Kiffin Could Be One and Done Again
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A cat has nothing on this guy. He has more life in him than a politician. Just horrible but yet they keep hiring him.
Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him leave Bama. He was never a good fit. Was a curious hire. And cost Bama a shot at the national title by refusing to run the ball against OSU.
What is that these Professional and College teams find so Appealing about Kiffen?
He has been a cancer every where he's been the last 7 years!
I just don't understand it. Maybe Daddy has connections!
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He has been a cancer every where he's been the last 7 years!
I just don't understand it. Maybe Daddy has connections!
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What he did with that offense this year turned a lot of heads (Top 5 and as high as #2 nationally in all the offensive efficiency metrics) ... and covered up for a relatively Charmin soft Saban-Kirby defense.
I think he probably stays for one more year because he's kind of got Saban by the short hairs, but who knows.
I think he probably stays for one more year because he's kind of got Saban by the short hairs, but who knows.
When the rubber met the road he called plays that produce four consecutive three and out drives to end the 1st half giving OSU's defense plenty of rest, the entire team confidence, and OSU's offense plenty of opportunities. What he did during the season may have turned lots of heads but it also turned around the first playoff game that ended in a loss for Bama. A head turning flop of it's own.
I don't think he called a particularly great team either, but proof is in the pudding. He built the best offensive Alabama's had under Saban by a decent margin, and he's either gone or getting a big raise from Alabama.
They need him a lot more than he needs them ... which was not the case a year ago.
I'm beginning to think Harris winds up someplace (almost) unexpected. Blue and Maize? It might happen yet. I'm not sure he still figures in our plans regardless, though perhaps.
Which made no sense because they had huge road graders on the OL and the best collection of RBS in the nation.
Classic square peg/round hole.
If people really think Kiffin called that game without Saban's approval on play calling in the 2nd half...idk what to tell you. People want to blame Kiffin for that loss, when his offense put up 35 points and had 400+ yards of offense. They threw 36 passes and ran it 34 times...pretty balanced, and a lot of those passes were on the last two drives when they had to throw. The only major playcalling issue I'd put on Kiffin (and Saban) is the INT play after the bad punt by OSU when Bama was down by 6 with 8-9 minutes left. They should have ran the ball and thrown safe passes and probably score to go up 1. Do they hang on? Potentially doubtful the way their D played. The D was shredded, and while it played better in the 2nd half...it still allowed OSU to drive down the field on the first possession of the 3rd quarter and score to get the lead and then allow Elliot to clinch the game with that horrible play at the end.. Not your ideal bookends of sorts there IMO. All of my rambling aside, I personally put almost all of the blame on Saban for the loss, followed by Kirby Smart, and finally Kiffin.
Kiffin probably should stay one more year unless he wants to coach another QB that is not that good of a passer in 49ers land.
Kiffin probably should stay one more year unless he wants to coach another QB that is not that good of a passer in 49ers land.
Tell me something I don't know. I tell you the numbers that count are the ones on the scoreboard.
Yeah he put up a lot of numbers during the season on the back of Amari Cooper but when it came down to winning the game Bama is known for winning what did he do? He lost.
The proof is in the pudding!
Bama has proven to be a whole team running the ball down your throat and hurting you by going over the top when you stack the box to stop the run. They've won multiple championships with that whole team method. What the heck has Kiffen won? He did not even get to the championship game with a championship caliber team such as Alabama.
Did you not watch the horizontal passing game being stopped repeatedly by OSU? The game was in hand 21-6 and Bama of old would have crushed OSU by playing keep away and scoring more TD's while keeping their defense fresh. I'll remind you after going up 21-6 Kiffen called four consecutive three and outs! This is exactly the time OSU got back in the game! Kiffen gave us the horizontal flop.
You say he's great and I say great at a minimum gets to a championship game. I'll take traditional Alabama against your Kiffen puffery all day. So tell me what championship game has Kiffen even got to? Until you can do that I say this to your argument---BALDERDASH! Now that's some pudding for you to consider.
Thanks you can't have a Lane Kiffin thread without a complimentary picture.
Originally posted by Chuckinden:
I think his wife wants to be closer to the beach.
Exactly. Saban coached Bama teams don't lose up 21-6. They continue to run the ball down your throat. Even if the gains are only 3-4 yards at first, in the late part of the 3rd and then the 4th quarter, those 3-4 yard runs turn into 7-15 yard runs. Its a cumulative effect.
Instead Lane outsmarted himself. Clearly costing them the OSU game. And nearly costing them the Auburn game.
I need to self censor better at times. "One and done" is too tempting a phrase in this situation.Originally posted by TheFolker:
I'd like to be closer to her.Originally posted by Chuckinden:
I think his wife wants to be closer to the beach.
This post was edited on 1/21 3:06 PM by southindycat
You mean other than this one?
And this one?
I don't love the guy, just pointing out why he's in demand. I'm not the one scrambling to keep him while letting half of my defensive assistants walk. That's Nick Saban.
Never understood the lane kiffin obsession and why so many go out of their way to hate on him...with the exception of the 2 seasons he spent as HC of UT...
Forget all these offensive "gurus" and hot young play callers today day...Sumlin, Lincoln Riley, rich rod, Chad Morris, Malzahn, anyone from the Oregon and Chip Kelly school, anybody from the "air raid" coaching tree...Kiffin has been one the best offensive minds and play callers in the game for 10-12 years...and he doesn't do it with a lot of fancy new age schemes...just a pretty standard pro-style...
