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Marrow: "We're building something special"

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Saw these quotes from Ben Roberts talking to Vince Marrow, some really interesting stuff:

Over the past two years, has there been any change to your message to recruits or any change to how recruits are receiving that message?

"What's different is — we just rushed in that first year, trying to put a class together. And we stole some guys at the end. Now — with me and (director of football operations Dan Berezowitz) and Coach Stoops and our whole staff leading — it's a machine. I think when we did that 2013 class, people were like, 'OK, it's just a little excitement with the new staff.' That's what a lot of the other schools were using. And I think some of the people around here who were critical of the program, they thought, 'They're not going to put that together twice.'

"And the people in Lexington have a lot to do with it. I'd say 98 percent of my involvement with parents, their input back to me has been, 'Wow, we walked around the town and people were just so nice.' So I started using that from 2014 on. I'd tell the parents — they're staying downtown — and I said, 'Just go outside and walk around.' I felt very confident in the people in this community."

"And Lord forbid we win a couple more games. What are you going to have to say now? And parents are smart. They see where this thing is going. All you have to do is look around. I don't see it slowing down. I see it getting better, because our program is getting better. We're building something special."


When you go on these recruiting visits, do parents see Kentucky in a different way than they did two years ago?

"Yes. First year, it was like — I'm going to be honest — it was like, 'Kentucky? C'mon, man. Kentucky?'

"This is a true story, (freshman cornerback) Mike Edwards' dad — you know, Mike Edwards was a high-four-star, had over 30 offers. He committed to us, and I remember his mom said they first saw it on TV. He didn't tell his parents. So I knew I had to get with his dad, because the mom was like, 'Oh, my husband. He's not too happy.' And I called him, and he was like, 'Man, you all tricked him. What you did to my son, you all tricked him. We haven't even visited there. Man, Kentucky?' He just wasn't feeling it. Until he came here and visited himself. He was like, 'Man, now I see what my son wanted.'
 
If he gets another big time offer in the future, I think we should consider giving him another additional title, like "President of the university". He would make some extra money and then he could also recruit outstanding professors too. When I went to UK in the late 60's we certainly needed more of those.
 
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Me? I'm just asking, I thought I remembered something like that happening. I could be wrong though.

Yes we did. Last year the strategy seemed to be more focused on the very top echelon of recruits. Stoops and staff gave those guys they were recruiting way too long to commit, thus missing out on some lower ranked (but good) players. Then they scrambled at the end to put a class together. Thats why they already have a class together for next year. 22 commits I believe. And most are high caliber. I think they are holding the other 3 spots for the very elite and if they miss out, 3 is not a big deal. Thats JMO though.
 
Yes we did. Last year the strategy seemed to be more focused on the very top echelon of recruits. Stoops and staff gave those guys they were recruiting way too long to commit, thus missing out on some lower ranked (but good) players. Then they scrambled at the end to put a class together. Thats why they already have a class together for next year. 22 commits I believe. And most are high caliber. I think they are holding the other 3 spots for the very elite and if they miss out, 3 is not a big deal. Thats JMO though.
Tenn had the same thing happen in Fulmers last year. We call it "black Monday". We lost like 5 of our best recruits the Monday before signing day.
 
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Tenn had the same thing happen in Fulmers last year. We call it "black Monday". We lost like 5 of our best recruits the Monday before signing day.

As a UT fan, that has to hurt. Because you all have a rich tradition. And it's sad that Fulmer went out that way. I still wonder why to this day he didn't recruit Randall Cobb harder.

But trust me, even though last years class fell apart, I was more than pleased. Our class fell to the low 30's, but thats still better than what UK has traditionally done.
 
But didn't you all lose 4-5 good recruits last year a couple of weeks before signing day?

A few of the guys that we landed late are making news in camp. The fact that we lost some and then landed others late that are turning heads is a sign of good recruiting. So, we are having fun!
 
