Just watched a great program on ESPNU----Unguarded, the story of Chris

[jauk11]

Herron's battle with drugs. Luckiest man alive to have the gifts he had, dumbest to throw a fresh start away numerous times, luckiest to have a wife that stood by him for years, and especially luckiest because he should have been dead numerous times or at the least locked up for life. He lost everything, but he ends up---------find a repeat and find out, very gripping story. It is also available on Amazon or Itunes and if you have a young person that might be tempted to try ANY of the stuff that is everywhere out there tie them up and make them watch the whole thing.
This post was edited on 2/25 4:41 PM by jauk11

 

[3632]

I have seen it. It is good. Heard him on ESPN radio the day Tark passed and it was really good because you could tell how sincere it was....he got choked up a time or two, but he talked about how he had given people reasons to bail on him and they did. But he told that Tark was about the only person outside of his immediate family that never bailed on him through all the stuff he did over the years. It wasn't a very long segment but it was pretty touching.

 

[Brock28]

I've watched it numerous times. It's my favorite 30 for 30.

 

[bnewt]

very good story
remember hoping Pitino would sign him

 

[jauk11]

If anyone is interested in recording it the Direct schedule shows it on ESPN2 at 2:30 AM EST tonight. Worth the effort IMO.

 

[jauk11]

Sorry, my computer acting up, showed it not posting so I kept trying.
This post was edited on 2/28 12:50 PM by jauk11

 

[sluggercatfan]

Originally posted by jauk11:
The Direct schedule shows it being on at 2:30 AM EST tonight if anyone is interested in recording it. Worth the effort IMO, I will set my recorder, wouldn't mind watching it again, besides, no commercials..

Any replays on TWC...Thanks...have someone I would like to watch it with me...

 

[jauk11]

As I said, I think this would be a great program to show young people that are undoubtedly exposed to drugs often in today's world, most of them while still searching for their identity. I was never exposed to those things growing up in SE Kentucky, but then I was exposed to cigarettes (and bootleg alcohol) and never smoked one in my life, took my first drink after the army and graduating from UK and then not until I was 27. I tried to make up for lost time for several years though, LOL, a wonder I survived and never hurt anyone else.

My theory is that some people can be exposed to some drugs and not get hooked but others can get hooked very easily, and with some of the new stuff it is supposed to only take one time. That first time can be all you need to throw your life away. Which is exactly what the #1 basketball pick from Maryland that had a multimillion dollar contract did when he tried drugs for the very first time and overdosed decades ago, I don't remember his name (similar to the RB) because instead of being a millionair idol he was dead. Similar to some people smoking until they are in their eighties (what they don't realize is that they will feel like they are 80 twenty years earlier) without getting lung cancer. My second wife got hooked on it when it was fashionable when she was 14, never could shake the habit although she tried numerous times, died from lung cancer at 62. NOT a pretty way to go, and certainly bad (and expensive) for your overall health regardless

But I know, I know, it won't happen to me..
This post was edited on 2/28 1:16 PM by jauk11

 

[DaBossIsBack]

I grew up in SE Ky and I don't know how you weren't exposed to it. Drugs were every where I turned. Drugs ruin lives but it's their life to ruin. Not mine and not yours. Is it sad? It can be. Am I going to tell someone to not use drugs? No. Just like I'm not going to tell them to go to church or vote for this person or that person. Let people make their own choices and stop worrying and impeding on people's lives; good or bad.

 

[jauk11]

Originally posted by DaBossIsBack:
I grew up in SE Ky and I don't know how you weren't exposed to it. Drugs were every where I turned. Drugs ruin lives but it's their life to ruin. Not mine and not yours. Is it sad? It can be. Am I going to tell someone to not use drugs? No. Just like I'm not going to tell them to go to church or vote for this person or that person. Let people make their own choices and stop worrying and impeding on people's lives; good or bad.

Wow, I don't know how you ever got promoted to "DaBoss", seems like another tragedy to me. It sure should be EVERYONE's concern to stop drug abuse, they don't just ruin their own lives, they ruin a lot of other people's lives also, and you spend your life and a lot of income worrying about them robbing you, with fatal results at times, or stealing you blind. Maybe you should spend your time trying to get Willie Williams out of his lifetime sentence, another loser that had the world by the tail that is costing a million to feed and house, thanks jurich.

I grew up (well, I was supposed to) and went to a small high school, ran around with a bunch of kids that bought beer at "Buggytops" at sixteen and seventeen because it was illegal no matter how young you were, and drove around in their cars drinking because there was no where to go to drink (or dance, really). Sorry, I know how things have changed, but I never ever even had a second hand sniff of mj, let alone anything worse in my 12 years at the same school or a few years around there after that. Just not a part of the culture at that time. I do remember reading about a great high school prospect from my area that was the outstanding player in Kentucky that was going to play at UK that ruined his life with some kind of drug. Very close to his mother, that raised him, and didn't even know that he had murdered her and cut up her body until after the fact. Right, no harm done. I wasn't around there at the time, but I think his name was Rader.

