And Towles isn't on it. Are you kidding me?
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SDS ranks the top 10 SEC QBs
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Don't say that on here. Question our QB you'll be hung on the cross. Guess SDS only knows basketball too. They should stay on the basketball board.
I've always felt that SDS has a history of disrespecting UK. When they are not saying something negative about us, they're ignoring us. Just my feelings on them.
This. I think there are many on this board for whom this is an emotional issue. It's odd how this revolves around the QB. We seem to have no issues bashing Kemp or Elam or any of our DBs. So much as say that was a bad pass from Patrick and all of the sudden you have half the board shouting you down. With that said Patrick probably should be in the top 10 though. Right now he's probably about 8th in the league.
Agree. SDS really does have its agenda where we are concerned. I think our decision to emphasize our potential as the Midwest's home state option for playing in the SEC is just as irksome to a lot of SEC observers as it is to folks in Big 10 country. We might just take a geography lemon (small population state) and turn it into lemonade (best proximity to home for kids looking south to compete in nation's greatest football conference). This could prove as great an advantage to us as any Florida or Texas A&M enjoys.
Towles goes and completes 72% of his passes week 2 and people still want Barker. A guy who the coaches and all the media agree is behind Towles
I think it really involves folks who call for Barker to play at the first mistake made by Towles, and people backing Towles up or arguing that it's not time to play Barker, than it is people sticking up for Towles when he makes a mistake. There's a difference.
The knee jerk "Put Barker In" threads after one mistake are asinine.
Where to begin. I haven't seen anyone bash Kemp or Elam. A couple of posters correctly questioned Elam's conditioning a year ago, a couple correctly point out that he plays with a high pad level, but I haven't seen anyone question whether Elam is moving in the right direction this year. Gosh, that isn't bashing. I haven't seen any criticisms of a Kemp, currently the #13 rusher in the SEC. As for Towles, I don't know what you are talking about. I haven't seen anyone say that Towles never makes a bad pass. In fact, I have never heard of any quarterback who never makes a bad pass. Andre Woodson made great strides from the end of his sophomore season to the end of his junior season. I am probably not the only fan here who thinks Towles is going through that same maturation process. Right now, Towles is 5th in the SEC in passing yards per game, and 7th in quarterback rating. Towles has a better quarterback rating than Dak Prescott. None of the quarterbacks rated ahead of Towles have played a true road game yet. If you think that makes Towles the 8th best quarterback in the SEC, I'm sure you can give some kind of a reason for thinking that.
But we do like them when they say nice things about us or post busty coeds
It's ridiculous that he is not one of the top 10 QB's in the SEC where QB play pretty much sucks. It just shows how ridiculous they are and how much they know about football.
On another note: just heard Bruce Feldman on Finebaum show talking about how ridiculous it was for So. Carolina losing at home to UK....this is another example of so called experts sticking their head in the sand and not being able to see on the field who is better.
On another note: just heard Bruce Feldman on Finebaum show talking about how ridiculous it was for So. Carolina losing at home to UK....this is another example of so called experts sticking their head in the sand and not being able to see on the field who is better.
I think I saw their RB list and Boom was an honorable mention. The guy is No. 2 in the nation in YPC and he did not make the list. LOL!
Those complaining about PT can have Grayson Lambert, he is obviously ranked higher than Patrick...
"Lambert had a rough first half in Georgia’s 31-14 win over Vanderbilt. He finished the opening two quarters without a completion in five throws and then misfired on his first two attempts in the third."
^This gentlemen, is the definition of inconsistent. NOT 74%...
"Lambert had a rough first half in Georgia’s 31-14 win over Vanderbilt. He finished the opening two quarters without a completion in five throws and then misfired on his first two attempts in the third."
^This gentlemen, is the definition of inconsistent. NOT 74%...
Hard to justify him not being in the top 10. That said, not many good QBs in the SEC so a site can just about rank whoever they want wherever they want in the conference.
It appears that this is a ranking of performance for the first two weeks, and not for overall ability; it's a list of who has the best two weeks, not who would you want if you were picking one for next week or if you were drafting one next April. Even so, I fail to see how Towles would not rank in the top 10 for the first two weeks. He didn't have a good Week 1 game, but rebounded fairly well in Week 2.
Sure but a couple are trending way down in the 2nd week, while others are trending up...
