Question about seeding
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Beyond the eight "National Seeds", there will be eight other teams who get to host, but I don't believe those second eight who get to host are officially seeded 9-16, per se. So if UK fell in that second eight, it would be lined up in the bracket across from a bracket including one of the National Seeds. I could be wrong on this, but it appears to me that that is often done in a manner which promotes an intriguing Super Regional match-up with regional interest. In other words, in all likelihood, if UK found itself in the second eight, it would be matched up across from UofL. In that scenario, UK would only get to host the Super Regional if one of the lower seeds wins the Louisville Regional.
Let's hope the 'Cats win the series in Gainesville and earn a National Seed to make this discussion a moot point.
Let's hope the 'Cats win the series in Gainesville and earn a National Seed to make this discussion a moot point.
Well unless I'm mistaken, it is really more of a bracket format but they just don't seed the teams all the way thru 16.
So say if Kentucky is in essence the 10th seed they would be playing opposite the #7 National Seed. If that Natl seed is eliminated during regionals and UK wins theirs they would automatically host the Super Regional.
Reseeding and or grouping to region don't really come into the equation otherwise Louisville would have never hosted Fullerton and Santa Barbara the last two years.
So say if Kentucky is in essence the 10th seed they would be playing opposite the #7 National Seed. If that Natl seed is eliminated during regionals and UK wins theirs they would automatically host the Super Regional.
Reseeding and or grouping to region don't really come into the equation otherwise Louisville would have never hosted Fullerton and Santa Barbara the last two years.
College baseball is really stupid in that they rely on geography. Uk could be #9 and UL #1 and they would still pair UK and UL in the supers. They should seed the field 1-16 like softball does, but they do not.
They aren't so much about geography as they are money. Geography is the thin veil they use to hide the fact that it's about money.
OK, that's your interpretation, but they've always hidden behind "travel costs". I think it's complete bullshit, college baseball is a national tournament, so no idea why the NCAA cheapens its tournament by artificially force-feeding premature matchups like UF/FSU, Clemson-USC, UK-UL, etc.
Eh, to some degree the NCAA has admitted as much. The more fans at regionals and super regionals the more money the NCAA makes.
I don't think it matters what Louisville does this weekend. I think they are a national seed. They lost last night and didn't move at all in the RPI. They are playing another top 25 RPI team, so losing this weekend isn't terrible.
Kentucky has 2 chances to win one more game. We then need MSU to at least take one from LSU. If those things happen then you have a 3 way tie for first place in the SEC and UK holds the tiebreaker over both Florida and LSU. Then it would be Kentucky (1), Florida (2), LSU (3), and Arkansas (4). I am not sure that there has ever been a time that the winner of the SEC was not a national seed. So, one more win by us and a loss by LSU, IMO, locks us into a national seed no matter what.
So, correct me if I am wrong, but last night's win ensures that Kentucky is a top 4 seed in the SEC tournament, right? I think worse case scenario would be for Florida to win the next two and Arkansas to sweep TAMU. That would give Florida 21 wins and the SEC outright. Arkansas would end up being 19-10 and would have a better percentage than anyone else because of the one less game and would be second in the SEC. Then Kentucky, LSU, and MSU could all be tied for the third and fourth position. MSU would have to beat LSU in the next two games and that would mean that they'd hold the head to head advantage over both Kentucky and LSU and they'd be 3rd. Kentucky would hold the advantage over LSU because of the head to head and Kentucky would be fourth. Correct? Hope I don't have to find out.
Man, that's a lot to think about. Still think I could see UL dropping from a national seed if Kentucky were to sweep and UL were to loose their next two. I think the NCAA is going to have a difficult time giving both a national Seed. Could come down to conference tournaments.
It is possible I guess. I didn't realize this, but the ACC is going to a rather strange format for their tournament. They are going to have 4 pools with 3 teams each. They will have 4 days of pool play and the teams that leave the pool play with the best records will be in the semi-finals next Saturday and the title game on Sunday. So, each team is guaranteed 2 games in the tournament. So, I suppose that worst case scenario, UL could end up losing 6 games in a row. If they do that then they won't be a national seed, but I really don't see them losing that many in a row.
Ok then...unless my stats are wrong, how does Otis gets thrashed at home and their SOS drops again and their rpi dosen't change, but yet UK drills Fla on the road and their SOS goes up along with its rpi?
Well, technically we only shared the title that year. We shared it with Alabama, and Alabama got the number 4 national seed. I think Alabama technically held the tiebreaker over us because they were the 1 seed in the SEC tournament and we were the 2, but we "shared" the conference title.
I am not sure what you're asking. The top 10 RPIs did not move after yesterday's games. Since teams like UL lost it makes me believe that they aren't going to move too much in RPI even if they don't finish that well. Plus, I don't really believe that FSU is going to sweep them. Just don't see it happening.
FSU has an RPI on the 20s. A loss to them does not kill UL. The losses that kill RPI are to teams that have 100+ RPI score (e.g. UK losing two to Georgia at home really hurt us).
My problem with UL is that they have very few good wins this year. They swept Clemson, which is clearly their most impressive result (in addition to beating UK at home). Otherwise, what's their marquee victory? Winning 2 out of 3 vs. Wake?? Other than that, it would be....uh uh uh uh.
Plus, their OOC schedule is pathetic. It's far worse than any of the other national seed contenders.
I know UL has a good team, but their body of work is very weak.
It's the ACC, I'm not sure they thought it all the way through.
But to actually answer your question, the highest seed advances if everyone is 1-1.