Speaking of impeding on other peoples lives, maybe you should talk to some of the druggies about that.

"Is it sad? It can be", what bullshit, it usually is, if not for them then for those around them.

Sounds like you might have been exposed to too many drugs growing up, I'm sorry about that, but no reason to wish it on other young people.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Originally posted by DaBossIsBack:
I grew up in SE Ky and I don't know how you weren't exposed to it. Drugs were every where I turned. Drugs ruin lives but it's their life to ruin. Not mine and not yours. Is it sad? It can be. Am I going to tell someone to not use drugs? No. Just like I'm not going to tell them to go to church or vote for this person or that person. Let people make their own choices and stop worrying and impeding on people's lives; good or bad.

You are an idiot...Just hope you never have to deal with it first hand like some of us have

 

[DaBossIsBack]

Meh. You wasted a lot of energy there. Small town mentality. "Did you hear so and so is on drugs?" Love it.

This post was edited on 2/28 3:28 PM by DaBossIsBack

 

[DaBossIsBack]

Originally posted by sluggercatfan:

Originally posted by DaBossIsBack:
I grew up in SE Ky and I don't know how you weren't exposed to it. Drugs were every where I turned. Drugs ruin lives but it's their life to ruin. Not mine and not yours. Is it sad? It can be. Am I going to tell someone to not use drugs? No. Just like I'm not going to tell them to go to church or vote for this person or that person. Let people make their own choices and stop worrying and impeding on people's lives; good or bad.

You are an idiot...Just hope you never have to deal with it first hand like some of us have

The name calling necessary? I delt with it. I grew up in the prescription pill capital of the world. Everyone was on drugs and still are. I graduated college, moved to a city of 2 million people and now I study Meisnser under one the most renowned teachers in my state. I don't care who is on drugs and who isn't. It's not my life and I don't live my life through the fortunes or misfortunes of others.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Originally posted by DaBossIsBack:

Originally posted by sluggercatfan:

Originally posted by DaBossIsBack:
I grew up in SE Ky and I don't know how you weren't exposed to it. Drugs were every where I turned. Drugs ruin lives but it's their life to ruin. Not mine and not yours. Is it sad? It can be. Am I going to tell someone to not use drugs? No. Just like I'm not going to tell them to go to church or vote for this person or that person. Let people make their own choices and stop worrying and impeding on people's lives; good or bad.

You are an idiot...Just hope you never have to deal with it first hand like some of us have

The name calling necessary? I delt with it. I grew up in the prescription pill capital of the world. Everyone was on drugs and still are. I graduated college, moved to a city of 2 million people and now I study Meisnser under one the most renowned teachers in my state. I don't care who is on drugs and who isn't. It's not my life and I don't live my life through the fortunes or misfortunes of others.

Maybe it was unnecessary , but until you have someone you love dearly dealing with it I guess you will never understand...Right now he is 7 months clean and just needs to try to get his act together so he can deal with it...

 

[UKFBALLER]

Originally posted by DaBossIsBack:
I grew up in SE Ky and I don't know how you weren't exposed to it. Drugs were every where I turned. Drugs ruin lives but it's their life to ruin. Not mine and not yours. Is it sad? It can be. Am I going to tell someone to not use drugs? No. Just like I'm not going to tell them to go to church or vote for this person or that person. Let people make their own choices and stop worrying and impeding on people's lives; good or bad.

Very uneducated Post. I am from SE ky as well so please don't come on here saying this crap making the rest of us look bad. Drugs are very bad. People that use they do very bad things. You are not going to tell someone not to use drugs? What are you going to do when that same person is on drugs then robs your house? Or needs money for more drugs so they attack someone? Stupid post.

 

[DaBossIsBack]

Originally posted by UKFBALLER:

Originally posted by DaBossIsBack:
I grew up in SE Ky and I don't know how you weren't exposed to it. Drugs were every where I turned. Drugs ruin lives but it's their life to ruin. Not mine and not yours. Is it sad? It can be. Am I going to tell someone to not use drugs? No. Just like I'm not going to tell them to go to church or vote for this person or that person. Let people make their own choices and stop worrying and impeding on people's lives; good or bad.

Very uneducated Post. I am from SE ky as well so please don't come on here saying this crap making the rest of us look bad. Drugs are very bad. People that use they do very bad things. You are not going to tell someone not to use drugs? What are you going to do when that same person is on drugs then robs your house? Or needs money for more drugs so they attack someone? Stupid post.

I guess deal with it like I would if anyone one robbed me? People do bad things; not just drug addicts. Uneducated?

 

[jauk11]

It probably wouldn't even bother you if you got killed either, right?

Well, at least we probably wouldn't hear you complain about it.

 

[DaBossIsBack]

Originally posted by jauk11:

It probably wouldn't even bother you if you got killed either, right?

Well, at least we probably wouldn't hear you complain about it.

Well I would be dead, so I guess it wouldn't bother me too much.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

DaBoss is a clown...

