Quinton Baker with a 4.28 forty
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Baker is really fast and an excellent RB. But those times at the combine are inflated. I doubt if college coaches take those times seriously.
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Probably true...but he was still fastest at the combine....And even if you add a whole tenth to his time, it's still 4.38 which is stout
Just watched his highlight tape. He's fast, but not 4.28 fast. Probably in the 4.5 range.
Here's what "real" 4.2 looks like. There is a difference.
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Here's what "real" 4.2 looks like. There is a difference.
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Puzzled by that time. By all accounts he's a step slow for his size. Hate to be skeptical; but I am.
I'm sure Baker is fast, but that time is probably not that accurate. Like mentioned before, it's typical to add .2 to a hand time.
This reminds me of that study done in the 1988 olympics where they timed Ben Johnson and Carl Lewis passed the 40 yard mark in 4.38 seconds during the 100m dash final.
If we believe this 40 time from Baker, then he is faster than some of the fastest sprinters in history.
With that said, even he runs a 4.5, that is still flying.
This reminds me of that study done in the 1988 olympics where they timed Ben Johnson and Carl Lewis passed the 40 yard mark in 4.38 seconds during the 100m dash final.
If we believe this 40 time from Baker, then he is faster than some of the fastest sprinters in history.
With that said, even he runs a 4.5, that is still flying.
If he's recorded as a 4.28, and he actually runs a 4.5 like you assumed, the dude with the watch probably had a cup of coffee before he started the stopwatch, wildcat.
I think 4.4 is probably a more realistic number. too much separation between 4.28 and 4.5
I think 4.4 is probably a more realistic number. too much separation between 4.28 and 4.5
As fast as he may be able run, it still comes down to whether or not he knows how to play football and execute the plays.
read somewhere they had 7 people with stop watches and the times given were the middle. not sure if true but i still think he's in the 4.45 range from tape but that can be deceiving based on recording format and transfers... its why some guys look really really fast on tape but dont time so well and vice versa.
A 4.28 is really, really fast. In fact, it would tie for the 5th fastest 40 ever run at the NFL combines.
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I think that about sums it up. The kid must be "fast". I share the doubt that he is a world class sprinter, but have little doubt he is a burner.
Was disappointed when, as a legacy, he dropped his commitment after the U of L game, and am even more disappointed to hear of his recent visit to River City.
If he is genuinely interested in playing for Petrino, I'm not sure we have much reason to spend any time on him. Would not have said the same of Charlie Strong, but there it is.
I have time 100's maybe 1000's of kids in the 40 with multiple timers. All kinds of variables to consider, multiple times with .5 difference from fastest to slowest time on same 40 yards. Some coaches like to give the athlete running a little help. When you have multiple timers all starting at a different time the times will be all over the place. If the athlete is starting on his own and you are going to movement and .2 tenths. If there is someone starting them, some coaches still start on athlete's movement, other start on first step while some start on sound. If the kid is running good, some even stop the watch a couple yards early, beeps give them away, lol. This time looks like they were starting on movement which would put him around 4.45-4.50, which is awfully fast. Lots of very good NFL backs don't get close to that, Emmett Smith was 4.6+ and Jerry Rice was 4.7 and those guys could hold their own.
Alfonso and Locke were two of the fastest guys in the country, track level speedsters, all time fast, went back and forth battling over who was fastest, turning in numbers like 4.19 and 4.23. Then they went to combines...
Locke ran a 4.4 flat, Smith ran a 4.38. Baker didn't run a 4.28, but he almost certainly did outrun the other people there which is an accomplishment in its own right.
Locke ran a 4.4 flat, Smith ran a 4.38. Baker didn't run a 4.28, but he almost certainly did outrun the other people there which is an accomplishment in its own right.
David Jones told me that neither Locke or Smith could beat him in the 40...That he raced them at practice and beat them both...I think Jones was misused by the staff and should have stayed on the offensive side of the ball
One good indication of a players speed is their 100 meter dash times in track. Most of these fast football players run track, where the times are, I believe, all electronic nowadays. I looked up Baker, and it looks like he ran the 100m dash in 11.1 seconds at the KY state track meet last spring.
While this is a good time, its far from blazing speed. Dewayne Chubb from UGA clocked a 10.6 in high school. I think that Damien Harris had a 10.7 or 10.8.
I know that there's a big difference between a track 100m dash and a football 40 yard dash, but those 100 times give you a good idea of a runner's basic speed. Baker's 4.28 would be at or near the top of ALL NFL combine participants and faster than Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson were timed when they crossed the 40 yard point of the 100m dash in the OLYMPICs final in Seoul.
But, maybe I"m wrong and he really is that one-of-kind speedster?
While this is a good time, its far from blazing speed. Dewayne Chubb from UGA clocked a 10.6 in high school. I think that Damien Harris had a 10.7 or 10.8.
I know that there's a big difference between a track 100m dash and a football 40 yard dash, but those 100 times give you a good idea of a runner's basic speed. Baker's 4.28 would be at or near the top of ALL NFL combine participants and faster than Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson were timed when they crossed the 40 yard point of the 100m dash in the OLYMPICs final in Seoul.
But, maybe I"m wrong and he really is that one-of-kind speedster?
Track times and combine times are completely different animals. A combine 40 time starts when the runner starts. A track time starts on the gun. Olympic timing even measures the reaction time to the gun and if the reaction time is < .1 seconds, it is considered a false start.
Hand timed 40s appear even faster because the timer must react to the start by the runner thus at best the runner has been moving .1 seconds before the timer can even start the clock. Laser electronic timing eliminates that starter reaction time thus the "extra" .15 give OT take a few .01s
Add th e fact that world class runners accelerate through about 60 meters and then hold that speed, they aren't trying to go as fast as they can in the first 40. So if Carl Lewis was 4.38 @ 40yds...subtract his reaction time which was at least .1sec and know that he was controlling his speed in the first 60m then we know that Lewis could have run a much faster combine 40 than 4.28...likely very close to a laser timed 4.2...a hand timed 4.1.
As an old friend of mine says....Good googly moogly!!!
