Mandel: NCAA Desire to Block Grad Transfers Absurd
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Personally, I think the graduate transfer rule stinks. All it does is give an athlete another year of eligibility, and that wasn't what the rule was created for.
No player gains an extra year of eligibility due to this rule.
WildcatfaninOhio
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The rule does not give another year of eligibility. It allows for immediate transfer without sitting out a year IF the player has eligibility left and IF they have finished their undergrad degree. It's a great rule that benefits the true student-athlete.
Appears you don't understand the rule. Nobody gets an extra year of eligibility from it.
Blocking it shows they care nothing about the students. If a normal student graduates from a university and wants to attend grad school at another university he/she can. These kids are supposedly "normal students who play sports". So if they still have remaining eligibility they should be allowed to play immediately since they finished their initial obligation to the first institution.
The only problem I have with the rule is that it actually punishes a school for redshirting a player and they do not get his redshirt senior year which could possibly be his best year. A school puts time and money into helping the player improve both mentally and physically and do not get the last year of his eligibility. I have never liked the rule. It gives the big boys a chance to use lesser teams as a farm system and swoop in and get a player that suits their needs. A Taxi squad for the big boys.
The truth is most of these kids are not actually using the rule for something academic but for athletic competition reasons.
The truth is most of these kids are not actually using the rule for something academic but for athletic competition reasons.
That's true but I think it's a risk to red shirting a kid. You also have guys who just graduate in 3 years. And the student shouldn't be punished for working hard and finishing his degree on time or early. At that point he fulfilled his initial obligation to the school, to play until he graduated which is what the scholarship is for....an education.
I also think if a player plays at Davidson and improves enough by his post grad senior season he should be allowed to better his situation and give himself the best chance and exposure to achieve his goals. Just as a normal student is allowed to apply to a better med school than the one his/her current school where they received their undergrad may offer.
For example if I went to UK for Political Science and then applied to UK Law and Harvard Law. Got accepted to both. I'd go to Harvard because it's likely better for my future and will open more doors. Even though it was UK who gave me a scholarship that gave me that opportunity.
Guys, I understand that it doesn't give them 5 years. I am just saying that it gives them an extra year, to go to another school, without sitting out. I do not believe that it is fair to the school he transfers/graduates from. How would all of you feel if Poy decided to go to UL next year, as a grad transfer?
So, a player attends college, does what he's supposed to do academically, and just because he goes to another school to finish his career it's a bad thing. Asinine. We don't tell coaches who are in the middle of a contract that if they decide to leave that school that they have to wait a year to coach at the new job. As ong as the guidelines are followed I don't see the problem.
He graduated. It doesn't matter. He finished his commitment to a university. He should be free to make the best decision for him at that point and by be punished.
Now before graduation is another thing altogether and you have to one year rule to prevent recruiting them away from a school. And that wouldn't be fair to the original school.
WildcatfaninOhio
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If things were truly FAIR, every school would be held to offering to cover all college expenses for as long as the athlete was academically and athletically eligible. But as it is now the schools offer one year scholarships, renewable each year at the discretion of the athletic department. So basically, players can be cut from the team and left with no source of money to cover their education.
If it's FAIR that you're looking for let's fix it so that it works both ways.
The "big boys" have been swooping in since the dawn of humanity, right or wrong.
We live in a capitalist, consumer-driven culture where the haves take from the have-nots. It would be counter-intuitive to not allow the vultures at the top to swoop in for the first rights.
I don't understand why a graduate transfer gets a total of 7 years eligibility. That doesn't seem fair....
hahaha just kidding.
hahaha just kidding.
I'm still not sure where you are getting this "extra year" from. They transfer and play immediately at another school or they stay at their school and play that next year. Either way there is no extra year gained.
I agree that there needs to be changes in the way SSs are given. I think they should be for five years or until the player graduates which ever comes first.
I seem to remember that there is a stipulation in the Grad student rule that you can only transfer if your present school doesn't offer grad school in your major.
I seem to remember that there is a stipulation in the Grad student rule that you can only transfer if your present school doesn't offer grad school in your major.
This is true, which is why transfers often end up selecting a masters program that may not even have anything to do with their undergrad degree. And the school lets them enroll like that.
I agree with this. I would amend the rule a little bit. I would allow graduate transfers for guys who have not red-shirted. This effects football more than basketball. Russell Wilson is the perfect example for that. I just wonder if the trend continues, if teams will not use red-shirt seasons as much due to the possibility of this happening.
you are right....the NCAA should come up with rules to help fans feel a certain way about things. screw the players and what they want...none of this should be about them.
If most of these type transfers were about academics I would likely agree with you. However since most of these transfers have little to do with academics and are all about athletics I disagree.
IMO the student athlete should be required to stay at his present school which has put a lot of effort and dollars into his development for that final year of eligibility if he wants to compete in athletics. He has the option of going anywhere he wishes as long as he doesn't compete in athletics if it is truly about academics.
