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People saying UK was the better team

Sep 20, 2021
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need to look at the box score. Ole Miss rushed for 186 yards to our 108. The team with the better running game wins these games most of the time. Our inability to stop their running game cost us.
 
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Run game was irrelevant to the overall scope of the game. You should know better, sir.

Two missed extra points.
One missed field goal.
One safety.
Levis with two turnovers in the last 3 minutes.
One called-back touchdown.
One tripping of a player on a potential touchdown.


You focusing on one stat is meaningless. UK gave away this game.
 
Run game was irrelevant to the overall scope of the game. You should know better, sir.

Two missed extra points.
One missed field goal.
One safety.
Levis with two turnovers in the last 3 minutes.
One called-back touchdown.
One tripping of a player on a potential touchdown.


You focusing on one stat is meaningless. UK gave away this game.
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So why are folks saying uk was the better team? Because they are UK homers? How were they better?

If UK were better, they would have won inspite of all the mistakes, that would mean they are better.

The Levis safety was just awful no way you let that happen at that point on the field.
 
So why are fks saying uk was the better team? Because they are UK homers? How were they better?

If UK were better, they would have won i spite of all the mistakes, that would mean they are better.

The Levis safety was just awfl no way you lrt thst happen at that point on the field.
Poor Levis did it in front of NFL scouts and probably cost a few positions in the draft. Which may mean millions in his pocket. I guess time will tell. Today I would rather have the Ole Miss QB.

If you are a gambler I guess you consider this a win but I look at wins and losses. It is funny once the game is played it is reported W or L. UK lost and the point spread means nothing at the end of the season.
 
Poor Levis did it in front of NFL scouts and probably cost a few positions in the draft. Which may mean millions in his pocket. I guess time will tell. Today I would rather have the Ole Miss QB.

If you are a gambler I guess you consider this a win but I look at wins and losses. It is funny once the game is played it is reported W or L. UK lost and the point spread means nothing at the end of the season.
Levis would get killed in the NFL with his lack of pocket presence. He ain't ready for the NFL at all.
 
Out-coached in key moments on both sides of the ball I would say cost us the game.

Outside of Brown not much of an effort at all on offense, still if Rodriguez is in on the drive smoke dropped that ball out of the backfield it changes the game, if we give the ball to Rodriguez instead of qb run before the first fumble it changes the game, if we get to the 6 yard line with 1:10 and give it to Rodriguez 4 times we win the game.

There is a reason Levis is touted as a first round draft pick, but the best college football player on the team is #24.

Defense played great overall, but how many times in the first half on third and long did they snap the ball while the line and linebackers were looking at the sideline? Have to be prepared for their tempo before the game.

hard to say ole miss is that much better than Kentucky but if they played 10
Times I woulda expect Kentucky to win 6 or more, unfortunately they play once and they won.

luckily for us fans we are at the point in our school that the only thing that matters is the final score. Hope this loss doesn’t turn into two.
 
Run game was irrelevant to the overall scope of the game. You should know better, sir.

Two missed extra points.
One missed field goal.
One safety.
Levis with two turnovers in the last 3 minutes.
One called-back touchdown.
One tripping of a player on a potential touchdown.


You focusing on one stat is meaningless. UK gave away this game.
I agree 100% with your points. The loss is very disappointing, but there is no question in my mind that we were the better team. I say this objectively and not as a life-long KY fan drinking the Big Blue Kool-Aid.
We beat ourselves ...
 
KY was slightly the better team in many areas, OL and kicker outside Brown clearly favored Ole Miss.
 
Run game was irrelevant to the overall scope of the game. You should know better, sir.

Two missed extra points.
One missed field goal.
One safety.
Levis with two turnovers in the last 3 minutes.
One called-back touchdown.
One tripping of a player on a potential touchdown.


You focusing on one stat is meaningless. UK gave away this game.
Son, my thinking exactly, possibly could have won this game going away but, wasn't in the cards
 
need to look at the box score. Ole Miss rushed for 186 yards to our 108. The team with the better running game wins these games most of the time. Our inability to stop their running game cost us.
UK missed two extra points, missed a FG, had multiple turnovers, cost themselves 6 on a kick off return tackling our own man, dropped a pick that allowed ole miss to kick a FG and had the game winning score negated by a dumb penalty and still only lost by 3….. all that matters is the scoreboard but we are the better team, ole miss just executed better today and thus got the win
 
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Targeting not called was a big factor too. That was on a big drive that could have won the game right there.

