LA Fires

[BankerCat12]

I havent followed as closely as many I would assume. I know they are in a drought and the forest floors are primed for a catastrophe but has the exact reason for the fires been addressed? Was it someone camping that started it or could it have been arson?

The pictures look like pure hell on earth and feel sorry for everyone involved. I cannot imagine losing everything and then dealing with the insurance companies, etc. Its a pain in the ass to get a roof replaced.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

No one’s sure exactly what caused it yet. Certainly could have been arson. There are a myriad of things that could have caused it. For some reason everyone else in the world have decided it was either arson, climate change, poor management, or LA wanting to burn itself down to prep for the Olympics (clearly the easiest way to do so)

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Mrs O' Leary's cow.

Check that, it is LA. Mrs. Hernandez cow.

 

[FirewithFire]

The homeless have been caught setting fires. That's been going on for awhile. Some say masked men are setting fires. Could be some jackass flipped a cigarette out the window.

Then you go into the LA 2028 smart city Olympics conspiracy, but those never turn out to be right.

California has been told a thousand times to clear out the dead brush and whatnot to prevent this sort of thing, but the rainbow warriors won't let them disturb a dead stick. They also won't let them cut out the invasive trees that are nothing more than huge fire sticks. Then you have mother nature sending huge gusts of wind across the whole area.

DEI hires and poor management is for sure a contributing factor. Those heads are rolling.

So it's a systemic failure. Like most things in this country the true cause is obfuscated by fear, corruption, and power struggles.

 

[JumperJack]

Lots of apologists saying these fires were uncontrollable once they got going due to no air support, etc.

That’s a deflection from the hard truth about what preceded them: policies that caused too much fuel and too little preparation. Policies that focus on utter nonsense like free healthcare for illegals, DEI and prioritizing a fish instead of people and property.

The leftwing fantasy land that is California did this to itself.

And if you’re naive enough to believe this has nothing to do with politics, you are a prime example of everything that went wrong, and will again in every place where similar polices reign.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Probably something political or a grand conspiracy.

I’ll throw jewish space lasers as my stab at it.

 

[Tskware]

The leftwing fantasy land that is California did this to itself.

And if you’re naive enough to believe this has nothing to do with politics, you are a prime example of everything that went wrong, and will again in every place where similar polices reign.

Sort of like the people in Western North Carolina that flooded themselves out of house and home, and washed out I-40? Or maybe you are a prime example of people who blame politics for everything.

Seriously, lots of reasons for wildfires, and several things can be true at the same time. Climate change has increased temperatures and dried out already dry areas making them even more susceptible to large fires. But, that doesn't mean public policies in California don't play a part as well. Start by acknowledging you are living in an arid area naturally prone to fires, and spend a LOT more money on infrastructure, like better and bigger reservoirs (almost all in the area were nearly full, one was empty because it was scheduled for repairs - which took way too long), better fire protection for new construction, larger water lines everywhere, and at the same time quit spending so much money on public unions (firefighters in LA make over $200K in salary + $90K in benefits per today's WSJ) and more on basic fire prevention, like natural fire breaks. I am not Smokey the Bear or a forest ranger, but there has to be ways to cut the fire risk down.

Or better yet, don't keep building houses and businesses on land that has burned in the past, and will do so again in the future, no different than don't keep putting houses and businesses on low lying land next to rivers that have flooded historically. It may look pretty, but will be a problem sooner or later. Lots of states in the west have wildfire problems because of the semi arid climate, Colorado for one. There is only so much you can do to fight nature.

Have to give some credit to Florida, I understand they are working on ways to make their properties near the water more able to withstand hurricanes and tropical storms. Makes sense to me.

 

[PTI (pti)]

I live in Louisiana. We keep getting crushed by hurricanes, have a major homeowners insurance crisis, and have plenty of political blame to throw around to (personally, I point the finger at the Democrats and the Republicans).

I'm not an expert. In fact, I'm just a goofball who reads the internet or whatever. But the way we live within our climate/environment is a very real problem, and my guess is that MAJOR changes need to be made to the way we build homes and live in the areas that we do. Unfortunately, that probably won't happen. But you can't just keep doing the same old thing, and then blaming public services for not being sufficient to bail you out.

If you're bored, look up Grand Isle. Or Venice, LA. Those places get absolutely demolished like every 5 years. And yet we just keep on rebuilding.

 

[JumperJack]

the way we build homes and live in the areas that we do.

It comes down to this. Building in a known fire or flood surge zone is an enormous problem.

People will say that nature can be destructive no matter where you live. But some places are far more likely to face issues than others.

 

[80 Proof]

Well, LA 2.0 is trending on Twitter since Gavin Newsome announced they already have a plan in place and a team working on the rebuild. Referenced the Marshall plan to describe what he's doing.

I'd probably hold off on planning the rebuild until the fires are at least contained 🤷

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Happy to live up here where it mainly just snows a lot.

 

[Nightwish84]

It comes down to this. Building in a known fire or flood surge zone is an enormous problem.

People will say that nature can be destructive no matter where you live. But some places are far more likely to face issues than others.

Well hell, this is a much better and logical response than what you posted earlier about the left, DEI, caring about a fish, and illegals. It's like some weird tick where the first response has to be hyper partisan and once that's out of your system, logic and thoughtfulness returns lol.