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Outsider View Of This Year's Team

ralphdaltonfan

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I'm going to take a shot at talking about your UK team this year and hope it's taken with intent--which is discussion starter--not trolling.

First off--different type of team in what Cal would like--look at the alpha males he's brought to Lexington and has coming next year. Now contrast that with role players that consist of majority of this year's team. Ulis and Briscoe are only kids I see as typical Calipari guys--Murray will develop into one--but he's more obsessed with degree of difficulty plays and showcasing his skill set then making type of simple play that will get him the recognition and result. Seeing this team play-I think Wynyard will be a guy who gets some minutes and can help. He has one skill set that is needed-he likes to play physical. That attributes to hard fouls--UK fouls a lot but they are soft fouls (Poythress 5th on dunk, Briscoe 80+ feet from hoop, Skal's fouls all year). Give a foul that sends a message! No and one, no reach and let guy score.

This team is a combo of '11 and '13 where kids chose UK because of what the program is about without understanding what it takes to make it about that. They need to learn and will. Kids think that Cal/Staff are "talking" when they say UK is a target for every opponent. Well now those who think it's just talk, get it. It takes time. The '15 class wasn't that strong and UK got a lot of good players but you can see why it wasn't lauded as a great national class--Briscoe is a PF in guard's body--he might be the worst shooter I've ever seen UK have under Cal, Matthews is going to be a great college player--but right now he needs to understand he's a defensive player/slasher/finisher and not a playmaker.

Bullet point wise I'll address a few other things:

1. If you are going to play small--you have to fly up and down the court and play fast. This team isn't. Last night their best offense was when they attacked and shot quicker--because it allowed the athletes to go crash boards and defense scrambled. For some reason the 3 guards like to play hesitant. Needs to change. Ulis passed up shots, Murray kept trying to signal everyone in place and Briscoe played with ball too much early on--adjusted in 2nd and played aggressive and got results.

2. Skal isn't a Center. He's a PF who needs to play with someone else in paint--I'd put Lee in Paint and Skal on wing offensively and actually would let Skal play facing more. Know Cal wants these guys to showcase their skill set and develop their weakness--but problem with Skal is he's Anthony Davis frame as a HS Sr now--not that I'm comparing him to Davis as a player--but for those who talk of how skinny Davis was--look at his shoulders and strength added at UK his FR season. Skal looks more like HS version of a great prospect then college player--so it'll take him time and Cal himself said he's still trying to figure out how to use him best.

3. Murray has to focus on playing and not being a highlight player. If you hit a jumper or make a simple drive, you get same amount of pts as if you contort your body and make the crowd ooh and ahh. Too much playing to the crowd and not doing the simple things. He's a great player and will get this--just has to learn. Then again, I get it--if I were 19 and ESPN had a continuous loop of play against Duke where he lobbed to Poythress, I might be feeling that too.

4. Ulis has to be more aggressive and quit dribbling with no purpose. Know this will upset some who view him as untouchable in terms of criticism--but he does a lot of BS with the ball for no reason and throws off plays/timing of plays. He needs to set tone and get ball and fly up the court and attack, look for secondary and then set up a play--in halfcourt I'd grade Ulis as AVG this year--too much dribbling and passing up shots. It's his team (didn't Cal tell him this after everyone left?) start playing like it. Attack and play faster.

5. Poythress/Lee need to just play hard. Lee has chance to be a very good player this year--energy and hustle plays and Poythress has looked ok most of year--despite athleticism, he struggles because he plays too high. Low man wins in sports-and watch him catch a ball--how often is he straight up and down/stiff legged? Any player with his ability should catch knees bent and ready to explode--it's also why his jumper is off--he isn't shot ready--no flexibility--stiff. Low to high Alex is the kid you saw in '14 Tournament--flashes of brilliance come from that version. That has to be norm for this year's team.

6. Humphries is not the answer--he jogs on defense, is out there and know he's only 17 but he's not ready. Spot minutes at best-Wynyard has chance to pass him and for this team to reach full potential that may (stress MAY) be the difference for UK moving forward-a bruiser who is physical paired with Lee and Skal.

7. Briscoe shooting/FT shooting is mental. Guy was a scorer in HS but he had a softer shot then he's showing at UK. Again--watch his pre shot form--he's not shot ready--and part of it is he's used to always have ball in hands and creating a jumper, etc..has to learn to play without--but the FT shooting is ridiculous for a player as good as he is--that's mental. Will say that most UK kids do improve as season progresses.

