Not much if any. The Pistons and many teams didn’t fear him. They just knew he was better.Would love to know how different the Jordan Era would have looked if Len Bias hadn't died. Bias didn't fear Jordan.
Bias was going to be a Celtic. That's a pretty big thing to factor in.Not much if any. The Pistons and many teams didn’t fear him. They just knew he was better.
MJ is in a different category. Maybe Bias could’ve been sort of close like Kobe and Lebron, but they are all quite a bit below his level.
He could get a good shot off anytime he wanted. That’s one simple difference. Another is that he’s the best defender of all time.
Early on, maybe. But after he took the mantle from Bird/Magic as the face of the league he was protected like the Mona Lisa. I found it disgustingJordan played through hand checking, holding, and bumping on EVERY play.......plays that would cause Bronny to writhe on the floor while sobbing at the refs as the ball goes to the other end of the court.
He did get a lot of fouls called, that's true.Early on, maybe. But after he took the mantle from Bird/Magic as the face of the league he was protected like the Mona Lisa. I found it disgusting
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It’s true they would’ve been better and he would clearly have helped those vets likely get another title.Bias was going to be a Celtic. That's a pretty big thing to factor in.
Crazy thing is Bird would have retired in 1988 if Len Bias lived.It’s true they would’ve been better and he would clearly have helped those vets likely get another title.
But you cared enough to post that.Could care less about anything that fool Chapman has to say.
Really, I’d never heard that. Maybe he should’ve thought he was still damn good up until he retired. Just not 3-time MVP good anymore.Crazy thing is Bird would have retired in 1988 if Len Bias lived.
Really, I’d never heard that. Maybe he should’ve thought he was still damn good up until he retired. Just not 3-time MVP good anymore.
Jordan played through hand checking, holding, and bumping on EVERY play.......plays that would cause Bronny to writhe on the floor while sobbing at the refs as the ball goes to the other end of the court.
I find it funny that some of the same people who say LeBron is the GOAT and discount his physical advantage also are the first ones to say Wilt Chamberlain can't be considered the GOAT because he was physically dominant during his playing time. You can't have it both ways.LeBron, one of the greatest specimens to ever play the game, used that strength for countless points at the rim. He should get major credit for being built like a brick sh*thouse and using that to his advantage.
But Jordans skill level (kobe too) was on its own planet.
Where’s the discount? He’s the most well built NBA player of all time. He used it to his advantage. He’s amazing.I find it funny that some of the same people who say LeBron is the GOAT and discount his physical advantage also are the first ones to say Wilt Chamberlain can't be considered the GOAT because he was physically dominant during his playing time. You can't have it both ways.
I was talking about others who don't acknowledge he's accomplished what he has because of being physically dominant more than being the most skilled but then discount Wilt's accomplishment. I was agreeing with you not saying you are the one who said it.Where’s the discount? He’s the most well built NBA player of all time. He used it to his advantage. He’s amazing.
He isn’t as skilled as MJ or Kobe.
Yep because I can't stand that egotistical jerk and will let everyone know it. Note I knew him when he was living in Owensboro.But you cared enough to post that.
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Jordan still would have been the GOAT because he didn’t fear anyone either and nobody could stop him.Would love to know how different the Jordan Era would have looked if Len Bias hadn't died. Bias didn't fear Jordan.
Mike was better but Kobe is as close as a player will be to MJ IMO. He was practically a clone, played like him, athletic like him, same jumper, great defender, and same size.Not much if any. The Pistons and many teams didn’t fear him. They just knew he was better.
MJ is in a different category. Maybe Bias could’ve been sort of close like Kobe and Lebron, but they are all quite a bit below his level.
He could get a good shot off anytime he wanted. That’s one simple difference. Another is that he’s the best defender of all time.
That is 100% accurate. If you add in modern rules Jordan wouldn’t have needed 20 years to reach Lebron’s scoring level. He would have been close to 40ppg easily most of his career. Defenders would have had a lot more tools to slow LeBron down. He still would be dominate but without a solid 3 early in his career he was easier to contain.Jordan played through hand checking, holding, and bumping on EVERY play.......plays that would cause Bronny to writhe on the floor while sobbing at the refs as the ball goes to the other end of the court.
I’m sure Jordan has donated tons of money over the years. I commend Bron for staying true to his childhood friends though. Most do that for tax purposes. When yours a billionaire it’s almost required to save money.I don't think there's ever been a more fiercer competitor than Jordan, but that came with being a bit of a D__K. I remember one of the guys he played with said he could crush your confidence and get you bounced out of the league with the way he would rag on players that weren't his favorite. And there was his huge gambling addiction. Off the court Jordan still was all about Jordan. Off the court James has given back a ton to charity and put his childhood friends running his businesses.
Actually that’s not logical. By posting “you don’t care”, you are reinforcing the idea you truly don’t care.But you cared enough to post that.
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I will only push back on the jumper part slightly. Mike could stop on a dime and elevate higher and faster.Mike was better but Kobe is as close as a player will be to MJ IMO. He was practically a clone, played like him, athletic like him, same jumper, great defender, and same size.
That is 100% accurate. If you add in modern rules Jordan wouldn’t have needed 20 years to reach Lebron’s scoring level. He would have been close to 40ppg easily most of his career. Defenders would have had a lot more tools to slow LeBron down. He still would be dominate but without a solid 3 early in his career he was easier to contain.
I still find it hilarious that the Lakers had Smush Parker. He spent like 3 of his 5 NBA years in LA. He was a career NBDL and overseas guy other than that. Just some random dudes had time in the sun over the years.
Great illustration of how much better MJ would have been.
Got ya.I was talking about others who don't acknowledge he's accomplished what he has because of being physically dominant more than being the most skilled but then discount Wilt's accomplishment. I was agreeing with you not saying you are the one who said it.
Jordan averaged 8 FTA per game...Early on, maybe. But after he took the mantle from Bird/Magic as the face of the league he was protected like the Mona Lisa. I found it disgusting
Career FT RateJordan averaged 8 FTA per game...