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Kyle Tucker Says Dorian Baker is Built Like a Linebacker

Hands down the most physically imposing WR on the roster. Ton of speed, ton of size, ton of strength. Ideally, he becomes a similar presence to Kevin White. It's possible that Dawson tries to utilize him in that way.
 
Hands down the most physically imposing WR on the roster. Ton of speed, ton of size, ton of strength. Ideally, he becomes a similar presence to Kevin White. It's possible that Dawson tries to utilize him in that way.

Don't think Baker has White's speed.
 
Sounds like he's impressive, regardless. Would like to see how he's doing.

 
Baker has always looked the part, but it didnt translate to production on the field. Lets hope that changes this season.
 
I wonder what he did to draw that remark out of Maggard?

I'm wondering the same. Seeing a lot of glowing reviews across the board though. Aside from Baker, I've seen them on Timmons, Westry, Baity, Beckham, Randolph (I'm glad that 4 CB's are getting good reviews), Conrad, Hatcher, Swindle, Towles, and Barker. Seems like the team has made a ton of growth overall. Very good news.
 
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On the KSTv video in KSR it showed Baker making some nice one handed grabs. Could be that or the fact he looks like the Hulk.
I guess that could just as easily be a reaction to his physical presence as his performance. Agree with all that the kid looks like something every DB wants to see coming from a distance.
 
Baker has always looked the part, but it didnt translate to production on the field. Lets hope that changes this season.

Last season Baker was more worried about how many sweatbands he put on his arms than anything else. If he focuses on improving he is a surefire NFL receiver
 
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Baker has always looked the part, but it didnt translate to production on the field. Lets hope that changes this season.

I get what you're saying but he was also a true freshman... He threw some nasty blocks, and if I had to guess he will do very well this year and years to come. He has everything needed to be a good NFL WR
 
I get what you're saying but he was also a true freshman... He threw some nasty blocks, and if I had to guess he will do very well this year and years to come. He has everything needed to be a good NFL WR

Yes his blocking was incredible. But theres no reason he shouldnt be dominating. No reason at all. Hopefully he will this season.
 
learning to run good routes against sec db's is imperative. you cant just manhandle the db's we typically go up against.... shoot, most of the west has db's all over 185# and 6'1" with safety's in the 6'3" 215# range. having good hands and being impressive looking physically is only a fraction of the equation.
 
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Yes his blocking was incredible. But theres no reason he shouldnt be dominating. No reason at all. Hopefully he will this season.

I expect him to have a great year... Maybe even be the #1 receiver. He looks like the receivers that go to Top 10 schools, honestly I think he has the talent too. Only thing I wonder about is if he can actually get separation. Should be a fun year. Our offense has a lot of potential.
 
learning to run good routes against sec db's is imperative. you cant just manhandle the db's we typically go up against.... shoot, most of the west has db's all over 185# and 6'1" with safety's in the 6'3" 215# range. having good hands and being impressive looking physically is only a fraction of the equation.

To be fair, Baker was built like a safety last season. Wasn't uncommon for him to pop into the frame on television and decleat linebackers. Dude is physically imposing, but it takes more than being physically imposing against elite teams. You have to play physical and be a good route runner, and you need to be able to catch through contact.

Fwiw though, regarding the size of CB's on elite defensive teams in the west, it's encouraging that we got about 4 different CB's that are 6'3, rangy, and athletic in this past class. The wide receivers, as well as the staff have raved about their size and athleticism. WR's saying that it's helping them get better on offense, staff saying that it's helping the defense, everybody benefits. Stoops decided to go after big, athletic CB's after the LSU game, so if anything positive came from that game, it was that.
 
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Baker has no doubt put in the work during summer and so.has lots of other key players. Over all an awesome looking team. Just need to remember some allot of these kids are very young and still raw but down the road at some point Baker will be name that every SEC defense will be aware of.
 
He was a true frosh. What true frosh dominated at UK at WR, ever?

Yes but what true frosh WR has ever had the physical skills of this kid?

