Well no. It’s pay or fall behind. If you wanna talk about overpaid, we will talk about Mitch Barnhart making over a million dollars a year. He shouldn’t be making more than any player.Then he better have a Stellar year next year! WTF kind of money is being thrown at these kids is ridiculous
Everyone tampers. No rules in this era. No punishment. No enforcement. Just win baby.So UT tried poaching Dingle and Willie Rodriguez? I think I remember reading about Barion Brown saying UT players were trying to recruit him during the game and instead he talked trash to them (love that). Trash program (and yes I know everyone tampers now).
Jason Belzer runs a company that manages the collectives for 20+ universities, so he has access to actual data.I have a hard time believing he was offered something in the 350K range. If that is his value, I imagine the overall NIL value of UT is somewhere between $15 - $25 million for the upcoming year. Maybe I'm naïve (wouldn't be the first time), but I just have a hard time believing that number.
Tenn was among a few schools, about 3-4 years ago, offering HS kids here in Atlanta, 100k plus a car to sign..... Auburn and Miami were among these schools.. Just FYI.I have a hard time believing he was offered something in the 350K range. If that is his value, I imagine the overall NIL value of UT is somewhere between $15 - $25 million for the upcoming year. Maybe I'm naïve (wouldn't be the first time), but I just have a hard time believing that number.
We will never know, but 350k for an average P5 TE just seems off and as has been mentioned, all college athlete's have incentive to inflate numbers when they report what is being offered by other teams.Tenn was among a few schools, about 3-4 years ago, offering HS kids here in Atlanta, 100k plus a car to sign..... Auburn and Miami were among these schools.. Just FYI.
That’s a bad take. There 80+ players and each will be gone within 5 years. Continuity in the Athletic Dept is how you keep coaches and the various sports producing at a high clip.Well no. It’s pay or fall behind. If you wanna talk about overpaid, we will talk about Mitch Barnhart making over a million dollars a year. He shouldn’t be making more than any player.
Interestingly, it was Marrow today who said the NFL scouts interested in UK’s TEs recognize their abilities to block. Its the whole package with top TEs.Dingle caught 11 balls for 198 yards in 2023.....more productive in 2022 as he got dinged up in 2023....but if that number is somewhat true....that is a ton of money for a decent, but not great by any stretch, TE in UK's scheme.
UT gets huge props for fitting $100k into McDonald bags. Quite an accomplishment.Tenn was among a few schools, about 3-4 years ago, offering HS kids here in Atlanta, 100k plus a car to sign..... Auburn and Miami were among these schools.. Just FYI.
Ours doesn’t value football or approach it like the buisness that it is. Still waiting and hoping for NCAA to get involved. Never gonna happen.That’s a bad take. There 80+ players and each will be gone within 5 years. Continuity in the Athletic Dept is how you keep coaches and the various sports producing at a high clip.
Marrow is also pumping his TE room up. There have been 153 TE's drafted since Marrow has been at UK...none of them from UK.Interestingly, it was Marrow today who said the NFL scouts interested in UK’s TEs recognize their abilities to block. Its the whole package with top TEs.
I’m with you. I mean he’s a solid college te but come on. I’m sure some guys are pulling dough but also lots of embellishment. I know some specific people in the hs baseball community that are top ‘elite’ kids that will get drafted in the first 2-3 rounds and the numbers floated out there for their college NIL is way higher than it actually is. Example…one kid is getting 75k but the number being thrown around is like 2-250.I have a hard time believing he was offered something in the 350K range. If that is his value, I imagine the overall NIL value of UT is somewhere between $15 - $25 million for the upcoming year. Maybe I'm naïve (wouldn't be the first time), but I just have a hard time believing that number.
The appeal to go elsewhere is just to get thrown to.Marrow is also pumping his TE room up. There have been 153 TE's drafted since Marrow has been at UK...none of them from UK.