This is the life of a program who has a history of losing. No media will ever investigate to see why we have never gotten over the hump. Probation in the seventies and again with Mumme killed us in recruiting and trying to get great coaches to come here but the media doesn't care how we become losers only that we are. Beat FLA Saturday and they will be forced to notice what Stoops has had to do to change the attitude of this program.
Pat and the team have the opportunity to change all the disrespect. Just get it done the rest of the way starting Sat. Hope he breaks out big!
I can only assume that Pat was better at every other practice since he's starting.
Probably just coincidence that Barker easily outplayed Towles at the only 2 practices I attended. Surely
Agreed. I'm continually bashed when I say I'm not a big fan of Towles' game. I've always thought he is way overrated by our fans. IMO he's just not that good and will never play in the NFL. It's nothing personal against him. He is a big athlete with a cannon arm. But as we know, it take more than athleticism to make a great QB.
I'm cool with that. He may not be an NFL'er and we have a couple of fans who are pissed because he isn't playing like a first rounder that some pundit claimed him to be.
Doesn't mean he cannot be a good college QB. Look at our league, not a banner year at the QB spot, we may have 2 of the top 12...
Does the coaching staff, who sees him everyday have any clout to you in making personnel decisions?
You guys see him play TWICE and think you know more than the guys whose family's livelihood counts on them to make the right decisions regarding who plays...
The issue I have is those making up facts, people saying he is inconsistent while completing 74% of his tosses, etc.
Kid was better game 2 from 1, thats a good thing.
He will face an extremely tough defense this week, I'm sure the haters will be out in force.
-UK could run for 250 and win by 10...and people will still cry if they don't throw for 250 plus. Mumme left an impression.
While passing is a major role, perhaps even the major one, of being a good QB, there are other factors that have to be considered. The QB is the on-field commander of the troops, and a LOT depends on how he inspires everyone else out there to play to their potential...how he handles and commands leadership in the huddle, how much the other players respect and respond to his leadership, especially when something bad has just occurred (like after that first possession interception). There has to be an air of optimism and the ability to inspire the OL, WRs, and backs to give that extra effort on a critical down. The last drive against SC that enabled us to run out the clock, shows me that this offense has responded to PT's leadership. He's not as good as he is going to get yet. He makes some bad throws, like they all do, but his leadership qualities are beginning to show. THIS may be one area in which the coaches trust him ahead of Barker. It's not always only about passing.
No arguement from me on this, If we had some drops in all those misses I could defend him a little, and he did have one, Chubb dropped one, but none were over 10 yards deep and he bounced some of them half way to the receiver. About the only positive I can come up with he hasn't throw an int. He makes Hutson Mason look like Joe Montana, or Tom Brady for you younger guys. Richt is catching a lot of heat for trotting qbs as limited as ours have been the last 2 season out there. I am not sure we would even throw a 30 yarder downfield if the defense didn't even cover the WR and put 11 in the box. Vandy played every snap with at least 8 inside the tackle box within 5 yards of the line, and sometimes 9 daring us to throw deep and we run a dive inside tackle, really hard to understand that playcalling. We have run zero toss sweeps in 2 games, every single rush other than 1 reverse has been designed to run inside tackle. we ran the same gaps, left or right every play, the only varible is formation, either with a lead back or without a lead back, well I guess right or left is another, but same gap. Meanwhile our WR are matched up 1 on 1 and we don't even look at them, have yet to run a play action pass. Its a pee wee level offense, it makes Vince Dooley look like Hal Mumme. I am not a happy fan, lol/
No doubting you Dawg about your team, but you guys are stacked at so many positions that against many opponents you guys can simply impose your will even if one aspect is lacking.
That's what is so frustrating about this team, we have a good OL, maybe real good, we have a great running game, we have playmakers at WR, our return guy number 16 McKenzie is getting lots of snaps there, our defense is quite a bit better than average, yet we are trotting a qb out there who might not start at Kennesaw State, a program in Georgia who is playing its first season this year. There is probably 20 guys walking around UGA playing intermural flag who are better than Lambert. Richt and our new OC seem to be making this a throw away season, when a toss sweep would be opening up the offense you are being too conservative. We are playing every snap like its a kill the clock situation, run a dive or isolation in the A or B gaps. That's our offense.
