Has anyone listened to it or bought it yet? I have only heard one song and it is supposed to be here today. I ordered it from Amazon
Kendrick Lamar album
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I have. Solid effort. I give it a B+. The reason it doesn't get an A is because dude goes off on TOO many tangents. One or two is OK to me, but when every other track goes in a different direction...it's disconcerting. Rapsody kills his verse on "Complexion" tho! I'm gonna keep an eye on him in the future.
More disappointing than Eminem's descent from Em Show ------> Relapse. Much more disappointing seeing as how this was Kendrick's 2nd damn album.
I don't get it, but there's a lot of stuff I don't get about the current rap game.
I don't get it, but there's a lot of stuff I don't get about the current rap game.
I'm really digging this on the initial listen. Glad there are guys like Kanye and Kendrick out there pushing the envelope and experimenting.
I have been listening to it for a couple of days now and it is definitely different than GKMC. It reminds me a lot more of section. 80 but I like it. Blacker the Berry is my favorite right now, but Im sure a couple more will grow on me upon further listening.
Bingo, that was my exact thought after listening.
It's growing on me, but still not as 'fun' as I'd hoped. I appreciate it for what it is from an artistic standpoint, but it doesn't approach GKMC to me in terms of replay value. Seems like it should have been a 'winter' album...not exactly a bunch of stuff I want to roll my windows down to (Wesley, King Kunta, Hood Politics aside)
5 Fav Tracks:
Hood Politics
King Kunta
Wesley's Theory
Blacker the Berry
How Much a Dolla Cost
At least he didn't "sell out" as so many predicted. In fact, he basically went the COMPLETE opposite route. Interesting, but he's not too concerned with what anyone thinks. He said in an interview "when the world is happier, I'll make a happier album". Guess we'll see, but I'd bet the next one will be more in the GKMC mold. He seems like an artist who's gonna bring something a little different on each one, like most of the greats do/did.
Overall, I was a bit disappointed just b/c it wasn't what I was expecting, but I'm not mad. He's the best rapper out there, currently...not sure how that's even debatable.
It's really not a debate, unless you're one of the Lil Wayne/Drake kind of people. Kendrick has been different in everything he has put out and is total opposite of people like wayne and drake. I remember hearing Michael Jordan from Overly dedicated for the first time and he has been my favorite from then on.
I went to the GKMC concert in Louisville when he first came out with it and it was a good show.
I went to the GKMC concert in Louisville when he first came out with it and it was a good show.
I feel the same way. After hearing "i" as the lead single, I was afraid the album was going to be lighter and poppier, and then it came out absolutely nothing like what I had feared. You're right it's not nearly as much "fun" as GKMC was, but I do think it's a great album. I have absolutely no problem with some experimentation. He's not trying to put out a bunch of tracks that get played in the club.
Kendrick is just using his star power as the hottest rapper out there right now to express his feelings and to free his mind a bit. He put out what HE wanted to put out, not what everyone else wanted to hear. I dig that , far too many rappers try and replicate what others are doing and what is selling. Kendrick is a true artist and today that is refreshing. He will still jump on some tracks of other artist with the radio play stuff, but his own stuff, pure and straight from his mind / heart.
Pretty much, and that's exactly what he's said about it.
He'll be around for a long ass time, not too worried about my boy KDot.
He'll be around for a long ass time, not too worried about my boy KDot.
He really did kill it on that song. He did another one with Game called See No Evil and its badass also.
Of course he will. Just a shame he'll be slangin' electronics here soon. Learn rap game.Originally posted by B.B.d.K.:
Pretty much, and that's exactly what he's said about it.
He'll be around for a long ass time, not too worried about my boy KDot.
You only have so many albums to make. Today that number is less than it was years ago because of how music is consumed, or, more accurately, how it's not consumed. K Dot can quit right now and survive on his brand/legacy. That's why he was allowed to drop this as his sophomore album. Debate it however you wish, but the fact is, it's mediocre in terms of K. Dot potential. The political/society angle is something else, and again, you can feel however you feel about that. K. Dot has peaked, and is now heading towards the end of his prime rap run, and I think it's a shame that he only got 1 great (in terms of his potential) album out of it.
Time for K.Dot to put his boys on, try and build a label, and chill while the sun sets.
Lol. Overreact much?
I agree with what you say for MOST people. Feel like Kendrick is far from your "average" dude. He's special, and will remain so for quite awhile..."on his decline" Lol, good lord. He dropped his debut studio album 2 years ago. (and I was on him at least 5 years prior to that with OD & Section 80, which is pretty damn close to great)
Kendrick's raps are as good as ever on this one, it's just darker.
Still kinda pissed he's so stubborn about NOT using Dre, like he's trying to prove a point. Weak.
Has Gibbs peaked yet? What about Bronson? His album =
, which is what happens when your first single drops about a YEAR before the album, and the other best songs all come out early as well. The rest of the stuff on there, save a few, was meh.
KDot > Your favorite rapper. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, and probably for the next decade or so.
