Just wondering How a Recruit

[etowncatfan]

Can go to ALL of our home football games.
Weekend after Weekend have his picture taken with our committed recruits.
Always shaking our coaches hand smiling and mugging for photo ops with our fans every week.
Has a mother who wants him to play close to home so she can attend who also loves the staff.

How can a recruit pick any other school after you have been doing this for so long?

I could understand it if it was one weekend on a recruiting visit.

But all the other times he attended on his own.

If
he picks another school....it will be like you led on a girl that you
would take her to the prom then at the end you asked someone else.
Were you just leading her on??

 

[jayrizzo89]

Because he loves his home state and state school. So he enjoys it as much as he can, and helps impress other recruits before he makes what he believes is the best business decision.

 

[CHAMPCAT11]

Originally posted by etowncatfan:


Can go to ALL of our home football games.
Weekend after Weekend have his picture taken with our committed recruits.
Always shaking our coaches hand smiling and mugging for photo ops with our fans every week.
Has a mother who wants him to play close to home so she can attend who also loves the staff.

How can a recruit pick any other school after you have been doing this for so long?

I could understand it if it was one weekend on a recruiting visit.

But all the other times he attended on his own.

If
he picks another school....it will be like you led on a girl that you
would take her to the prom then at the end you asked someone else.
Were you just leading her on??

I wouldn't have worded it exactly like this but I agree 100% with the point you're trying to make. He's been hanging with all kinds of UK athletes, goes to all the games, tweets and retweets pro UK comments, has great rapport with the UK players and staff, and the list goes on and on. Now people say he's going to stand up in front of a packed house of UK fans and grab the Alabama hat ?? I don't see it that way. He could have easily went to Alabama and had the support of the BBN because he's the real deal and Alabama's the real deal. All he had to do was commit in a different environment. But if he stands up after all of this and commits to Alabama I think it's a sh*tty move on his part. I don't want to bash the young man but that's just the way I see it. He's been pure class his entire life so do you think he'd do it this way ?

 

[gossie21]

He could be looking at it like it's a business decision. Maybe he thinks the odds of making the NFL are better at Alabama (I disagree). That's the only justification I can come up with. But I certainly would not consider this leading UK on. If he chooses Alabama it was likely a decision he made very late in the process. If he was planning on going there all along I doubt he would have come to so many games.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Because he's a teenager where they base a lot of decisions on the emotion they're feeling that minute. They change on a whim.

 

[richardabney]

Originally posted by HeismanCatNole85:
Because he's a teenager where they base a lot of decisions on the emotion they're feeling that minute. They change on a whim.

 

[why_not_kentucky]

COLD BLOODED

 

[BlueTick2]

Originally posted by CHAMPCAT11:

Originally posted by etowncatfan:



Can go to ALL of our home football games.
Weekend after Weekend have his picture taken with our committed recruits.
Always shaking our coaches hand smiling and mugging for photo ops with our fans every week.
Has a mother who wants him to play close to home so she can attend who also loves the staff.

How can a recruit pick any other school after you have been doing this for so long?

I could understand it if it was one weekend on a recruiting visit.

But all the other times he attended on his own.

If
he picks another school....it will be like you led on a girl that you
would take her to the prom then at the end you asked someone else.
Were you just leading her on??

I wouldn't have worded it exactly like this but I agree 100% with the point you're trying to make. He's been hanging with all kinds of UK athletes, goes to all the games, tweets and retweets pro UK comments, has great rapport with the UK players and staff, and the list goes on and on. Now people say he's going to stand up in front of a packed house of UK fans and grab the Alabama hat ?? I don't see it that way. He could have easily went to Alabama and had the support of the BBN because he's the real deal and Alabama's the real deal. All he had to do was commit in a different environment. But if he stands up after all of this and commits to Alabama I think it's a sh*tty move on his part. I don't want to bash the young man but that's just the way I see it. He's been pure class his entire life so do you think he'd do it this way ?

Great Post Champcat!
Said it all.

 

[TBCat]

There won't be anything wrong if he picks Bama. What would you rather him not come to our games if there is even a chance that he might go else where? It was good for UK for him to be seen here. Besides most indications were that he was heavy for UK a month ago and that Bama got back in during the UA game. I'm not sure I believe those rumors any more than I believe the ones from today but if you do then you should see it had nothing to do with leading anyone on. He's just in the process of deciding. Besides it's not like UK wasn't inviting him here.