I don't see how tat was targeting on the first fumble. The defender was T basically mid thigh level waiting. WL lowered his head trying to run over the defender. If zero WL was in the pocket, I could understand targeting. But at that point he was a RB, not a QB and the QB protection is out the window.
 
I don't see how tat was targeting on the first fumble. The defender was T basically mid thigh level waiting. WL lowered his head trying to run over the defender. If zero WL was in the pocket, I could understand targeting. But at that point he was a RB, not a QB and the QB protection is out the window.
The rule doesn’t state anything about lowering your head causing the penalty.

if you lead with the brown of your helmet and hit a runner in the head it is the textbook definition of targeting.

however much like fouls in the last play of a basketball game, or that stupid ass hook rule in basketball, they are afraid to enforce the rules if it affects the game unless the league office directs them to.
 
This game reminds me of the 1970-74 years when I attended UK, and most of the seasons since then until we became a solid team the past 2 years. Today UK found every way possible to lose just as they did back in most of the years beginning in the 60's until things changed the past couple years, with a few exceptional years like the 1976-77 and 1977-78 teams. I hope missing extra points, a thirty-nine yard field goal (which cost us the game even if you exclude all the drive killing motion penalties which are all self-inflicted and the two fumbles in the final 3 minutes) will just be a one game fluke and UK will return to the type of team that does not find ways to beat themselves.I might add that I would not expect to win 10 games or even 9 this season if our defensive line puts as little pressure on the opposing QB as it did today.
 
I don't see how tat was targeting on the first fumble. The defender was T basically mid thigh level waiting. WL lowered his head trying to run over the defender. If zero WL was in the pocket, I could understand targeting. But at that point he was a RB, not a QB and the QB protection is out the window.

Defender still cannot lead with the crown of the helmet. It's called that way all the time.
 
This game reminds me of the 1970-74 years when I attended UK, and most of the seasons since then until we became a solid team the past 2 years. Today UK found every way possible to lose just as they did back in most of the years beginning in the 60's until things changed the past couple years, with a few exceptional years like the 1976-77 and 1977-78 teams. I hope missing extra points, a thirty-nine yard field goal (which cost us the game even if you exclude all the drive killing motion penalties which are all self-inflicted and the two fumbles in the final 3 minutes) will just be a one game fluke and UK will return to the type of team that does not find ways to beat themselves.I might add that I would not expect to win 10 games or even 9 this season if our defensive line puts as little pressure on the opposing QB as it did today.
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Good post.
 
If this, if that. Stop it. The fact is, UK lost because they played very poorly and Ole Miss contributed to UK playing bad.

Ole Miss did not contribute to Ruffalo missing a middle/middle FG. Ole Miss did not contribute to the long snapper/holder failing to execute. Ole Miss didn't contribute to a UK player tripping the ball carrier on what was likely a return for a touchdown. Ole Miss didnt contribute to Levis snapping the ball before Brown was set, taking away the go-ahead score.

We left a ton of points out there that weren't forced mistakes by Ole Miss. Granted, Ole Miss did make big plays when they needed to. So, credit to them for making those two huge plays when they needed them most, but UK also shot themselves in the foot numerous times.
 
Ole Miss did not contribute to Ruffalo missing a middle/middle FG. Ole Miss did not contribute to the long snapper/holder failing to execute. Ole Miss didn't contribute to a UK player tripping the ball carrier on what was likely a return for a touchdown. Ole Miss didnt contribute to Levis snapping the ball before Brown was set, taking away the go-ahead score.

We left a ton of points out there that weren't forced mistakes by Ole Miss. Granted, Ole Miss did make big plays when they needed to do so, but a part of that. So, credit to them for making those two huge plays when they needed them most, but UK also shot themselves in the foot numerous times.
Dude! We had this. We had this.

I'll shut up.
 
Ole Miss did not contribute to Ruffalo missing a middle/middle FG. Ole Miss did not contribute to the long snapper/holder failing to execute. Ole Miss didn't contribute to a UK player tripping the ball carrier on what was likely a return for a touchdown. Ole Miss didnt contribute to Levis snapping the ball before Brown was set, taking away the go-ahead score.