I was plenty critical of this one overall, but I'm not gonna jump off a cliff. You'd be just as mad if he came with some "fun" rhymes, and be saying he "sold out" TS. You just like to criticize, that's your thing. I get it.
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This post was edited on 3/24 3:57 PM by B.B.d.K.
I agree with what you say for MOST people. Feel like Kendrick is far from your "average" dude. He's special, and will remain so for quite awhile..."on his decline" Lol, good lord. He dropped his debut studio album 2 years ago. (and I was on him at least 5 years prior to that with OD & Section 80, which is pretty damn close to great)
Kendrick's raps are as good as ever on this one, it's just darker.
Still kinda pissed he's so stubborn about NOT using Dre, like he's trying to prove a point. Weak.
Has Gibbs peaked yet? What about Bronson? His album =
KDot > Your favorite rapper. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, and probably for the next decade or so.
I was plenty critical of this one overall, but I'm not gonna jump off a cliff. You'd be just as mad if he came with some "fun" rhymes, and be saying he "sold out" TS. You just like to criticize, that's your thing. I get it.
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This post was edited on 3/24 3:57 PM by B.B.d.K.
Kendrick is probably the best rapper (atleast of those that most people have heard of) but I don't think he is the best at making great albums.
Lupe was considered the best rapper for longer than Kendrick has been currently- but what exactly does lupe he have to show for it?
Nas has the same problem, to a lesser extent... Great rapper but when it comes to crafting great albums on a consistienly basis... Ehh not so much. Some people consider Pharoahe Monch to be the greatest rapper of all time, but his body of work is wildly inconsistent.
Kendrick currently has 1 extremely great album (gkmc), and a couple pretty good albums. It will be interesting to see how the rest of his career plays out.
Lupe was considered the best rapper for longer than Kendrick has been currently- but what exactly does lupe he have to show for it?
Nas has the same problem, to a lesser extent... Great rapper but when it comes to crafting great albums on a consistienly basis... Ehh not so much. Some people consider Pharoahe Monch to be the greatest rapper of all time, but his body of work is wildly inconsistent.
Kendrick currently has 1 extremely great album (gkmc), and a couple pretty good albums. It will be interesting to see how the rest of his career plays out.
Just listened to entire album, and reached the lyrics in "Mortal Man" when he asks if fans would respect him and his message if he is discredited for any reason, dies, etc. I immediately thought of Tupac, and how Kendrick realizes the serious influence he has now. I think he knows the risks that come with trying to use that power for real social change, and he's decided to do it anyways.
This post was edited on 3/25 8:08 AM by WettCat
This post was edited on 3/25 8:08 AM by WettCat
That boi bbdk off his rocker again.
Look, Kendrick is amazing, but, largely due to the drastically different game of rap, I don't personally believe you can put him over guys like Pac/Jay. There's a whole slew of guys I couldn't put him above simply because most of these guys had put out mulitple albums by the age Kendrick put out his first...which he was what, like 25ish? Idk, but it just takes longer for kids these days to crack the rap game. Hell, Action Bronson peaked with one of his first albums - Well Done - and then spent yearssss trying to crack the game so he could release what he just released this week. Now, he's made. He's golden. He can get fatter for a few years if he wants, or he could continue putting out shit. His choice. Point is the game is just so different. You aren't judged by the albums you put out. If that were the case, Bronson would have been crowned after Statik laced him with a cd full of beats that you won't hear on the radio. It's just marketing/buzz. It's why 'Ye has regressed while getting more and more popular. He reached that level where it's not about music at all. He's reached to alllll kinds of fan bases. Kendrick is starting that wave. He'll keep building different avenues and then do his label thingy.
Now, if you're talking battle rap I believe Kendrick coudl and would absolutely shred anybody. I think that's where most people are coming from with the GOAT talk because it sure as hell is not based on his discography so far...which is good, but we're talking all time greats here. You're talking about dudes who put out album after album year after year and just owned rap for extended periods of time. That's not possible to do in today's industry. Shit changes too quick. You gotta reinvent yourself. You gotta bring in new fans...
All because people like BBdk quit buying music. TS.
Look, Kendrick is amazing, but, largely due to the drastically different game of rap, I don't personally believe you can put him over guys like Pac/Jay. There's a whole slew of guys I couldn't put him above simply because most of these guys had put out mulitple albums by the age Kendrick put out his first...which he was what, like 25ish? Idk, but it just takes longer for kids these days to crack the rap game. Hell, Action Bronson peaked with one of his first albums - Well Done - and then spent yearssss trying to crack the game so he could release what he just released this week. Now, he's made. He's golden. He can get fatter for a few years if he wants, or he could continue putting out shit. His choice. Point is the game is just so different. You aren't judged by the albums you put out. If that were the case, Bronson would have been crowned after Statik laced him with a cd full of beats that you won't hear on the radio. It's just marketing/buzz. It's why 'Ye has regressed while getting more and more popular. He reached that level where it's not about music at all. He's reached to alllll kinds of fan bases. Kendrick is starting that wave. He'll keep building different avenues and then do his label thingy.