 

[CoachR35]

Originally posted by BlueTick2:

Originally posted by CHAMPCAT11:

Originally posted by etowncatfan:




Can go to ALL of our home football games.
Weekend after Weekend have his picture taken with our committed recruits.
Always shaking our coaches hand smiling and mugging for photo ops with our fans every week.
Has a mother who wants him to play close to home so she can attend who also loves the staff.

How can a recruit pick any other school after you have been doing this for so long?

I could understand it if it was one weekend on a recruiting visit.

But all the other times he attended on his own.

If
he picks another school....it will be like you led on a girl that you
would take her to the prom then at the end you asked someone else.
Were you just leading her on??

I wouldn't have worded it exactly like this but I agree 100% with the point you're trying to make. He's been hanging with all kinds of UK athletes, goes to all the games, tweets and retweets pro UK comments, has great rapport with the UK players and staff, and the list goes on and on. Now people say he's going to stand up in front of a packed house of UK fans and grab the Alabama hat ?? I don't see it that way. He could have easily went to Alabama and had the support of the BBN because he's the real deal and Alabama's the real deal. All he had to do was commit in a different environment. But if he stands up after all of this and commits to Alabama I think it's a sh*tty move on his part. I don't want to bash the young man but that's just the way I see it. He's been pure class his entire life so do you think he'd do it this way ?

Great Post Champcat!
Said it all.

I'm of the opinion that if he were committing to Bama he would've done it at the Under Armor game with all the other Tide commits. I took it as a positive sign for UK that he was announcing at a later date.

 

[Brock28]

Cat!

 

[SaguaroCat]

Originally posted by CHAMPCAT11:

Now people say he's going to stand up in front of a packed house of UK fans...

But if he stands up after all of this and commits to Alabama I think it's a sh*tty move on his part. I don't want to bash the young man but that's just the way I see it. He's been pure class his entire life so do you think he'd do it this way ?

1) he's standing in front of teachers, friends, and family at his school . Got nothing to do Kentucky fans.

2) you are a colossal moron.

 

[1977 Cat]

Your entitled to your opinion. Hard for me to understand this also...and I usually agree with you Saguaro.
This post was edited on 1/8 8:26 PM by 1977 Cat

 

[LouievileKat]

He can be a fan of Kentucky and still go to another school if he thinks thats the best business decision for him long term. I'm not saying he does and I have no clue what school he will pick tomorrow but theres more to a decision that friendships and fandom.

 

[bigbluefattycat]

If he picks Bama or Ohio State it won't be because of the NFL. He can do that here. If he picks Bama or Ohio State his chances of playing in the playoffs and competing for National Championships will be significantly better.

I wouldn't blame him one bit for chasing a championship. However he can go down a UK legend like Tim Couch if he stays home and never worry about employment in this state again if he stays out of trouble.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

Originally posted by bigbluefattycat:
If he picks Bama or Ohio State it won't be because of the NFL. He can do that here. If he picks Bama or Ohio State his chances of playing in the playoffs and competing for National Championships will be significantly better.

I wouldn't blame him one bit for chasing a championship. However he can go down a UK legend like Tim Couch if he stays home and never worry about employment in this state again if he stays out of trouble.

Again...Another UK fan assuming that UK cannot compete for championships like those other schools....This is the loser mentality within the UK fanbase that I'm talking about....Pathetic.

 

[gobigblue812]

I hope and think he will go to UK. However, I don't blame him if he goes to Bama. The stadium and fan base are bigger and crazier than UK's. They have a HOF coach, a chance every year to play in the SEC championship game and a BCS/Playoff game. UK realistically does not. To use a BB analogy: If a 5* BB player in the state of Alabama lived close to Bama's campus and he went to several games and then decided to go to UK and play for Cal, do you think that would sound crazy? No it wouldn't.



Good luck to you Damien, with or without UK.


P.S.

Please come to UK...

 

[CHAMPCAT11]

Originally posted by SaguaroCat:

Originally posted by CHAMPCAT11:

Now people say he's going to stand up in front of a packed house of UK fans...

But if he stands up after all of this and commits to Alabama I think it's a sh*tty move on his part. I don't want to bash the young man but that's just the way I see it. He's been pure class his entire life so do you think he'd do it this way ?

1) he's standing in front of teachers, friends, and family at his school . Got nothing to do Kentucky fans.

2) you are a colossal moron.