But didn't you all lose 4-5 good recruits last year a couple of weeks before signing day?
Yes we did but we picked up a few good ones on or before NSD...
I think ALL KY fans have been impressed with the job Stoops and Staff have done recruiting... albeit....without a winning season. Yet.... Unlike the Big Blue mouth of KSR I won't preach doom and gloom/winning/Bowling on the 2015, season #3, for this Staff.... They keep working hard and we will get to the other side... It will happen... Maybe this year maybe not...

We play in the SEC and though we might be better wins will be difficult... Always will be in this League... We can be better in 2015 and still loose... Been watching SEC ball for many years PV... A few games down at Neyland (in-laws UT fans).... We've been beat on by better teams for years... I think Stoops gives us our best shot ever at UK for fans to see competitive SEC ball... Good luck to your Vols, I've always been treated great when down there....
 
As a UT fan, that has to hurt. Because you all have a rich tradition. And it's sad that Fulmer went out that way. I still wonder why to this day he didn't recruit Randall Cobb harder.

But trust me, even though last years class fell apart, I was more than pleased. Our class fell to the low 30's, but thats still better than what UK has traditionally done.
Personally I wasn't a big Fulmer fan. The Cobb deal apparently we were slow to evaluate (IDK how) and saw him in a WR roll than a QB but his heart was set on playing QB. Cobb is well liked around these parts and is considered the #1 player that "got away". Love watching him play. I was a big fan of Tim Couch but IMO Cobb did more for his team than Tim did. JMO.
 
I had always heard that UT wasn't as high on Cobb because he was only a 3* prospect. Fulmer had went for higher rated prospects because that's what you're supposed to do. Cobb was gonna be a backup plan in case those guys didn't commit. Then toward the end of the process when UT didn't get their guy, they made a late offer to Cobb. But Cobb stayed committed to UK because he had gave his word to them. Now thats the story I heard.

What makes it stranger was I read that Fulmer would pass Cobb's high school every day on his way to work. That is just bizzare.
 
I had always heard that UT wasn't as high on Cobb because he was only a 3* prospect. Fulmer had went for higher rated prospects because that's what you're supposed to do. Cobb was gonna be a backup plan in case those guys didn't commit. Then toward the end of the process when UT didn't get their guy, they made a late offer to Cobb. But Cobb stayed committed to UK because he had gave his word to them. Now thats the story I heard.

What makes it stranger was I read that Fulmer would pass Cobb's high school every day on his way to work. That is just bizzare.
He thought Cobb was money in the bag if he wanted him. Fulmer was very arrogant.
 
You do realize a "troll" is someone who is spreading false info, right?

That's not what a troll is. A troll is someone that says stupid things just for the sake of starting a fight. No rational person can deny that Marrow has clearly improved recruiting at UK a lot. Even to Tennessee levels. Bringing up 5 late flips served no purpose other than picking a fight.

And yes we did lose 5 players at the end but in all 5 cases we got players that are better including Westry who might end up starting this year.
 
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We are so luck to have this staff. I've never been more excited about the direction of the program.
 
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The great thing is even though we lost some guys late, the staff had a plan in place to replace them. Some were upgrades. We've never seen that sort of preparation with UK football. Never. And that's what makes Marrow so valuable.
 
One of the main reasons Marrow stayed instead of bolting for Michigan was the UK fan base and #BBN. He has stated this on numerous occasions. He uses the fans to help recruit (as he points out in this interview).
I think so long as the fans are excited and supporting of the program he will be happy here but if the day comes where he losses that support or, heaven forbid, the fan base turns negative - watch out.
 
The great thing is even though we lost some guys late, the staff had a plan in place to replace them. Some were upgrades. We've never seen that sort of preparation with UK football. Never. And that's what makes Marrow so valuable.



That was vewry important,in years past they would have no clue what to do.I think the big loss was Hamilton.
 
But didn't you all lose 4-5 good recruits last year a couple of weeks before signing day?
Yep. It still managed to be a pretty good class, though. Our defensive backfield got an enormous upgrade with this class.
 
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