Now, if you're talking battle rap I believe Kendrick coudl and would absolutely shred anybody. I think that's where most people are coming from with the GOAT talk because it sure as hell is not based on his discography so far...which is good, but we're talking all time greats here. You're talking about dudes who put out album after album year after year and just owned rap for extended periods of time. That's not possible to do in today's industry. Shit changes too quick. You gotta reinvent yourself. You gotta bring in new fans...
All because people like BBdk quit buying music. TS.
Who's putting him over Pac/Jay, etc? Not me.
He's just getting started; I said he's the best rapper out there right now (who's regularly rapping), which is true.
He's just getting started; I said he's the best rapper out there right now (who's regularly rapping), which is true.
Read many things in this thread alluding to Kendrick's spot among the GOATS. You even tried to tell me he was better than my own favorite rappers.
Getting started at the ripe age of 27...
Hope he is, but I don't think you've paid attention to the careers of these old rap guys. There is a pretty distinct pattern after you're done rappity-rapping, and been crowned the king, etc...You gotta do what K.dot is doing now. Expanding his horizons. Bring in new ears. Transcend the rap game. Or just do something different for yourself.
Getting started at the ripe age of 27...
Hope he is, but I don't think you've paid attention to the careers of these old rap guys. There is a pretty distinct pattern after you're done rappity-rapping, and been crowned the king, etc...You gotta do what K.dot is doing now. Expanding his horizons. Bring in new ears. Transcend the rap game. Or just do something different for yourself.
Ha, you're such a dramatic little pussy.
Pretty sure he's in a good spot, and perfectly fine with the way things are going.
Nobody is ever gonna touch JayZ again in terms of career longevity, and being able to balance being a mogul & a rapper without simultaneously becoming awful. That's why he's the GOAT, imo.
Pretty sure he's in a good spot, and perfectly fine with the way things are going.
Nobody is ever gonna touch JayZ again in terms of career longevity, and being able to balance being a mogul & a rapper without simultaneously becoming awful. That's why he's the GOAT, imo.
Started listening to Kendrick a lot when my daughters went to his concert at Vandy a couple of years ago. Still don't think he's any GOAT, but his new album is excellent. Wesley's Theory, has one of the best rap intros I've ever heard, and is probably my favorite on the album, (having one of my long time favorites George Clinton doesn't hurt either.) Although, Institutionalized is growing on me. Also like how he pulled a good bit of jazz into the album, much more of a West Coast feel.
But I also like the more rap side of the second half: Alright, Hood Politics and Mortal Man in particular. Great stuff.
But I also like the more rap side of the second half: Alright, Hood Politics and Mortal Man in particular. Great stuff.
You could saved yourself some key strokes and just said "hater".
Um, Jay did not balance the mogul and rapper thing very well. He fell off hard after he "retired", but your weird ass probably liked that stuff. I guess because he was getting that gwop, dog. He's never been in a better place than now, so I guess he's at his peak. Genius reasoning, really. Never thought about it that way.
Um, Jay did not balance the mogul and rapper thing very well. He fell off hard after he "retired", but your weird ass probably liked that stuff. I guess because he was getting that gwop, dog. He's never been in a better place than now, so I guess he's at his peak. Genius reasoning, really. Never thought about it that way.
From the time Lupe dropped the Fahrenheit 1/15 mixtape upto when he dropped The Cool Lupe was without a doubt considered the best mainstream rapper.
This dude is on Kendrick lamars nads more than anyone I have ever seen.
Run the Jewels 2 murders TPAB. K
This dude is on Kendrick lamars nads more than anyone I have ever seen.
Run the Jewels 2 murders TPAB. K
New album is solid yet pales in comparison to GKMC. But what doesn't look pedestrian when compared to GKMC? It's one of the top 3 hip hop albums of the last 10-15 years.
Butterfly loses a lot of momentum in the middle of the album. It starts like a lion and ends decent but tracks 4 (Institutionalized) through 9 (Momma) are mostly flat. Institutionalized would be better without Snoop's quasi-chorus which I feel makes it cartoonish. Alright is the only highlight in that stretch.
Butterfly : GKMC :: Yeezus : Dark Twisted Fantasy
This post was edited on 3/25 1:43 PM by Mime-Is-Money
Butterfly loses a lot of momentum in the middle of the album. It starts like a lion and ends decent but tracks 4 (Institutionalized) through 9 (Momma) are mostly flat. Institutionalized would be better without Snoop's quasi-chorus which I feel makes it cartoonish. Alright is the only highlight in that stretch.
Butterfly : GKMC :: Yeezus : Dark Twisted Fantasy
This post was edited on 3/25 1:43 PM by Mime-Is-Money
Meh. Jay's worst (all his recent stuff) is better than any album you've pimped in the last 5 years: Gibbs, Bronson, etc, etc.Originally posted by Mashburned:
You could saved yourself some key strokes and just said "hater".
Um, Jay did not balance the mogul and rapper thing very well. He fell off hard after he "retired", but your weird ass probably liked that stuff. I guess because he was getting that gwop, dog. He's never been in a better place than now, so I guess he's at his peak. Genius reasoning, really. Never thought about it that way.
Not really close, either.
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