Calling me a moron is classless and childish but I've read a lot of your post and I'd expect nothing less from you because you don't know how to read or comprehend sentences. I'll re-state it in kindergarten terms you may or may not be able to understand. My guess is you won't understand. He has every right to go to Alabama and I wish him the best. I've always been told he's a classy kid from a classy family. You DON'T stand up in a pro UK environment and break the news that you're going elsewhere after having plenty of time to break the news using a different method. There were a number of other ways he could have done this (and I still think he chooses UK) and BBN would understand. That's the way it is and there's nothing moronic about what I said. Have someone with a brain explain this to you and maybe you'll get it.

 

[THE_OAK]

Originally posted by UKWinsAgainYep:

Originally posted by bigbluefattycat:
If he picks Bama or Ohio State it won't be because of the NFL. He can do that here. If he picks Bama or Ohio State his chances of playing in the playoffs and competing for National Championships will be significantly better.

I wouldn't blame him one bit for chasing a championship. However he can go down a UK legend like Tim Couch if he stays home and never worry about employment in this state again if he stays out of trouble.

Again...Another UK fan assuming that UK cannot compete for championships like those other schools....This is the loser mentality within the UK fanbase that I'm talking about....Pathetic.

You need a new line, you sound like a broken record.

 

[How Blue Can You Get?]

Well, I'm not saying it's morally right, but I could forsee an 18 year old kid genuinely wanting to take a pretty girl to the prom, but then at t he last minute, thesuper ultra hottest girl in the school turns up the heat and talks him into taking her instead...therefore, I could def see an 18 year old kid making a similar decision in regards to which school he chooses...especially when it concerns his career and the rest of his life.

 

[jauk11]

Originally posted by SaguaroCat:

Originally posted by CHAMPCAT11:

Now people say he's going to stand up in front of a packed house of UK fans...

But if he stands up after all of this and commits to Alabama I think it's a sh*tty move on his part. I don't want to bash the young man but that's just the way I see it. He's been pure class his entire life so do you think he'd do it this way ?

1) he's standing in front of teachers, friends, and family at his school . Got nothing to do Kentucky fans.

2) you are a colossal moron.

LOL

If he is standing in front of teachers, friends, and family at his school, what makes you think he isn't standing in front of Kentucky fans?

Sorry, but I can see CHAMPCAT11's point of view quite easily, it would be hard for me to disappoint all those people close to me that are able to attend (probably 90% anyway) when it could be easily argued that UK is his BEST business decision for football AND his best post football decision. He is going to have a ton of money if he is as good as advertised and something drastic doesn't happen no matter where he goes, and if something sidelines him Kentucky is easily his best decision.

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

Originally posted by CHAMPCAT11:

Originally posted by SaguaroCat:

Originally posted by CHAMPCAT11:

Now people say he's going to stand up in front of a packed house of UK fans...

But if he stands up after all of this and commits to Alabama I think it's a sh*tty move on his part. I don't want to bash the young man but that's just the way I see it. He's been pure class his entire life so do you think he'd do it this way ?

1) he's standing in front of teachers, friends, and family at his school . Got nothing to do Kentucky fans.

2) you are a colossal moron.

Calling me a moron is classless and childish but I've read a lot of your post and I'd expect nothing less from you because you don't know how to read or comprehend sentences. I'll re-state it in kindergarten terms you may or may not be able to understand. My guess is you won't understand. He has every right to go to Alabama and I wish him the best. I've always been told he's a classy kid from a classy family. You DON'T stand up in a pro UK environment and break the news that you're going elsewhere after having plenty of time to break the news using a different method. There were a number of other ways he could have done this (and I still think he chooses UK) and BBN would understand. That's the way it is and there's nothing moronic about what I said. Have someone with a brain explain this to you and maybe you'll get it.

It's his life, his decision, and it's recruiting, he can announce anyway he wants. If you can't handle that or question his character because if how he announces, you shouldn't be following recruiting.

 

[etowncatfan]

Originally posted by How Blue Can You Get?:
Well, I'm not saying it's morally right, but I could forsee an 18 year old kid genuinely wanting to take a pretty girl to the prom, but then at t he last minute, thesuper ultra hottest girl in the school turns up the heat and talks him into taking her instead...therefore, I could def see an 18 year old kid making a similar decision in regards to which school he chooses...especially when it concerns his career and the rest of his life.

I would agree with your point if Alabama had been a late comer in his recruitment and just swept in here at the last moment. But that hasn't been the case. They were there from day one. The Pretty girl and her family will be very upset IMO!!