Forget all the "ace" recruiters...LK has been one of the best...not only does he haul in the talent...he produces at record breaking levels with it...
I mean this year at Bama...he took a guy who started out as an RB and then held the clipboard, and turned him into an all SEC QB...
Lane is about like Urban Meyer and John Calipari...pretty much a turd in the eyes of the masses...but everyone would take his services in a heart beat...
Forget all these offensive "gurus" and hot young play callers today day...Sumlin, Lincoln Riley, rich rod, Chad Morris, Malzahn, anyone from the Oregon and Chip Kelly school, anybody from the "air raid" coaching tree...Kiffin has been one the best offensive minds and play callers in the game for 10-12 years...and he doesn't do it with a lot of fancy new age schemes...just a pretty standard pro-style...
Forget all the "ace" recruiters...LK has been one of the best...not only does he haul in the talent...he produces at record breaking levels with it...
I mean this year at Bama...he took a guy who started out as an RB and then held the clipboard, and turned him into an all SEC QB...
Lane is about like Urban Meyer and John Calipari...pretty much a turd in the eyes of the masses...but everyone would take his services in a heart beat...
I thought he was at UT for just one season?
And the difference between Meyer and Cal is they have won something...Kiffin...not so much when he has been the man in charge.
He was a great coordinator at USC and did a good job last yearOriginally posted by WildCard:
Other than be Monte Kiffin's son, what has Kiffin the Younger ever really accomplished?
Peace
This post was edited on 1/20 3:23 PM by WildCard
Learn football
You need to research about Kiffin. At UT he had all kinds of violations in like 2-3 months. He pissed a lot people off in K'ville before he left. Then when he left, he tried to sway the UT commits to USC. He was only at UT one season.
Also, if he produces at record breaking levels, why did Al Davis try to force him to resign after only one year, saying he was a flat our liar and was bringing disgrace to the organization. Why was he fired at USC after only 2 1/2 seasons?
He is an ass and Nick Saban stays on his ass to show he won't tolerate any of his bullshit.
Don't care who he pissed off in Knoxville...and the statute of limitations is up on his violations...Coach Cal has some violations from his first go around as HC, he also didn't do so hot in the pros...
NFL doesn't give a hoot about college violations...and apparently colleges don't either because USC hired him, Bama hired him...and he could walk right into a number of HC and coordinator jobs around the country...
bill belichick is an ass with some violations who tanked his first go around as HC...urban meyer is an ass...jim tressel had some violations...pete carol rubs some folks the wrong way, has his share of violations, and also couldn't hack it in the pros at first, now look at him...the list of good coaches who've enjoyed great success but are also assholes and have some dirt on them is endless....
Al davis was crazier than a shithouse rat for the last 20 years of his reign and couldn't tell a football coach from a Jesuit knocking on his door...
I don't have time to look up all the stats...but I do know USC dominated while he was recruiting and calling the plays...I know they had 2 Heisman winners...I know that one season they had a thousand yd WR and another who came just a few yards short, two 1000 yd RBs, and a 3000 yd passer...the only team to do that...that's production...
I know Marqise Lee and Matt Barkely were players and put up numbers and won awards...
Amari Cooper was in the running for a Heisman...Kiffin made Blake Sims into an all SEC performer...Sims won the locker room and his upperclassmen buddies circled the wagons for him...but by all accounts from folks who have paid close attention, Sims isn't a top level QB...apparently he hasn't helped his case at the senior bowl and some scouts think he should switch positions...
I mean I don't know what else the guy has to do...he has a pretty nice track record as an assistant, and a winning record as a HC in college...
Saban can stay on his ass all he wants...thats what good HCs are supposed to do...I wish somebody had stayed on both our coordinators asses and said "that's enough of that bullshat" this past season...
This post was edited on 1/25 10:15 AM by truebluewildcat
NFL doesn't give a hoot about college violations...and apparently colleges don't either because USC hired him, Bama hired him...and he could walk right into a number of HC and coordinator jobs around the country...
bill belichick is an ass with some violations who tanked his first go around as HC...urban meyer is an ass...jim tressel had some violations...pete carol rubs some folks the wrong way, has his share of violations, and also couldn't hack it in the pros at first, now look at him...the list of good coaches who've enjoyed great success but are also assholes and have some dirt on them is endless....
Al davis was crazier than a shithouse rat for the last 20 years of his reign and couldn't tell a football coach from a Jesuit knocking on his door...
I don't have time to look up all the stats...but I do know USC dominated while he was recruiting and calling the plays...I know they had 2 Heisman winners...I know that one season they had a thousand yd WR and another who came just a few yards short, two 1000 yd RBs, and a 3000 yd passer...the only team to do that...that's production...
I know Marqise Lee and Matt Barkely were players and put up numbers and won awards...
Amari Cooper was in the running for a Heisman...Kiffin made Blake Sims into an all SEC performer...Sims won the locker room and his upperclassmen buddies circled the wagons for him...but by all accounts from folks who have paid close attention, Sims isn't a top level QB...apparently he hasn't helped his case at the senior bowl and some scouts think he should switch positions...
I mean I don't know what else the guy has to do...he has a pretty nice track record as an assistant, and a winning record as a HC in college...
Saban can stay on his ass all he wants...thats what good HCs are supposed to do...I wish somebody had stayed on both our coordinators asses and said "that's enough of that bullshat" this past season...
This post was edited on 1/25 10:15 AM by truebluewildcat
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