Man I hope The South Region is still in play for us
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I would rather be a 4 seed in Louisville. Than a 2-3 out west. I think our fans can play a big difference in sweet 16 and elite 8
With us not being a 1 seed who knows. That bunch is unpredictable. I guess the worst case scenario is they get sent out here to the Pepsi Center. I'd like that, but it would blow for most of BBN. I guess the last time UK played out here was when the '85 team lost to St. Johns in what was then McNichols arena. Sure weren't many UK fans there, but this one was.
Its in the bylaws that UNC gets anywhere in North Carolina to play and Duke cannot play anywhere further than 50 miles from Cameron Indoor stadium.
Are they going stress that this year? All I remember hearing last year was geography, geography, geography. I wish the selection committee was a little bit more consistent with how they do things.
Think Louisville is almost certain if we area 2 or a 3 seed. I think it gets a little dicey if we fall to a 4 because what 1 seed wants to play UK in a virtual home game. Probably just depends on who gets that one seed in the South.
The 2 line is supposed to go by the S-Curve this year.
One thing that could help is that teams from the same conference won't be matched. So if Kansas is a 1, Oklahoma can't be their 2, for instance.
Way too many variables at the moment to figure it out.
No. It's geography.
They did put this in tho:
The committee will then place the No. 2 seeds in each region in true seed list order. The committee may relax the principle of keeping teams as close to their area of natural interest for seeding teams on the No. 2 line to avoid, for example, the overall No. 5 seed being sent to the same region as the overall No. 1 seed. The committee will not compromise the principle of keeping teams from the same conference in separate regions.
notice "May"
My thought on this.........unless it's 1 vs 5 or 4 vs 8.......they are gonna go geography still IMO.
They did put this in tho:
The committee will then place the No. 2 seeds in each region in true seed list order. The committee may relax the principle of keeping teams as close to their area of natural interest for seeding teams on the No. 2 line to avoid, for example, the overall No. 5 seed being sent to the same region as the overall No. 1 seed. The committee will not compromise the principle of keeping teams from the same conference in separate regions.
notice "May"
My thought on this.........unless it's 1 vs 5 or 4 vs 8.......they are gonna go geography still IMO.
We can still play in Louisville if we win out, and look aesthetically pleasing while winning out
Even if we were a 1 seed, that wouldn't matter. If we were the last 1 seed, we'd be shipped out West more than likely
Hey it worked for Duke last year, they had a cakewalk all the way to the title
For Duke, no. Duke hasn't even played in NC arena as a 1-seed since 1966. I don't count first and second round games because of the POD system. I'm referring to sweet 16 and elite 8 games. UNCheat I don't know about as a 2 seed or lower, other than POD system games in the first two rounds.
In theory with it based on geography, the West should be the worst region. So it might not be too awful if they did send us out there
The other part of that is teams from the same conference are protected from playing each other if they are top four seeds.
So if Kansas is number 3 and Oklahoma is number 6, for instance, Oklahoma would have to be moved anyway.
There are just so many possibilities in play right now.
Right exactly.
That's why predicting 1st weekend sites is a ton easier than picking where a team will end up regionally.
Depends where your at on your seed line PLUS what other teams are on that line.
Right now Lunardi projects Xavier and Michigan St in St. Louis. Both are currently on a 2 seed line.
I doubt it.
Most likely regions if we are a 4 seed are Denver, Spokane with an outside chance at OK City (if we are the best 4)
If we are a 3 seed = Probably Providence
If we are a 2 seed = then maybe St. Louis
If we are a 3 seed = Probably Providence
If we are a 2 seed = then maybe St. Louis
Right now what we are looking at is
1) Brooklyn = Villanova (1) and Miami (3)
2) Providence = Maryland (3) and West Virginia (3)
3) Des Monies = Kansas (1) and Iowa (2)
4) Raleigh = Virginia (1) and UNC (2)
5) OK City = Oklahoma (1) and UK (4)
6) St. Louis = Michigan St. (2) and Xavier (2)
7) Spokane = Oregon (3) and Arizona (4)
8) Denver = Duke (4) and Iowa St. (4)
So that gives a pretty good indication of when the sites fill up
1) Brooklyn = Villanova (1) and Miami (3)
2) Providence = Maryland (3) and West Virginia (3)
3) Des Monies = Kansas (1) and Iowa (2)
4) Raleigh = Virginia (1) and UNC (2)
5) OK City = Oklahoma (1) and UK (4)
6) St. Louis = Michigan St. (2) and Xavier (2)
7) Spokane = Oregon (3) and Arizona (4)
8) Denver = Duke (4) and Iowa St. (4)
So that gives a pretty good indication of when the sites fill up
I wouldn't mind being the 7 in that bracket.
Play Michigan and Xavier in St. Louis. Get the ND/WVU winner in the Sweet Sixteen in Louisville.
Yeah me too.
I'm actually beginning to wonder just in general if it's better to be a 6/7 than 4/5. Obviously tough first round games in theory but your closer to home. Home court is so huge I think i'd be willing to make that tradeoff
I'm waiting to see if this happens.
If I'm the top 2 seed and my natural region is open (the 1s from my conference didn't go there already) and they place me in a different region, if I was that team Id be pissed
With the pod system it certainly can be.
Over time I think being a 4 is still better. Any given year and depending on matchups, that may not be the case.
Definitely easier to get to the Elite 8 as a 6 than a 5.
I took a look back over the last 12 years or so, not to see what they've done with UNCheat and Duke in particular, but rather to see if any 2,3,4,5 or 6 (UK's likely range) seeds have been placed in regions where the regionals were very close to campus or in their home state.
Most of the regionals in recent years have been in domes and/or very large pro arenas in urban areas that in most cases do not have a contending NCAA program nearby. The only precedents I could find involved Texas schools:
*Baylor (3 seed) placed in the Houston region, 2010
*Texas (2 seed) placed in the Houston region, 2008
*Texas A&M (3 seed) placed in the San Antonio region, 2007
It's important to note that all of these involved schools which have mediocre road followings, and that the sites were domes. There were a few other "candidates" (i.e., 2-6 seeds) in the time frame examined, but they were not placed in the nearby regional (e.g., 2 seed Missouri was not placed in the St. Louis regional in 2012)
I didn't examine Duke and UNCheat, because the only times the regional round has been in North Carolina in the last 20 years were 1998 (Greensboro) and 2008 (Charlotte). In both seasons, the Holes were a #1 seed... which, of course, UK won't be.
There's almost no precedent in recent years one way or the other re: the possibility of UK being placed in the Louisville bracket as a non-#1 seed. I think it's unlikely; it would seem unfair to whatever 1 seed is placed there.
The thing its so much based on geography right now but you have to factor where your at one each seed line and also who else is on that line.
It makes it virtually impossible to predict region
You can take a good shot at predicting it the day before.
Right now, there are way too many moving parts. I don't think anyone is 100% locked in on the 1 line even. The other lines are even messier.
Right now, there are way too many moving parts. I don't think anyone is 100% locked in on the 1 line even. The other lines are even messier.
the committee will do whatever they want. You cant take them for what they say, they say they will do things a certain way, and then they don't. Last year Wisconsin and Duke should have been on the same side, but instead, 4 of the top 6 teams were on Kentuckys side, and Duke literally had nobody in their bracket, or on their side, and then played a 7 seed in the final 4
