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Matt's post game show comments.

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Says that was the correct call by ref.
says we lost the game by the rebound deficit.

I say otherwise. We lost the game because we did not shoot as well in the second half and AM made shots. Of course the referring played a factor in the game.
The reason I say the rebounding was not the reason why we lost is because most all the big board deficits was in the 1st half. We won the first half.
We had a long drought and AM got hot and went on a 11-2 run. We did not shoot as well in the second half and that was the major reason why the game was on the line in the second half.
Hit shots and you win, that's the point of the game.

I've played hundreds of games and not one time did I see a T called on slamming the ball down the way Humphries did it. I've now seen 2 this year and both on UK one on Briscoe against SC and now this game. I've seen T's cussin the ref or talking smack though.

How many times have you seen a guy take the ball with 2 hands after a whistle is blown and slams ball real hard on floor with it bouncing back up in his hands.
I've seen guys throw the ball up in the air with a second left and no T all the time in today's game.
What Happened is not in the rule book.

To me this was clearly a biased call and it was a travesty to our guys who played their hearts out clawing back into the lead.
 
Grayson Allen would he get that call?

That literally stole the game from us.

Humphries gets picked on by the refs as soon as he steps on the floor. They can't blow their whistle fast enough. He gets slammed into like a train but he gets called for the whistle. It is pitiful
 
Anytime you leave it in the refs hands to make a call you just made a huge mistake because THESE refs will call it.

That's what I've said all along.

We have got to play more under control, which I realize is harder with an inexperienced core of players. These Refs in away arena's are cowering to the atmosphere that comes with our team. It's getting ridiculous.
 
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lol we shot 50% from two point land and 50% from three.

Shooting was NOT the reason we lost this game.

Scoring 1.14 points per possession on the team with the 16th best defensive efficiency wasn't the problem

We got killed on the boards........everything else was either in our favor or close to even,.
 
Matt is correct. The rule is the rule. I wouldn't have called it, I would have warned him. But, the conditions for the call had been met.
 
But that's not correct.

There is NO RULE.......didn't we just see that in the other thread. The call wasn't one that needed to be made. This was according to officials that Seth Greenberg asked after the game


Seth Greenberg ‏@SethOnHoops 2h2 hours ago
That action was not unsportsmanlike and after speaking to a number of Officals the feeling is you can pass on that call.


If it was a rule, he wouldn't have said that.
 
But that's not correct.

There is NO RULE.......didn't we just see that in the other thread. The call wasn't one that needed to be made. This was according to officials that Seth Greenberg asked after the game


Seth Greenberg ‏@SethOnHoops 2h2 hours ago
That action was not unsportsmanlike and after speaking to a number of Officals the feeling is you can pass on that call.


If it was a rule, he wouldn't have said that.

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This makes me extremely angry!!!
 
Matt nor jay were technically correct. Each expressed it is a per se technical foul. It is not a per se technical. It is a discretionary technical. Further it is not always called---see tamu player late n regulation. No call despite slamming the ball.

However, it's hard to say that that call cost us the game. Skal and lee both missed fts late. We didn't rebound well. I felt there were several missed walks--primarily by tamu. I felt the refs missed some fouls against tamu late as well. Additionally, the technical on Kennedy was huge for us. It appeared the game was about to get blown wide open and we got 4 straight points while resting and the clock not running.

Bizarre game. Sadly, I feel like officials have again become too involved n uk games. Maybe it's my blue-tinted glasses, but my gosh the officiating seems to play such a big role in several of uk's away games this year---and more times than not---it just hasn't "felt" right. However, I keep telling myself these guys will be the tougher/better for it come tourney time. Jmo
 
I keep hearing all this talk about "the rule" Have yet to hear what "the rule" actually is.

On air they said it was unsportsmanlike conduct, but that is the incorrect foul. A technical for throwing a dead ball, or interfering with a dead ball is actually delay of game technical foul. But, calling it in that situation is ridiculous. Had it not been called no one would have noticed.
 
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I would relate this to a player knocking the ball away after a made basket. Warning then next time a T.
 
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On air they said it was unsportsmanlike conduct, but that is the incorrect foul. A technical for throwing a dead ball, or interfering with a dead ball is actually delay of game technical foul. But, calling it in that situation is ridiculous. Had it not been called no one would have noticed.

It's a delay of game warning. A repeated instance can be called a technical.

Here's where it gets even more squirrelly...

A delay of game technical DOES NOT result in a personal foul.

Since Humphries was disqualified, clearly he received an unsportsmanlike T.
 
Actually if we don't give up 20+ off rebounds we aren't in that position.

In a game of what ifs focus on the ones you could have done something about.
 
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It is NOT a rule. I challenge you to find anything in the rule book that says it's an automatic tech. Here's a hint. You won't find it.

I didn't say it was an automatic tech. You said that. I said I wouldn't have called it. I said the conditions for the call had been met. It was up to the ref at that point. You and I wouldn't have called it. The ref rightfully had the discretion and made the call. NO rule was broken. The ref acted with the discretion allowed him in the rules.

Dude, I don't like it either, but he didn't violate the rule, he acted within his discretion.
 
Ummm, we still would likely have won the game is Skal had hit his second free throw. Sad about Hump but that didn't cost us the game.
 
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DING!! A game NEVER comes down to one play.
This one did. If you're too stupid to see it, that's your problem. Yes, our rebounding was poor. Other facets of our game were very good and overcame our rebounding. A turd of an official made a completely ridiculous call when it had no effect on the game. That bogus call decided the winner.
 
Poor rebounding or not, we very likely win the game if that technical isn't called.

We were able to recover from a poor rebounding performance. It's nearly impossible to recover from a call like that with 10 seconds to go.

Yeah but I'm way more concerned with future games.

That crazy call isn't gonna happen rest of the season. Least I would hope not.

We can't ignore why the game was that close to even begin with.
 
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We lost because the only big guy that didn't play like a lady part made an unfortunate mistake and an over zealous ref made a questionable call.

We let that team push us around like we were kiddies. We have shot less FTS than the last 10 teams we have faced because we have absolutely nothing inside,

Proud of Humphries for actually showing what effort looks like.
 
This one did. If you're too stupid to see it, that's your problem. Yes, our rebounding was poor. Other facets of our game were very good and overcame our rebounding. A turd of an official made a completely ridiculous call when it had no effect on the game. That bogus call decided the winner.

Yeah, Lee's missed throws, Skal's missed throws, none of it mattered. Bad rebounding was irrelevant.

That's what you just said. It came down to one 19 yr old kid's one bad decision at one bad time and a evil referee. If you actually believe that, I'm not not the stupid one.
 
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It's a delay of game warning. A repeated instance can be called a technical.

Here's where it gets even more squirrelly...

A delay of game technical DOES NOT result in a personal foul.

Since Humphries was disqualified, clearly he received an unsportsmanlike T.
It is not a warning. The NCAA rule clearly defines it as a class B technical foul and it never mentions the requirement of a warning beforehand. However, the direct rule states that the referee can choose to ignore it if it doesn't interfere with the play of the game. I just can't understand why that would be called in that situation.
 
IMO (This coming from a Jayhawk) the call was terrible. What the young man did didn't effect the game, it wasn't directed at any opposing player, just showing emotion on a game winning play. What the ref's did helped determined the outcome. There should be some common sense among the officials.
 
Ummm, we still would likely have won the game is Skal had hit his second free throw. Sad about Hump but that didn't cost us the game.
What about Lee missing front end of bonus with 30 seconds to go in regulation?
 
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