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Minus 11 turnover margin last year if I read that correctly. Ummm, we went 10-3 with a minus 11 turnover margin with our schedule. Was it a fluke, poor technique, not being coached up in that area--I do not know. If/when we straighten that out this year, what does this look like? I am surprised Steele didn't pick UK higher due to this stat--admittedly, I have not read his piece. But, personally, I do not think we come close to this this year, as I believe this was partly a fluke and somewhat related to secondary issues with at times lack of pass rush. I think this changes this year.
 
Minus 11 turnover margin last year if I read that correctly. Ummm, we went 10-3 with a minus 11 turnover margin with our schedule. Was it a fluke, poor technique, not being coached up in that area--I do not know. If/when we straighten that out this year, what does this look like? I am surprised Steele didn't pick UK higher due to this stat--admittedly, I have not read his piece. But, personally, I do not think we come close to this this year, as I believe this was partly a fluke and somewhat related to secondary issues with at times lack of pass rush. I think this changes this year.
It may have felt like we had a lack of pass rush, but we had 30 sacks, the most since Josh Allen was here and second highest in Stoops tenure, as memory serves.
 
CRod had arm injury

Levis 1st year starter, in new system, with new teammates, in the SEC, with no Spring

Defense specifically corners couldn't force turnovers to save their lives, if not fir stud linebackers they might have gotten zero

UK success with horrific +/- turnover margin least talked about stat in all of CFB. Smart data analyst CFB guys like Bill Connelly talk all the time about "turnover luck". A team that forces a bunch one year will hardly get any the next. Luck balances out over time.

What if we are even in 22? Or positive? That get us over 9-3? How many more Ws?
 
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Pretty amazing what we accomplished last year with such awful turnover margin. Tighten things up a bit and we have a much bigger margin of error.

I definitely think Levis will be more careful with the ball. I think there will be less shots and more routes with a check down option. Last year he and cohen got super greedy quite a few times going for huge shots when, after the first few games, teams specifically played to take that away.
 
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I wish there were a site that annually listed turnover margins, and won/loss records.

I seriously suspect we are the only team in history to average a -.8 and pay on New Year’s Day.

Interestingly, Iowa finished 7th inTO margin, and we were like 125th. Yet we had three picks to their one in the Citrus bowl game.
 
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Turnover margin is random year to year. Good point about a regression back to the mean this year. I think there’s a good chance that happens.

CRod fumbled more last season than the previous other two and Levis was too sloppy with the ball.
 
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Oregon had a -1.3 TO im 2020 and played in the fiesta bowl. Oklahoma -.8 in 2019 and made the CFP. Not that uncommon
I'll give you Oklahoma! Must have been fueled by picks in the pass-happy Big Twelve.

That 4-3 Oregon squad in the weird year of 2020-21 . . . even for a Fiesta Bowl participant, that overall record just doesn't compute with significant success.
 
I can see we were ranked 125th in turnovers, but c/n see our 10-3 record, or the won/loss record of those ranked near us for a similarly sh!tty turnover margin. Sure, I could take notes, then switch to other sources showing w/l records, but I wanted a lazy man’s ability to glance and compare on one site.
 
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Minus 11 turnover margin last year if I read that correctly. Ummm, we went 10-3 with a minus 11 turnover margin with our schedule. Was it a fluke, poor technique, not being coached up in that area--I do not know. If/when we straighten that out this year, what does this look like? I am surprised Steele didn't pick UK higher due to this stat--admittedly, I have not read his piece. But, personally, I do not think we come close to this this year, as I believe this was partly a fluke and somewhat related to secondary issues with at times lack of pass rush. I think this changes this year.
Fogotten factor that HAS to turn a little bit in our favor this year. How we did what we did last year with that TO margin was one of the remarkable feats in college football
 
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