8. Willis can play with this group if they play fast. If not-he's a liability due to not being tough enough to defend or rebound. If they run--he can help because he plays better defense--he'll fit their pressure group as you saw last night more--but reason he looked good in Bahamas Trip as did Poythress was the fast pace that was set. He's not a great shooter despite everyone wanting him to be placed in the Wiltjer role from '12 team.

9. People get on Cal for yelling. Why? He's having to coach on fly and with new kids who fight you (as a coach in HS, can tell you the kids fight what is being told due to having success against lesser opponents or something worked 1 time--and crowd liked it or a friend or a parent.....) you have to set tone and get them through it. Cal is rare breed--he'll get on refs but most of game he's on his own guys/team. He tells them in recruiting how it'll be and some act shocked when it happens to them (Skal) but they'll adjust. As long as you are honest and treat kids with fairness (yell at mistakes and yell praise when they do well) they'll respond. It's why he's a HOF and team improves over course of season.

10. Stay the course--it's a wide open season and UK has a ton of upside and after '14 season where people were almost turning on the team/hating them--you see how growth with young people can happen quickly. Skal is going to be fine--offensively in the game he'll show flashes--he needs to focus more on rebounds then blocked shots--if he does that--he'll pick it up quicker. Thing is--they told him to challenge more shots--so he's leaving area often and trying to block shots--instead of staying down and going for ball after an attempt.

It's not going to be like '10, '12, or '15 every year--but '11 and '14 teams should calm down some of the ridiculous talk about this group. All the above points are correctable and many will happen faster now they've tasted defeat and realize that coaches were telling truth and not talking just to be talking. Good luck and look forward to responses/seeing what UK fans think of an outside perspective.
 
When you said UK fouls a lot of stopped reading. It has never been a Cal hallmark or philosophy.
 
You sure do watch UK a lot for not being a fan!

Some interesting observations. I would like to think you're right on the potential for contribution from Wynyard.
 
Nicely done. I think most here feel like this team has more potential than was shown last night . . . I'm not crazy about losses, nor do I think we play like a #1 team, and that's OK. Rankings don't matter much to me, the one trophy that's handed out in April is all that it really boils down to. I don't see our club having a mass exodus this spring. We'll continue to improve. FWIW, I don't see a dominant # 1 team out there this year.
 
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When you said UK fouls a lot of stopped reading. It has never been a Cal hallmark or philosophy.

Doesn't matter if it's a philosophy or not--this year's team when facing good competition has fouled. Skal, Lee, Murray, Briscoe, and that has to improve.
 
Great post, like mentioned earlier.. you sure do watch UK a lot, are you sure you're not a fan?

I am glad about Winyard, this team needs a tough guy inside.
 
good ideas, but any time you say anything anti......you are the devil

Again, this group has very limited fundamentals,........no screens, no rebounding, no free throw shooting..........they all want the ESPN tricks

Perfect example last night, down 2 or 4.....they had a 2 on 1 fast break......Murray & Poy, instead of driving to make the defender come toward him
he throw a lob into the stands & they get nothing. UCLA used the pick & roll all night to score at will....UK did nothing to stop that play nor did they try & use it against UCLA
 
It sucks to lose like we did last night. But it's also important to not make sweeping generalizations about the team and the season based on the first true road game. This team has a long way to go, and each individual player has a long way to go.

There are concerns at this point to be sure. However in 6 seasons at UK Calipari has righted the ship 5 times. The one time he didn't our best player tore his ACL the week the team worked its way back into the top-25.
 
Honestly didn't need an at length addendum to figure this out. Lost a game with 3-4 frosh playin majority minutes. Good grief.
-Ulis was hurting. He was in major pain all day Tuesday and Wednesday. He probably would not have played if game was against Chuck Roast U.
-Foul trouble, Lee going out hurt rotation.
-lack of strength inside.
-defense of high ball screen and pick and roll (youth)
-3000 mile trip with a frosh team (youth)

-UK did not recognize whether UCLA was playing zone or man, just youth. Not knowing good shots or spacing again (youth)

Pretty easy to figure this out, first big time on road environment
-UCLA was ready to avenge an embarrassing loss. Those kids are pretty proud, biggest game there in 10 years etc..