I expect him to have a great year... Maybe even be the #1 receiver. He looks like the receivers that go to Top 10 schools, honestly I think he has the talent too. Only thing I wonder about is if he can actually get separation. Should be a fun year. Our offense has a lot of potential.

I think Dawson will help. Brown really didnt use Baker much. Not sure if that was because Baker was somehow disengaged or if it was just a Brown under utilizing an asset.
 
Maybe Towles tended to lock in on one receiver, often Timmons, and didn't get through his progressions fast enough. Outside routes take a little more time to develop usually and our OL was not up to giving Towles 5-6 sec to look around.
 
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Yes but what true frosh WR has ever had the physical skills of this kid?



I think Dawson will help. Brown really didnt use Baker much. Not sure if that was because Baker was somehow disengaged or if it was just a Brown under utilizing an asset.

I never have been a Neal Brown supporter... I was with him for about a year and then I gave up. He under utilized all our major assets the past couple years. It was just a weird game plan every week, he would go completely away from something that was working and just run stagnant offense.

Can't remember a WR that looked as physical as him since Green-Beckham... But I'm not about to try to compare their talent.
 
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And those assets were what? True freshmen in the SEC? Most of the offensive calls were dictated by what we could do or more accurately, couldn't do. Brown did a good job with what he had to work with. If you can't see that I don't think you are being honest about the state of the program. He inherited an offense that was at the very bottom of all of college football for two years. There were basically no D1 skill players except Towles and he had to be rescued. The OL was a wreck. A lot of what you are going to cheer for on offense this year is Coach Brown's work. Look at what Brown did at Texas Tech if you want to see his offense.
 
And those assets were what? True freshmen in the SEC? Most of the offensive calls were dictated by what we could do or more accurately, couldn't do. Brown did a good job with what he had to work with. If you can't see that I don't think you are being honest about the state of the program. He inherited an offense that was at the very bottom of all of college football for two years. There were basically no D1 skill players except Towles and he had to be rescued. The OL was a wreck. A lot of what you are going to cheer for on offense this year is Coach Brown's work. Look at what Brown did at Texas Tech if you want to see his offense.

No, a lot of what we're going to cheer for is the work of the staff as a whole. Brown didn't coach the running backs, the wide receivers, the tight ends, or the offensive line. He coached the QB's, and he called plays and prepped the offense in the weeks ahead. He also recruited certain areas, but Dawson has already proven to be just as effective, if not more effective in recruiting.
Dawson will be the one preparing the team throughout the week (that the entire staff assembled, not just Brown). Dawson will be the one coaching the QB's (and his resume suggests that he'll do it at a higher level), and Dawson will call plays. I'll credit Brown with picking up a few guys on the team, and helping Towles better his game, but outside of that, he doesn't deserve any more credit than the stats that he put on the boards for UK's offense last season, and he has to share that credit with the players that actually went out there and executed.
 
Just what I said, if you don't think Brown inherited a train wreck you are not honest. Go to the NCAA statistics for the two years before he came and the depth chart when he arrived. Coach Brown was here for two seasons and if you think you can go from the bottom of all of college ball to being competitive in the SEC in a year with our talent level you are delusional. This rebuild is a several year process on both sides of the ball.

The whole staff contributed but Brown ran the offense and the offensive coaching and recruiting. He deserves credit for building this offense. Dawson may be better but he has never had primary play calling responsibility before and was in effect, in the same position as Elliot is now at UK, an understudy to a HC who is very good at coaching one side of the ball. Brown had great offenses as a true OC at TT. You can look that up too and of course Brown benefited from the work done there before he took the job.

Of course the players play the game but getting them to UK when we were a dumpster fire and getting the basic offense structured (Dawson and Brown run the same basic scheme) was up to Brown. This is a silly argument. Brown deserves a lot of credit for helping us through a very tough patch. If Dawson does well he deserves credit for building on what had been done the past two years.
 
Yes but what true frosh WR has ever had the physical skills of this kid?



I think Dawson will help. Brown really didnt use Baker much. Not sure if that was because Baker was somehow disengaged or if it was just a Brown under utilizing an asset.

