Maryland QB Possibly Challenging NCAA’s 4 Year Eligibility Rule
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Doesn't he get a covid year or something if he wants?
But yeah, funny all the things downstream from paying players and basically accepting CFB at the high end BCS/P5 level, is essentially a pro or at least semi pro sport/business.
It's not just pay players. It's okay, if this is a business and the players are employees then academic eligibility becomes a grey area. Other university employees get tenure...and professional athletes get 10-year contracts...
Who is eligible and for how long?
I think we will eventually start to see a lot of guys fight to come back, squeeze out another "graduate degree" year, or maybe some start taking a "medical" redshirt after a sprained ankle 3 games in.
Saw an ole miss kid roll up in a Lambo to signing day. What incentive does he have to leave now? Unless he's a 2nd round or better pick...go play special teams, maybe practice squad...or stay and be a star make lambo money?
That Myron Rolle dude from years back at FSU. Who was a legit scholar, on a med school path...I think he's a neurosurgeon now. Late round pick, might have been in the league a couple of seasons...would he even go pro today or just go straight to Med school, keep playing, and probably make more in NIL than as a NFL practice squad guy?
These are all things that folks are going to have to figure out. It's not just as simple as, pay the players they're employees who earn it.
Okay fair...but do we at least want some guard rails for how long they stay around?
But yeah, funny all the things downstream from paying players and basically accepting CFB at the high end BCS/P5 level, is essentially a pro or at least semi pro sport/business.
It's not just pay players. It's okay, if this is a business and the players are employees then academic eligibility becomes a grey area. Other university employees get tenure...and professional athletes get 10-year contracts...
Who is eligible and for how long?
I think we will eventually start to see a lot of guys fight to come back, squeeze out another "graduate degree" year, or maybe some start taking a "medical" redshirt after a sprained ankle 3 games in.
Saw an ole miss kid roll up in a Lambo to signing day. What incentive does he have to leave now? Unless he's a 2nd round or better pick...go play special teams, maybe practice squad...or stay and be a star make lambo money?
That Myron Rolle dude from years back at FSU. Who was a legit scholar, on a med school path...I think he's a neurosurgeon now. Late round pick, might have been in the league a couple of seasons...would he even go pro today or just go straight to Med school, keep playing, and probably make more in NIL than as a NFL practice squad guy?
These are all things that folks are going to have to figure out. It's not just as simple as, pay the players they're employees who earn it.
Okay fair...but do we at least want some guard rails for how long they stay around?
It's got to stop at some point. If not just move away from college connection and change name to Lexington Wildcats and Athens Bulldogs.
Man, the college football landscape just gets becoming more and more strange.
The court system is messing everything up. As usual, lawyers at the root of everything wrong. They need to get out of college athletics and let the existing rules stand.
Heck, seriously, why not let them get Law Degrees, Medical Degrees, Masters and Doctorates.
I would have no problem with that.
And a lot of us predicted this in the previous thread with regards to getting rid of the transfer rule. Like, if denying players NIL opportunities is why that went away then what about rules that you have to be enrolled to play? What about rules that you need to make certain grades to play? And who's to say you only get a 4-year clock to play?
This is all becoming a nightmare and a joke.
This is all becoming a nightmare and a joke.
I mentioned this concept a bit ago in another thread. Using the rationale of the courts, these schools can't limit participation at all. That was the stupid corner the courts painted themselves into.
We'll see if this makes courts snap out of it and provide a reasonable framework for reasonable restrictions
We'll see if this makes courts snap out of it and provide a reasonable framework for reasonable restrictions
What a misleading thread title. He is not suing the NCAA to challenge the 4 year rule. Article merely mentions it is a possibility.
Again… no NCAA apologist here… but exactly what rules are the NCAA allowed to create and enforce in this entirely voluntary system in which college athletes choose to participate?
I agree with you, the NCAA with rules, or was, that schools joined and agreed to follow its rules. Players chose to join those teams knowing those rules. I guess being old school I see getting a 200k degree plus a decent stipend as good compensation for playing a sport, it beats the auction house we have going on today. The new transfer policy I don't think is awful but could use some tweeking.
It will never make any sense to me. It’s supposed to be amateur athletics. The deal was always a university offered room, board, tuition, coaching, training, facilities, and support in exchange for the opportunity to play for said university. And I could generally get behind the idea of players not being inhibited from opportunities surrounding their name/image/likeness… but naturally this is now being twisted and broken from what was intended.
But going down the rabbit hole of saying you can’t legally place any limits on duration of eligibility, transfers, etc… and arguing players “deserve” to be paid as if they are employees… entirely nonsensical.
Go play professional sports (if you can) somewhere if you want to be paid that way. No one is necessarily making you play college sports, or play professional sports, for that matter.
A scholarship is not a constitutional right, so the universities will always have the right not to extend a scholarship to player that isn't confirming to set policy.
Yeah. The ncaa has done poorly in past but the courts are way out of line in this stuff. I have less and less interest in free agency non stop snd if we get it a place that dudes in mid 20s are competing with teenagers….then the sport is even less meaningful and at that point…why follow college. Just so pro sports
I don’t follow a ton professional today…but I’d change my tune if this keeps up
Idk what they expected after saying they can’t limit transfers in any capacity. There’s no difference using the logic they used.
I agree, if University's do not stop money after 5 years then just call it a semipro league. Stop the money this nonsense stops. Or bench them and make them leave.
I think NCAA did a decent job to not have supeona power. Sure there were a handful of teams that more than pushed the limits, but no more than the ones openly buying kids today.
But they have lost every court vase that I am aware of. I think much of this is caused my the contracts professional players are signing. Kids just want their part Now and there are places willing to pay. UGA has some alumni that are well off, but I don't know of ant that would spend 3-5m a year recruiting.
Absolutely. Players petition the NCAA all the time for an extra year. No different here. He might have a case for another year of eligibility. He gets 5 years to play due to the COVID year. In one of the 5 years, he only played in 4 games, meaning that could be a redshirt season.
America now…… right? If you want to come here and play in our League you can. You don’t have to, but if you do You must follow our rules. Fu$k you. I’m coming and I make my own rules.
Decision by the court system??? Fu$k you. He can do whatever he wants. Pay him millions.
Saban screwed him. Logged five games in 2019. He only threw a pass in three. If Saban had just kept him out of one less game I’m pretty sure he’d be eligible for another year. Only logged four in 2020, but that’s pretty much his Covid-year.
they need to accelerate the crazy so it can go ahead and be addressed. It'll suck for half a decade but should work to bring balance back to the force.
Genie is out of the bottle. If someone does challenge the 4 year eligibility limit and win, the NCAA essentially ceases to exits.
What would then prohibit NFL players who get cut from going back to college and playing another year or two?
What would then prohibit NFL players who get cut from going back to college and playing another year or two?
The guy had a great career at Maryland. This is beyond dumb with this stupid covid year crap as it's 2024.
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