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Question re Murray-Morehead technicals

Apr 30, 2010
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Twice last night in the first half, Morehead players were called for personal fouls, followed immediately with technical fouls. Both times Murray got four free throws, and both times (initially) the FTs for the personals were shot before the technicals.

On the second series of FTs, after they had been shot, the refs huddled and decided that the technicals should have been before the personals, making a do-over necessary. On the do-over, Murray scored 3 of 4 from the line, whereas they only got 2 of 4 initially.

Murray retained possession after the first set of FTs, but not the second. What set of circumstances dictated the order of the FTs being shot, and possession afterward?
 
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Good question sloop. I don't know the college rules on that. I've never seen a tech call and the offended team not getting the ball afterwards. Plus, years ago, after two techs, at least in HS, the coach of that team was tossed.

Didn't realize for awhile who the coach of Morehead was. Looks like he did a good job and I really appreciated his sportsmanship after the game. He shook hands with murray coach, shawn was smiling and talked with him for quite some time before moving on. When he came to murray's left handed guard, he spent some time with him also. FCC.
 
I thought that in the case of technicals w/ personal fouls - the technicals were ALWAYS shot first - because you don't rebound those. And, depending on why the T was called, it could be someone different than the guy who was fouled on the floor? Then, of course - the regular foul shots

Could be wrong.
 
If I remember right, most (if not all) technicals now are "point of interruption" infractions which means that it isn't automatic that you get the 2 shots AND the ball. In those cases the point of interruption was a foul giving Murray 2 shots, thus the techs are shot first. At least that's how I understand it, but I may not have done a very good job of explaining my understanding lol
 
Originally posted by Marine_In_VA:
If I remember right, most (if not all) technicals now are "point of interruption" infractions which means that it isn't automatic that you get the 2 shots AND the ball. In those cases the point of interruption was a foul giving Murray 2 shots, thus the techs are shot first. At least that's how I understand it, but I may not have done a very good job of explaining my understanding lol
This may be part of the deal last night. On the first set of FTs (personals before technicals), all were shot with no players near the line except the shooter. On the second set (techs before personals), defenders were allowed on the blocks when the personals were shot, meaning a live ball on a miss.

I thought in both instances that the personals preceded the techs; I just couldn't figure what circumstances would dictate the difference in sequence of FTs and possession.
 
Originally posted by FutureCityCats:



Didn't realize for awhile who the coach of Morehead was.


that's amazing as a KY fan you missed his visit to rupp arena two years ago as the coach of morehead. not just him sitting on the sidelines, but the media explosion that followed over his criticism of our players and recruiting. all that followed by around the clock coverage of his suspension for getting physical and putting hands on the morehead players
 
Should have shot the techs first, and then lined up to shoot the normal free throws. The OVC has to be embarrassed that their officials screwed this up TWICE in the same game. They used the high school rules for administering technical fouls. Watching the game it was horribly called both ways. Embarrassing that a conference semi-final on national tv was officiated by the equivalent of middle school officials.
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Originally posted by calscats8105:
Should have shot the techs first, and then lined up to shoot the normal free throws. The OVC has to be embarrassed that their officials screwed this up TWICE in the same game. They used the high school rules for administering technical fouls. Watching the game it was horribly called both ways. Embarrassing that a conference semi-final on national tv was officiated by the equivalent of middle school officials.

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If that's the case, then the refs screwed up again by awarding Murray possession on the first technicals, right? I would think that the Morehead staff would raise hell about that, absent any mitigating circumstances that would include possession after the fact. Embarrassing indeed, since the outcome of the game could have been altered.

My understanding of the rules in this case is obviously lacking. Thanks for the help.
 
Originally posted by FutureCityCats:

Good question sloop. I don't know the college rules on that. I've never seen a tech call and the offended team not getting the ball afterwards. Plus, years ago, after two techs, at least in HS, the coach of that team was tossed.

Didn't realize for awhile who the coach of Morehead was. Looks like he did a good job and I really appreciated his sportsmanship after the game. He shook hands with murray coach, shawn was smiling and talked with him for quite some time before moving on. When he came to murray's left handed guard, he spent some time with him also. FCC.
Noticed the same thing about Sean. He and Steve Prohm spent some quality time during the handshake (unlike the typical Pitino walk-by), and then Sean went out of his way to embrace and talk to the Murray kids. I live in Murray and have an appreciation of the coach and the players.

Quality and class on both sides.
 
Either way I'm glad Murray won as they are clearly the best team in OVC. It would be a travesty for any other team to represent the OVC in the NCAA. No OVC team will get an at large bid.
 
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