 

[ram1955]

How can a kid grow up being a UK sports fan, yet choose to pursue an education at another university? Simple: a person's educational/career decisions are infinitely more important than being a fan. If he believes one school will better afford him the opportunity to be successful in the profession he's chosen to pursue, he should go to that school. Has nothing to do with being a fan. As for how the BBN responds, why should he allow that to enter his decision? Chances are no fan is going to have any impact on his future success.

As for making his announcement in the presence of fellow students (who likely are Ky fans)...As a teenager, his peers are some of the most important people in his world. Why wouldn't he want to have them present regardless of the school he chooses? What if it was a kid from Louisville, say Trinity, a traditional stomping ground for ul recruiters? We'd be giddy if we thought he'd announce his decision to go to Ky in the midst of a ton of ul fans.

He's a kid making a personal decision... It has nothing to do with Ky fans. If he chooses another school BBN fans have a right to be disappointed, but NO right to be critical of him or cast dispersions on him.

 

[BlueRaider22]

OP,

He'd probably would've done the same treatment to Bama, but isn't 30-40' down the road. The average 18 yr old would eat up attention and opportunity like this whenever possible.

 

[JHB4UK]

Originally posted by etowncatfan:

Originally posted by How Blue Can You Get?:
Well, I'm not saying it's morally right, but I could forsee an 18 year old kid genuinely wanting to take a pretty girl to the prom, but then at t he last minute, thesuper ultra hottest girl in the school turns up the heat and talks him into taking her instead...therefore, I could def see an 18 year old kid making a similar decision in regards to which school he chooses...especially when it concerns his career and the rest of his life.

I would agree with your point if Alabama had been a late comer in his recruitment and just swept in here at the last moment. But that hasn't been the case. They were there from day one. The Pretty girl and her family will be very upset IMO!!

if he picks Bama, I'll put the primary reason on our change of OC. Might have been too concerning for Harris to go all in on someone who he has not built a relationship with or aware of his playcalling. So that would answer your original question IMO.

Still think he picks UK.

 

[dvillecatfan]

recruiting is a game..win some, lose some. there will be more games to be played. some act as if a kid shouldnt have a big announcement unless they are going to state u....if going outta state, why have an announcement in front of state u fans. really?

 

[AVCat]

Originally posted by etowncatfan:

Can go to ALL of our home football games.
Weekend after Weekend have his picture taken with our committed recruits.
Always shaking our coaches hand smiling and mugging for photo ops with our fans every week.
Has a mother who wants him to play close to home so she can attend who also loves the staff.

How can a recruit pick any other school after you have been doing this for so long?

I could understand it if it was one weekend on a recruiting visit.

But all the other times he attended on his own.

If
he picks another school....it will be like you led on a girl that you
would take her to the prom then at the end you asked someone else.
Were you just leading her on??

We all need to chill. He is a teenager that has handled the whole recruiting scene with total class. He has been to our games and supported our program. Him coming to all of our games gave our program a positive vibe to the other recruits that were visiting each week. For this we already owe him a big thanks. Our program is on the rise but who can blame him for looking at Alabama and Ohio St.? He is one of the best backs in America and he should recruited by the best. Of course, we all want him to pick UK but if he doesn't we need to wish him the best and move on. I don't understand your comparison to a prom date. He has been VERY supportive of our program. He should look at all the schools he is interested in then make his decision. Both of the other programs he is looking at won conference titles and played in the playoffs for the national championship. I don't blame him at all for that. I hope he picks UK and I think he will. It's great having elite talent in our own state. It's even better that they are now considering UK instead of automatically going elsewhere. Thank you Mr. Harris for helping in our recruiting efforts and we can't wait to see you in KENTUCKY BLUE!!! Go CATS!!!! #WhynotUK..

 

[mrschwump]

^JHB, you're right. I've said all along that a huge factor in his decision would be that the guy who was UK's lead recruiter for Harris for at least a year is no longer at UK. I've also asked the question numerous times, w/o it being answered BTW, has he talked in any way with Shannon Dawson? Sure as hell hope so. Hope I'm wrong but I say Bama.

 

[CATS1945]

I thought I read where the lead recruiter was Coach Stoops?

 

[mrschwump]

^HCs have restrictions placed on them that limit contacts to just a handful of visits. Recruiting is done by assts then the HC seals the deal. Harris's lead recruiter for over a year was Neal Brown.

 

[balanced&blue]

Many of the same people who would bash him for going to Bama are the same ones that can't see why a b ball recruit would turn down UK for their home state school... It's UK! Thus, I'll hate it, but I would not hold it against him.

