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Where the BBN doctors at?!
Apparently it was a partial tear, and when he got injured (Feb 23 v Kansas St, about 5 mins left in the 2nd half if anyone wants to see it) he was definitely not in the same kind of pain you sometimes see athletes in after an ACL tear. I'm certainly not a doctor but I would assume repairing a partial tear is easier than a full one, and a quicker recovery.
 
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I have forgotten what the story was. Why did he not follow to Fayetteville?
His Dad was rubbed the wrong way by Cal slithering out in the middle of the night and not even giving his committed recruits a heads up before it broke to the national media.

It was them who broke from Cal…not the other way around. It was considered a huge miss for Cal to not be able to re-recruit him to Arkansas. A healthy JQ on the Arkansas team probably pushes them into the E8 at minimum
 
Haggarrity don't know much about him, is he a PG ?
I will say this about Haggerty, he is a true Bucket. And a poster child for why you do not pay a ton of attention to previous year stats.

Freshman year at TCU - 2.8 points per game
Sophomore year at Tulsa - 21.2 points per game 28% 3FG shooter.
Junior year at Memphis - 21.7 points per game 36% 3FG shooter.
SO. / JR. year rebounds 5.5/5.8 / assist 3.8/3.7 / steals 1.9/1.8 pretty much stayed the same. But Sophomore year to JR. year 3FG% jumped from 28% to 36%. Freshman year jump from 2.8 ppg to sophomore 21.2 is pretty amazing. But we have NO shot at him so none of this matters, LOL. I just wanted to post the increases because of the people who say this guy sucks or he is not a shooter, not a scorer etc. just by looking at stats.
 
Apparently it was a partial tear, and when he got injured (Feb 23 v Kansas St, about 5 mins left in the 2nd half if anyone wants to see it) he was definitely not in the same kind of pain you sometimes see athletes in after an ACL tear. I'm certainly not a doctor but I would assume repairing a partial tear is easier than a full one, and a quicker recovery.
My son's ACL was a complete tear and he wasn't in a great deal of pain. He actually tried to play on it later in the game but it kept giving out on him. The doctor said his nerves were severed in the tear so that explains his lack of extreme pain. A partial tear could be more painful because of the nerves still having sensation.
 
His ACL isn't what worries me. It's whether or not he is injury prone or if this one was just a bad luck thing. 🤞 Fingers crossed it's good and not bad.
 
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I agree with you and very much hope that time frame is accurate for him. But, it still seems like a very fast and overly optimistic look at such a bad injury. And, I do get what you say about his age, rehab and advancements in surgery.
Having had three knee surgeries, I think September is being quite conservative. He should be in great shape by then. Of course, that assumes all goes well but 6 months would be pushing it and 9 months is like, worst case scenario stuff, ime. He'll need a lot of time to get into game shape though and he might be factoring that into that statement. It's not like it used to be, where it was a year recovery time but the human body hasn't changed much either. In my case, the replacement acl is stronger that the original but you do lose a lot of strength pretty quickly. Therapy is key. Drs tell ya that but no matter how many times they say it, it's still understated.

But with our drs and staff, being young and in great condition when it happened, I really see zero reason for concern as long as all goes as it should go with him. Biggest thing aside from healing and good therapy, is being in game shape and the missed time getting his whole body and mind back to game ready. I do NOT think the surgery aspect of the joint should be a problem these days. It's all the other stuff that could be. I trust our staff and drs to make it a non-issue, IF his head is right.
 
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He'll likely never be the same player
Possibly. Scar tissue (which is what replaces/rejoins damaged tissue) is not the same as the tissue you were born with - not as elastic and more prone to inflammation. So, technically no one recovers 100% to pre-surgery levels. But the difference in functionality may be so small as to not be perceivable, or they can basically perform the same even with a little decreased functionality.

I’ve read that some athletic performance deficits do occur in a large percentage of patients, and eventual re-tear rates can be pretty high for athletes. But it seems Derek Anderson returned with high athleticism after his first ACL tear and again after a 2nd complete tear of the opposite knee ACL; and I don’t recall thinking Alex Poythress was noticeably different after his ACL tear.
 
Possibly. Scar tissue (which is what replaces/rejoins damaged tissue) is not the same as the tissue you were born with - not as elastic and more prone to inflammation. So, technically no one recovers 100% to pre-surgery levels. But the difference in functionality may be so small as to not be perceivable, or they can basically perform the same even with a little decreased functionality.

I’ve read that some athletic performance deficits do occur in a large percentage of patients, and eventual re-tear rates can be pretty high for athletes. But it seems Derek Anderson returned with high athleticism after his first ACL tear and again after a 2nd complete tear of the opposite knee ACL; and I don’t recall thinking Alex Poythress was noticeably different after his ACL tear.
The muscle atrophy that leads to offloading and overcompensation causes the issues on the other side of the body. The same side stuff is a complete crapshoot and likely has to do with something beyond the control of the surgeon that did the repair. Think stuff like one leg long than the other, hips not level, knock knee…man, the body is such a cool thing.
 
The muscle atrophy that leads to offloading and overcompensation causes the issues on the other side of the body. The same side stuff is a complete crapshoot and likely has to do with something beyond the control of the surgeon that did the repair. Think stuff like one leg long than the other, hips not level, knock knee…man, the body is such a cool thing.
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The muscle atrophy that leads to offloading and overcompensation causes the issues on the other side of the body. The same side stuff is a complete crapshoot and likely has to do with something beyond the control of the surgeon that did the repair. Think stuff like one leg long than the other, hips not level, knock knee…man, the body is such a cool thing.
Well, we can hope for the best and that the physical changes to that structure after surgery won’t lead to any significant deficits.
 
Well, we can hope for the best and that the physical changes to that structure after surgery won’t lead to any significant deficits.
The atrophy comes from not using the leg as a whole. The data says he will be fine, likely back to pre-injury by January or so. I think we’d all be ecstatic with that, no.
 
The atrophy comes from not using the leg as a whole. The data says he will be fine, likely back to pre-injury by January or so. I think we’d all be ecstatic with that, no.
I wasn’t referring to the temporary atrophy of the leg. But yes, I expect we’ll all be happy if there is no significant lingering effect, such as you recall better with regard to Poythress’ case.
 
Possibly. Scar tissue (which is what replaces/rejoins damaged tissue) is not the same as the tissue you were born with - not as elastic and more prone to inflammation. So, technically no one recovers 100% to pre-surgery levels. But the difference in functionality may be so small as to not be perceivable, or they can basically perform the same even with a little decreased functionality.

I’ve read that some athletic performance deficits do occur in a large percentage of patients, and eventual re-tear rates can be pretty high for athletes. But it seems Derek Anderson returned with high athleticism after his first ACL tear and again after a 2nd complete tear of the opposite knee ACL; and I don’t recall thinking Alex Poythress was noticeably different after his ACL tear.
Appreciate your detailed response.
 
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The reinjury rate is significantly reduced by 51% for each month return to sport (RTS) is delayed until 9 months postoperatively. After 9 months, no further reduction in reinjury risk is observed. Delaying RTS to at least 9 months and achieving symmetrical quadriceps strength substantially reduces the risk of reinjury.


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Postoperative ACLR rehabilitation should continue for 9 months. Minimum RTS criteria include:
  • ≥9 months post-op
  • ≥90% quadriceps strength symmetry
  • ≥90% performance on all hop tests
  • ≥90% on the KOS-ADLS
  • ≥80% on the ACL-RSI

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