several good teams but not one great team. I don't know if we were really any better with Gurley than we ended up without him, never would have thought that in August, but Chubb wasn't a noticeable dropoff in production from Gurley. Gurley is probably a little faster, Chubb is a little harder to get off his feet,

 

[KA4Prez]

Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:
I think thats a pretty good accessment KA. Several good teams but not one great team. I don't know if we were really any better with Gurley than we ended up without him, never would have thought that in August, but Chubb wasn't a noticeable dropoff in production from Gurley. Gurley is probably a little faster, Chubb is a little harder to get off his feet,

You guys beat UL pretty convincingly. I'd put Bama at 3 and UGA at 9 or 10. I think Ole Miss and Mississippi State took advantage of some nice home wins that got them ranked high. Both schools had some "statement" games to make, notably, Ole Miss vs Bama and Miss. State vs Auburn. We will see how they do when they become the hunted in the next few years...or at least not a Cinderella story.

Michigan State, TCU, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Baylor and Arizona probably round out the top 10 (not in order).

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Originally posted by KA4Prez:

Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:
I think thats a pretty good accessment KA. Several good teams but not one great team. I don't know if we were really any better with Gurley than we ended up without him, never would have thought that in August, but Chubb wasn't a noticeable dropoff in production from Gurley. Gurley is probably a little faster, Chubb is a little harder to get off his feet,

You guys beat UL pretty convincingly. I'd put Bama at 3 and UGA at 9 or 10. I think Ole Miss and Mississippi State took advantage of some nice home wins that got them ranked high. Both schools had some "statement" games to make, notably, Ole Miss vs Bama and Miss. State vs Auburn. We will see how they do when they become the hunted in the next few years...or at least not a Cinderella story.

Michigan State, TCU, Georgia Tech, Georgia, Baylor and Arizona probably round out the top 10 (not in order).

Bama will probably be ranked 3 or 4, but I think thats too high for them. Saban built his team to take away the run and middle of the field. Their defensive front doesn't generate a consistent pass rush, he has always depended on having an elite secondary who could cover longer than anyone else until pressure finally got there. But with todays offenses spreading defenses so wide and vertically he can't do that, passing teams give them trouble. WIthout all the turnovers FSU would too, I think TCU at this point would beat them. Of course Kiffin for whatever reason wanted to throw the ball too much, at least I thought he was, tOSU never really stopped the run, Kiffin did. We, UGA had a couple of bad losses this year, no reason for either, Tech is a good team, a game we had won and Richt's call on special teams beat us at the end. So I would like to finish top 10, but I dont know if we really deserve to be there. We are just so inconsistent. When we were on, we were very good, but when we were off, we were pretty bad. Those 2 bad games cost us a chance at Bama in the Dome.

 

[jauk11]

Bama was already leading the recruiting race by a pretty comfortable margin, and just picked up two more top commits from the Armour all star game. I'm not all that sure that the results of one game prove who is the better team, but of course that is how it is decided, I still think if Bama had treated it as four down territory when close to OSU's 30 and only down 6 they probably would have won the game by hoping the two RBs that averaged close to 7.5 and 5 YPC could average 2.5 YPC for a few carries each.

 

[BigBlueFan1963]

There are probably a lot of fans across the country that would like to stick a fork in the SEC but it is not happening. Alabama and the SEC will still be standing and not going anywhere anytime soon/

What happens in these bowl games is unpredictable.

I have enjoyed watching especially the ones on New Year's Day. I am glad I did not stay up for the second half of Alabama. The Auburn-Wisconsin game was a fun one to watch so was Oregon-Florida State. It was nice seeing Winston and the Seminoles collapse.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Bama has had the top recruiting class 7 of the last 8 years, nothing new with that. One position they haven't been able to recruit is at qb, but Kiffin has been able to bring one in. Kiffin's offense is much more wide open than Saban likes and not having a qb who was an accomplished passer bit them Thursday night. I was watching the game and couldn't believe the call after that short punt from about the 21. Any other year Bama would have done like you said, run it in behind that big OL with those big backs. I don't think the Saban-Kiffin match is one that will last very long, especially calling a game like he did Thursday.

But how many times did Bama have them 3rd and long only to have the qb complete a pass or make a big run for a first down? I think the running qb caught them off guard, and he was a better runner than they thought he would be. I think the bowl results will have an effect on the pre season rankings for next year, SEC probably won't have as many teams in the top 25 as normal and Pac12 will likely have more than normal. I expect Arkansas to pass State, OM and LSU next year, no idea what A&M will have and how much Chavis can improve their defense in one spring and pre season

 

[BlueRaider22]

The OP "may" tell us some information about the depth of the conferences as well. For this yr the other Power 5 conferences had a couple top teams in each that could compete with the top teams in the SEC, but there is a significant drop off in team quality outside the SEC.