No reason to try to figure it out, it is a loss nothing more nothing less. Alex is going to play better. The light will come on for Skal.
 
Don't sleep on Chuck Roast U. They've gotta lotta beef inside...could go all the way!
 
Great post Ralph..spot on...as a ex college player I can tell you have Coached or played. Skal needs to play away from basket and use his shooting ability. I would like to see team play faster but Cal doesn't like to gamble or stretch defense and last night UCLA got everything they wanted.

I agree on Ulis dribbling to much...for some reason he is turning down wide open threes and choosing the JP Blevins ball fake of air move. Not sure why we run the weave 30' from the basket and eat up the shot clock for a rushed shot.

Points about Murray & Briscoe are spot on. Cal will get this team playing well come March. IMO not sure there is enough scorers & finishers to win it all.
 
Solid take Ralph. It is going to be a lot like the '11 team. They tried to post TJ a bunch the first part of the year and then they ran everything through the guards.

Briscoe is so unique in his skillset it will be interesting to see how he is used over the year. Hard to fit him in the offense but his defense and toughness make it hard to sit him.
 
Great post, and I pretty much agree. Detailed and factual rather than some typical one-note rant.

My only real disagreement is about this team resembling the '13 team (the '11 I can see). That '13 team was an absolute trainwreck. We had a disappearing point guard with no one else to play the position, a season-ending injury to our best player who was also our only legitimate post threat, and just flat out not enough players and not enough talent.

Other than that, great OP. I hope Cal decides to let Skal play on the wing more, but I'm scared he won't do it.
 
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Good post, as usual. I think Ulis is playing fine, but isn't completely comfortable yet fully asserting himself.

I also think part of the issue stems from the rest of the guys not really being comfortable yet, forcing Ulis to sometimes play more traffic cop than floor General.

I agree about getting Skal outside the paint - was having this discussion in another thread earlier. Of course Cal is committed to making Skal the best version of himself, and part of that is about getting him stronger in the post. When he does get deep position he is deadly.

It's very hard for Cal to play a style where the risk sometimes outweighs the reward, but he might have no choice with this team.

I'm not sure we can be the best team in the country this year as a predominantly half court team, especially with the new rules putting things firmly in the refs' hands late.

If there was ever a team built for speeding things up and maximizing opportunities, this is it.
 
Very good analysis OP, I agree that the Kiwi Wynward will add much needed toughness when he arrives. Even if he doesn't get much PT in actual games, he can bounce people around in practice, make stay puffs into jerky at least.
Agree that Skal needs to face up whether high post or on the wing, asking a rail thin Perry Stevenson clone to become Moses Malone in a few months is absurd.
We don't really have any consistent outside shooting as of yet, and don't know if that will improve enough to make another FF run, but hope it will.
 
Cracks me up that fans of other teams come here to give their expert opinion when we lose just like our own whiny select fans. None of them show up to whine when we are winning. The same issues should be there, win or lose.
 
Cracks me up that fans of other teams come here to give their expert opinion when we lose just like our own whiny select fans. None of them show up to whine when we are winning. The same issues should be there, win or lose.
The OP was pretty good with his analysis.
 
Cracks me up that fans of other teams come here to give their expert opinion when we lose just like our own whiny select fans. None of them show up to whine when we are winning. The same issues should be there, win or lose.

The OP is possibly the best insider we have to share recruiting information. He's here all the time and is always extremely knowledgeable and respectful.
 
I agree with the OP, for the most part.

Cal will figure it out.

By March, we will be really hard to beat. Just wait and see.
 
Thank you OP, love hearing thoughts from the outside when they're common-sensical/clear headed. We need more of that from the inside. Good points, couldn't agree more on most. We're going to get better, and I think we have a better upside than anyone else I've seen this year.
You hit the nail on the head towards the beginning, you get HS kids that don't know about being a UK player (and I don't care if you bring in AD, T Jones or Tony Delk to talk to em), it still takes a game like this where a team plays out of their shoes to get em to realize EVERY game they play is their opponents' Super Bowl. Just takes these experiences to figure out, we're so much better than we played yesterday once that gets across.
 
I have to echo the sentiments of most.... The OP post was top notch. Sure there is some opinion in his post, but I enjoyed the rational breakdown of the team's style and individual players. It's hard for some of our fans to hear things about UK players that they love that are negative, but it's wasn't personal. I appreciated an honest outside opinion when I was the player/coach and now as a fan!
 
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