I think drugs are stupid, awful whatever you want to say...I think the person using is incredibly stupid for initially deciding to do so...but after that, when they get hooked they need all the support they can get.

When you see a friend turn into a zombie, catch them in the act, see them ruining their life - you will want to help. (All you can do is try though)

When you find out they died due to an OD at 23 yo, you will wonder if you could've done more...what could I have done - what if I sent a few more messages of encouragement - what if I used a little force - what if I alert higher authority or family...

Even though DaBoss is a tough guy, hope he never truly encounters this problem. (Obviously he hasn't)

 

[DaBossIsBack]

Originally posted by CatsFanGG24:

DaBoss is a clown...

I think drugs are stupid, awful whatever you want to say...I think the person using is incredibly stupid for initially deciding to do so...but after that, when they get hooked they need all the support they can get.

When you see a friend turn into a zombie, catch them in the act, see them ruining their life - you will want to help. (All you can do is try though)

When you find out they died due to an OD at 23 yo, you will wonder if you could've done more...what could I have done - what if I sent a few more messages of encouragement - what if I used a little force - what if I alert higher authority or family...

Even though DaBoss is a tough guy, hope he never truly encounters this problem. (Obviously he hasn't)

Obviously you know nothing about me. Which is ok with me. However, I will say this, I've experienced enough tragedy in my 30 years to last me 2 lifetimes. The name calling is great though. Keep it up. If someone has a different view of life, just call them a name. We are not all altruists. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit in your narrow scope of the world.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

Hurts your feelings to be called clown?

Clown is acceptable on these forums...

Like I said - hope it never hits you too close...I had close to the same viewpoint you did, until someone I knew (college teammate - not necessarily a best friend or anything either) chose to use and fell into addiction and died.

Terribly stupid and ignorant to make that first choice to use - very sad to see it take over your life.

 

[DaBossIsBack]

Originally posted by CatsFanGG24:

Hurts your feelings to be called clown?

Clown is acceptable on these forums...

Like I said - hope it never hits you too close...I had close to the same viewpoint you did, until someone I knew (college teammate - not necessarily a best friend or anything either) chose to use and fell into addiction and died.

Terribly stupid and ignorant to make that first choice to use - very sad to see it take over your life.

And how is it that you know it hasn't hit me too close? See above. Anyway, It doesn't hurt my feelings at all. When you debate topics though, it severely weakens your point/argument when you resort to name calling. Clown may be acceptable on this board but is that really how you would discuss this with me in person? If so I would politely nod and walk away. And with that said, I am out. Have a nice afternoon.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

Originally posted by DaBossIsBack:

Originally posted by CatsFanGG24:

Hurts your feelings to be called clown?

Clown is acceptable on these forums...

Like I said - hope it never hits you too close...I had close to the same viewpoint you did, until someone I knew (college teammate - not necessarily a best friend or anything either) chose to use and fell into addiction and died.

Terribly stupid and ignorant to make that first choice to use - very sad to see it take over your life.

And how is it that you know it hasn't hit me too close? See above. Anyway, It doesn't hurt my feelings at all. When you debate topics though, it severely weakens your point/argument when you resort to name calling. Clown may be acceptable on this board but is that really how you would discuss this with me in person? If so I would politely nod and walk away. And with that said, I am out. Have a nice afternoon.

Yes, if you told me you didn't care that you had a (brother, sister, son, daughter, cousin, friend, coworker etc) who was hooked on drugs - their problem etc, I'd call you a clown in person...no question about it and no problem doing so. You're above the name calling fray, but I'm narrow minded

This post was edited on 3/2 3:44 PM by CatsFanGG24

 

[DaBossIsBack]

I stated my opinion and then 3 of you took it personal and went on the attack. You called me a clown and I called your opinion that I am a clown, because I have a different opinion than yours, narrow.

 

[kyhusker2]

Herron was in Lexington a couple years ago to speak at a benefit for the Hope Center. Very good speech.

 

[jauk11]

He also spoke at Tarkanian's memorial at UNLV yesterday, it was on ESPN also. Very good and emotional speaker.

I had a very good friend that I lost several decades ago also, did a lot of things together, played Company and City league softball and flag football together, great athlete. Also had a great family, good job as a supervisor where I was an Engineer, very popular, the whole ball of wax. His problem was alcohol, and the company liked him so much they sent him to thirty day "drying out" retreats three times, and when he missed two days work a couple of weeks after the last one when they told him they couldn't do any more he said, "I guess it's just in my genes". That night he shot himself in the head, and he was a good shot also.

I have read that that is the last step in true alcoholism, you lose your family, he did, you lose your job, he did, you lose your self respect, he probably did, and suicide is the final outcome. Not sure, never tried it, but I would think a lot of drugs are a lot worse, and just the fact that they are illegal and more expensive alone makes them a lot worse.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Read his book Basketball Junkie. He tells of a hilarious recruiting visit when Calipari came to his house to recruit him to UMass when Herron was acting a fool.