 

[dimeforepps]

I'd like to see this done for past bowl games as well....see just where everyone stacks up

 

[gamalielkid]

Bleedingblue I got hammered for saying the SEC was probably overrated THIS year. I still stand by that statement - it was! However, I didn't say it still wasn't the best league - IT IS! People got caught up on how great all the west teams were early and how they dominated early - THEY DID! And now the however, the West teams - except for Arkansas - didn't hold serve the last 4 games of they season in general. When I was talking being overrated - it was because the media and fans put the SEC on a pedestal.

I believe a lot of teams from other conferences were ready to "Even" the score against the SEC and played harder to prove it.

Overall, the SEC is still the King - and yes, the SEC EAST is rising again - finally! It may a year away - but I think the SEC East will be equal to the West in two years or less. Missouri has been holding serve, Tennessee is gettting ready to explode, Florida will come back under their new Coach, Georgia just re-loads. Spurrier is having a banner recruiting year in South Carolina and I still believe Kentucky is getting very close - much like Mississippi State has done - except Stoops is building on a long term approach - Mississippi State appears to be building peaks with some valleys.

Go Big Blue!

 

[Ugoff]

Originally posted by cats2010:

The SEC from top to bottom is the strongest and anyone trying to argue against that doesn't have a leg to stand on.

These bowl games however are meaningless. You cant fire up a game one month later and determine team A is better than team B. Until a playoff format is put together that does not include 4-5 weeks of not playing competitive football then we are doing nothing but wasting everyone's time.

Go back to an 11 game schedule, have your conference championships, rate your teams 1-16 and then put together a 16 team playoff with the top four teams getting a byes. This would give them a deserved week off while 5-16 play round 1.

There is more than enough time to implement such a system since there is so much freaking time off in between conference championships and the bowl games. Space the rounds out by two weeks if needed but a month off without playing a game is STUPID!!!!!! Imagine getting down to the final four in basketball and then having all four teams come back a month later to finish it.

Agree with this...16 is the number IMO and the month off is silly. Maybe eliminate the bye weeks during the season if necessary.

 

[gamalielkid]

The playoff is here to stay - and it went the way it was planned. We had an 8 team playoff! We had conference championship games - ALL of the conference championship winners made the 4 team playoff! It's already here- I think the conferences made a statement about their real feelings and the committee validated it with the picks. It's logical and it makes sense.

Three super conferences (of at least sixteen teams) and two smaller conferences (at least 8 teams but not more than 14 teams) works for the playoffs. The season would not be any longer or much different than it is now. This would allow each of those conferences to be guaranteed a spot in the final eight and a chance to play for the National Championship on the field - not in the ballot box. The four games played now as the League Championships would still be played at the same place and the same date. The two smaller conferences would play each other at a selected site on the same day too. All division winners and league champions would be "in" the playoff.

Currently, the SEC has 16 teams, The Big Ten has 14 teams could add 2. The ACC has 14 teams could add two. The Big 12 has 10 teams and would be one of the small conference teams and the Pac 12 with 12 teams could play each other as geographically that would make the most sense. This would give you a final four team of one team from the west, one from the midwest, one from the south and one from the East.

The benefits to fans attending games and television would be off the charts. It would make inter league and out of division play losses a non factor as far as losing a game and making the National Championship playoffs, the same as basketball already does.

Go Big Blue!

 

[RV2]

When did the SEC add two teams and expand to 16?

 

[cats2010]

Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
A sixteen-game college season

Wow

College kids doing this as amateurs for the same length of time as the NFL did just as little as ten years ago

SMH

Not sure what you are shaking your head at. You do realize both OSU and Oregon will be playing their 15th game on jan. 12th. Under my scenario I outlined 15 games would still be what was played anyway. 11 game schedule plus the tourney championship with first round byes for the top 4 meaning they only play 3 more games. Sure a team 5-16 could have to play 16 to win it all but do you think they would mind. Most of the teams 5-16 would not have played in their conference championship game anyway meaning they too would max out at 15.

sorry I just don't like a system that selects so few teams worthy of competing for the title and waste the entire month of December with no meaningful games to watch.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

With Florida's win today, the SEC finished 7-5 in post-season bowls. The 7 wins ties a record that the SEC had previously set itself for number of wins by a conference in post season play. Ironically, the Eastern division teams, much maligned as the weaker division in the SEC won all their bowl games.
So, to those claiming the SEC is no longer the dominant conference....which was the bigger fluke? All 5 West division power teams losing in bowls or all 5 East division "weak" teams winning theirs?

On a side note, Urban Meyer actually brought up a valid point during his in-game interview on ESPN2 today during the OSU basketball game. He said that teams are now being asked to play 15 or more games with a roster designed for a 12 game season. Not a huge fan of Meyer as I think he tends to be a bit of a drama queen but, he makes a good point.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Seems years ago we had a 100 guys on scholly.