Well, first year Juco Stevie Johnson did not dominate. First year Burton did not dominate. Yeast had under 350 yards his frosh season. Cobb had 197 yards receiving in split duty his frosh season. Freshmen WRs rarely dominate. Most are probably RSed.
 
Just what I said, if you don't think Brown inherited a train wreck you are not honest. Go to the NCAA statistics for the two years before he came and the depth chart when he arrived. Coach Brown was here for two seasons and if you think you can go from the bottom of all of college ball to being competitive in the SEC in a year with our talent level you are delusional. This rebuild is a several year process on both sides of the ball.

The whole staff contributed but Brown ran the offense and the offensive coaching and recruiting. He deserves credit for building this offense. Dawson may be better but he has never had primary play calling responsibility before and was in effect, in the same position as Elliot is now at UK, an understudy to a HC who is very good at coaching one side of the ball. Brown had great offenses as a true OC at TT. You can look that up too and of course Brown benefited from the work done there before he took the job.

Of course the players play the game but getting them to UK when we were a dumpster fire and getting the basic offense structured (Dawson and Brown run the same basic scheme) was up to Brown. This is a silly argument. Brown deserves a lot of credit for helping us through a very tough patch. If Dawson does well he deserves credit for building on what had been done the past two years.

I get that, Brown did inherit a train wreck, and surely enough, at time, he played like he inherited a train wreck. Also, it's been noted that Brown did not play the type of offense that Stoops wanted, and that's why after he left, Stoops went a different direction in terms of scheme. No, they do not have the same basic scheme. They're classified as OC's that use the same offensive philosophies, but the comparison ends there. The players have said that Brown often designed plays that were complicated, and seemed redundant many of the times. Dawson's play-calling has been described as much more simple, and easy to grasp. Brown also rarely took advantage of basic things, like throwing the ball downfield. You can not, I repeat, can not succeed in the SEC as a passing team if you don't stretch the field. He would just throw screen, after screen, after screen, and run it up the middle with our QB on 3rd and 10 late in the 4th quarter. That's simply terrible play-calling. He's not stretching the field, allowing teams to stack the box with no real threat of throwing the ball downfield, other than a couple of times. Also, he was terrible for not letting our running backs get into a rhythm. Dawson coming in, putting the guards into a 3 point stance and getting them to fire off the ball and being physical, and picking Boom Williams as the first string RB, and ruling out "RB by committee" are two of the best things that he could have done for the offense.

While he did good at Texas Tech, this is not Texas Tech, and his style of playcalling didn't make anything easier for our offense, as the players themselves admit. I also like the idea of having an offense similar to Baylor (like Dawson said he intends to run the offense), much more than I like having an offense similar to Oklahoma State (how Brown has said he intends to run the offense in the past). Dawson's offensive philosophy revolves around having an explosive offense that can stretch the field far and wide, starting with basic things such as where receivers line up. A playbook designed to lead to explosive plays fits our personnel much more than a playbook revolved around short passes, screens, dives, and QB sneaks.

The offense has a ton of potential if used correctly, and I feel that Dawson will use it correctly. Much more-so than Brown did.
 
I never have been a Neal Brown supporter... I was with him for about a year and then I gave up. He under utilized all our major assets the past couple years. It was just a weird game plan every week, he would go completely away from something that was working and just run stagnant offense.

Can't remember a WR that looked as physical as him since Green-Beckham... But I'm not about to try to compare their talent.

Really just SMH. With the limited options Brown had he used overly simple offense for his liking and I believe he even said that he tried to keep from over-scheming. Just look at the South Carolina game where JoJo Kemp ran the same play over and over. I think he did the best he could with what he had, and I think everyone should realize that the last two years were going to be rough no matter who was calling he plays.
 
Well, first year Juco Stevie Johnson did not dominate. First year Burton did not dominate. Yeast had under 350 yards his frosh season. Cobb had 197 yards receiving in split duty his frosh season. Freshmen WRs rarely dominate. Most are probably RSed.

Baker is physically miles ahead of those guys at the same age. Physically, hes a superior specimen than any of those guys even at their peak.

Keep in mind, Im just discussing physical tools. Not route running, focus etc.
 
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