I never thought of it before like that, but ..... the subject would have an interesting discussion I am sure..If you give to the collective, how do you feel when a player makes more than you?
Do any players give to the collective? Any former players?
Yeah I don't know about all that, however this is what I was told by family members of some recruits/players.We will never know, but 350k for an average P5 TE just seems off and as has been mentioned, all college athlete's have incentive to inflate numbers when they report what is being offered by other teams.
Absolutely. I wouldn't want to play here if I was a TE. Very few touches and no history of putting guys into the league. That has got to change with our offense. Dingle has shown he can catch the ball.The appeal to go elsewhere is just to get thrown to.
They overpaid for that quarterback (7 million bucks, never took a snap) pissed off a bunch of their players so they went out on the free agent market and scored. Remember this; there is no more loyalty to a school, a coach, a state or an area. It’s strictly for the money now.Tenn was among a few schools, about 3-4 years ago, offering HS kids here in Atlanta, 100k plus a car to sign..... Auburn and Miami were among these schools.. Just FYI.
Interestingly, it was Marrow today who said the NFL scouts interested in UK’s TEs recognize their abilities to block. Its the whole package with top TEs.
I still do not believe that NIL is sustainable for more than a handful of the richest programs.Even if any NIL rates are inflated a 50% reduction across the board is still wild. That’s what I think people are missing. Quibble with million dollar QBs or $350k 20 reception TEs, but if they make half that it’s still a ton that can shift roster and recruiting/portal priorities.
Following the rules has gotta stop being a higher priority than winning games.College Sports is the Wild Wild West now! Kentucky will have to get hard core to survive it!
Exactly. I would claim incompetence if we paid 350k. Hell, lots of places that money could’ve gone to$35,000 is more appropriate for that kind of production.
It’s not. It’s going through the phases of ‘what the hell is going on’ with it. Then you after that you have the schools going ‘we need this too to keep up or to use to get ahead of those with natural recruiting advantages’ then you will eventually have people realize it matters but not to the extent the schools have sold it to fans based that they think it does. I mean all roads lead to college athletics being unionized and contracted at some point. It was going to end that way the day they made the court decision. But it’s a lot of up and down and misdirection in between. All of it could have been done reasonably if they had been proactive instead of Emmert being absent as his job and leaving it all on a court decisionI still do not believe that NIL is sustainable for more than a handful of the richest programs.
And they can't take and pay ALL the top players. Something has to give.
It is still good money for them and many of them honestly don’t support the value of the money they get. A lot of panic going on out there by staffs and schools. If it stays anywhere near the way it is they will have to move more and more to having a ‘front office’ like professionals do so they can ‘run the business end’. Which I don’t mind it will make the coaches more accountable for their actual on field performance and reduce their salaries some because others will have responsibility and accountability for the rostersEven if any NIL rates are inflated “just” 50% across the board that is still wild. That’s what I think people are missing. Quibble with million dollar QBs or $350k 20 reception TEs, but if they make half that it’s still a ton that can shift roster and recruiting/portal priorities.
Imo those weren't just some random comments. They were meant to drive home the importance of blocking to dingle who was putrid much of his time here. To his credit he did get better (it couldn't get worse) but he has a long way to go
I didn’t know Dingle returned! That’s awesome, I think he’s got major talent and can be a great TE.
If Brown ever gets better at running route and catching the majority of the balls coming his way he would be ridiculously good. The Louisville game really made up for a lot this year for him but I want to see him take the next step into becoming what his talent shows he should be.So UT tried poaching Dingle and Willie Rodriguez? I think I remember reading about Barion Brown saying UT players were trying to recruit him during the game and instead he talked trash to them (love that). Trash program (and yes I know everyone tampers now).
I’m sure they fudge their offers a ton. Why wouldn’t they, especially if someone really wants them or needs them to stay. It’s business.Jason Belzer runs a company that manages the collectives for 20+ universities, so he has access to actual data.
He would agree with your skepticism on the amount.