I hope he comes here. I think he does. Personally, if I were a UK fan I would automatically cross off all SEC schools. I could say no to UK but there is no way I could play against them. UK has meant to much to me and simply could not play against them. I think its one reason you see these UK football guys leave for USC, Illinois, etc and not SEC. Real, true blue, UK fans can't do it.

 

[Bank Cat]

Originally posted by etowncatfan:

Can go to ALL of our home football games.
Weekend after Weekend have his picture taken with our committed recruits.
Always shaking our coaches hand smiling and mugging for photo ops with our fans every week.
Has a mother who wants him to play close to home so she can attend who also loves the staff.

How can a recruit pick any other school after you have been doing this for so long?

I could understand it if it was one weekend on a recruiting visit.

But all the other times he attended on his own.

If
he picks another school....it will be like you led on a girl that you
would take her to the prom then at the end you asked someone else.
Were you just leading her on??

Fans may get the impression that he was leading them on, but my assumption is that he has been honest enough to tell them that he was/is undecided. More than the 'leading the girl on' angle, I'd say it's more like he is deciding who he wants to be in a relationship with and can't make a decision in good conscience without getting to know as much about them as possible.

If he chooses 'Bama, I'll be bummed to the nth degree but not pissed.

 

[fuzz77]

Originally posted by CHAMPCAT11:

I wouldn't have worded it exactly like this but I agree 100% with the point you're trying to make. He's been hanging with all kinds of UK athletes, goes to all the games, tweets and retweets pro UK comments, has great rapport with the UK players and staff, and the list goes on and on. Now people say he's going to stand up in front of a packed house of UK fans and grab the Alabama hat ?? I don't see it that way. He could have easily went to Alabama and had the support of the BBN because he's the real deal and Alabama's the real deal. All he had to do was commit in a different environment. But if he stands up after all of this and commits to Alabama I think it's a sh*tty move on his part. I don't want to bash the young man but that's just the way I see it. He's been pure class his entire life so do you think he'd do it this way ?

Let's be honest here... he tweets and retweets pro UK and pro Bama...and I think I've even seen some pro Ohio St tweets as well. With the exception of attending all the games everything you have said could apply to Bama. You see all of the UK related things but if you look at his twitter timeline he does pretty much the same thing with Bama related tweets. He pretty much re-tweets anything that is tweeted to him regardless of from where it came.

He's also not going to stand up in a "packed house of UK fans"...he's doing it as his high school in front of his fellow students and some media. The school is not open to the public.

The truth is the guy could be really torn with his decision. He said just the other day that no decision had been made. Drew Barker said he didn't make his final decision until the night before his announcement.

I'm afraid what I see from a lot of people is like the guy who likes the girl but if the girl won't date him then she's a total bitch, whore...doesn't know why anyone would want her...but he'd cut off his right arm if she would date him. If she choose him then she's an angle...if she chooses someone else then she's a manipulative bitch.

Regardless of what he decides today he has given UK every opportunity to win him over. I think that's all you can ask someone to do. If you think he's been "pure class his entire life" then this decision shouldn't change that thinking. He has displayed total class throughout the entire process but in the end he has to make the best decision for him.

 

[JasonS.]

Originally posted by why_not_kentucky:
COLD BLOODED

 

[wildcat1973]

Can't believe John Wall turned down Duke to come to Kentucky. Ridiculous.

 

[Houstonwildcat]

I thought his lead recruiter was Cad Scott...

 

[mrschwump]

Hope we find out what happened Wed that caused the "experts" to change their votes on Harris's destination.

 

[JBHolmesfan]

Perhaps he came to all of those games because at the time he was truly interested in UK but wasn't totally sure yet? UK hasn't had a home game in 2 months. A lot can change in that time. To suggest he should come to UK because he came to all of our home games and seemingly enjoyed his time is misguided IMO. Maybe he came to all of the games and then decided UK just isn't the best place for him. Maybe he came to all of the games because he loves college football and UK is the closest place. There's plenty of reasons why he would go to our games and not choose to come to UK. Doesn't mean he's classless or was leading us on. In my opinion, he was still trying to make up his mind when he was going to all of those games.

 

[STEVE!]

Demarcus Cousins and Eric Bledsoe were the two best players in Alabama, with Demarcus being the top-rated big guy in the country, and Bledsoe being among the top 3 point guards. Did anyone think it was crazy they would pick UK over Alabama schools? Demarcus wouldn't have been 1st Team All-America and have a chance to play for championships in Alabama. Having said that, I still hope Harris chooses UK.