We left a ton of points out there that weren't forced mistakes by Ole Miss. Granted, Ole Miss did make big plays when they needed to. So, credit to them for making those two huge plays when they needed them most, but UK also shot themselves in the foot numerous times.
Ole Miss did force the safety and 2 fumbles. You can spin all you want if that makes you feel better. UK football has been doing this my whole life.
 
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Defender still cannot lead with the crown of the helmet. It's called that way all the time.

The rule doesn’t state anything about lowering your head causing the penalty.

if you lead with the brown of your helmet and hit a runner in the head it is the textbook definition of targeting.

however much like fouls in the last play of a basketball game, or that stupid ass hook rule in basketball, they are afraid to enforce the rules if it affects the game unless the league office directs them to.

I didn't think the defender led with anything, he got ran over. At that point WL was no longer a QB, he was a RB and had lost the protection a QB gets.RB are not ruled defenless. If targeting occurred it would have been offensive. I understand it was a game altering play that went against UK, I just don't see how it meets the requirements needed to be called targeting. If it did 90% of defensive players would be ejected from both teams every game.
Defender still cannot lead with the crown of the helmet. It's called that way all the time.

Defender didn't lead, he was run over, WL is the one who led.
 
Ole Miss did force the safety and 2 fumbles. You can spin all you want if that makes you feel better. UK football has been doing this my whole life.

I gave them credit for making those plays and despite them making those plays UK still left as many as 18 points on the field that they stopped themselves and not that Ole Miss made a play or forced.
 
I gave them credit for making those plays and despite them making those plays UK still left as many as 18 points on the field that they stopped themselves and not that Ole Miss made a play or forced.
You could say that every game. Fact is, UK didn’t make plays when they needed to and Ole Miss did. Levis needs to make a major step forward. O line as well. Until that happens, rough days ahead.
 
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I didn't think the defender led with anything, he got ran over. At that point WL was no longer a QB, he was a RB and had lost the protection a QB gets.RB are not ruled defenless. If targeting occurred it would have been offensive. I understand it was a game altering play that went against UK, I just don't see how it meets the requirements needed to be called targeting. If it did 90% of defensive players would be ejected from both teams every game.


Defender didn't lead, he was run over, WL is the one who led.
Leading doesn’t mean who is the aggressor in the play.

the play contains two people, both lead with their helmet, it is not yet a penalty for the offensive player to lead with his helmet, it is a penalty for the defender to do so.

its not a block/charge situation where the actual play determines the call, the rule is very clear and by definition that was a targeting.
 
Ol Miss left some points on the field. Going for it on fourth down and the interception before the half.
 
Leading doesn’t mean who is the aggressor in the play.

the play contains two people, both lead with their helmet, it is not yet a penalty for the offensive player to lead with his helmet, it is a penalty for the defender to do so.

its not a block/charge situation where the actual play determines the call, the rule is very clear and by definition that was a targeting.

You are still seeing WL as a QB in the pocket passing the ball. When he tucked it and took off up field he lost that protection. He was no longer defenseless ball carrier. Wasn't the aggressor? Come on he had every intention of bowling that defender over. It was a tough play for UK, but if a defender is broke down waiting on a ball carrier, and the ball carrier can lower his head and ram into the defender we might as we put flags on and ay 7 on 7.

Now that last ruled fumble, UK had a legit complaint, I thought his arm was moving forward but CMS was out of timeouts and couldn't appeal the call.
 
You could say that every game. Fact is, UK didn’t make plays when they needed to and Ole Miss did. Levis needs to make a major step forward. O line as well. Until that happens, rough days ahead.

Rarely does it happen so many times in a game and takes 18 points off the board. And we're not talking about missing a block, where the defense plays a role. We're talking about largely unforced errors.
 
You are still seeing WL as a QB in the pocket passing the ball. When he tucked it and took off up field he lost that protection. He was no longer defenseless ball carrier. Wasn't the aggressor? Come on he had every intention of bowling that defender over. It was a tough play for UK, but if a defender is broke down waiting on a ball carrier, and the ball carrier can lower his head and ram into the defender we might as we put flags on and ay 7 on 7.

Defense cannot hit a runner in their head with the crown of the helmet. Plain and simple. That is what happened. Doesn't matter that Levis was also lowering his head. That's a common complaint about the rule, but the rule still remains that a defender can not lower the head and lead with the crown and hit the runner in the head and neck area.
 
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