Joey Votto
- Thread starter CalCat57
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Yeah, they give those Gold Glove awards to just about anybody. Same with National League MVP. Those 2 awards are a dime a dozen. Everyone has one.
I agree that he is not a elite athlete in terms of speed and agility. But, bottom line he is paid to hit like every
other MLB 1st baseman. He is an elite professional hitter. More Todd Helton, than Chris Davis. He does walk a tremendous amount and is strangely criticized for it. Massive contract. He is not going anywhere, anytime soon.
Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
2007 23 CIN NL 24 89 84 11 27 7 0 4 17 1 0 5 15 .321 .360 .548 .907 127 46 0 0 0 0 1 3/7
2008 24 CIN NL 151 589 526 69 156 32 3 24 84 7 5 59 102 .297 .368 .506 .874 125 266 7 2 0 2 9 *3 RoY-2
2009 25 CIN NL 131 544 469 82 151 38 1 25 84 4 1 70 106 .322 .414 .567 .981 156 266 8 4 0 1 10 *3 MVP-22
2010 ★ 26 CIN NL 150 648 547 106 177 36 2 37 113 16 5 91 125 .324 .424 .600 1.024 171 328 11 7 0 3 8 *3 AS,MVP-1
2011 ★ 27 CIN NL 161 719 599 101 185 40 3 29 103 8 6 110 129 .309 .416 .531 .947 155 318 20 4 0 6 15 *3 AS,MVP-6,GG
2012 ★ 28 CIN NL 111 475 374 59 126 44 0 14 56 5 3 94 85 .337 .474 .567 1.041 177 212 8 5 0 2 18 *3 AS,MVP-14
2013 ★ 29 CIN NL 162 726 581 101 177 30 3 24 73 6 3 135 138 .305 .435 .491 .926 156 285 15 4 0 6 19 *3 AS,MVP-6
2014 30 CIN NL 62 272 220 32 56 16 0 6 23 1 1 47 49 .255 .390 .409 .799 125 90 5 3 0 2 2 3
2015 31 CIN NL 158 695 545 95 171 33 2 29 80 11 3 143 135 .314 .459 .541 1.000 175 295 11 5 0 2 15 *3 MVP-3
2016 32 CIN NL 86 363 294 48 74 15 0 14 42 6 1 61 88 .252 .386 .446 .831 122 131 8 5 0 3 7 *3/D
10 Yrs 1196 5120 4239 704 1300 291 14 206 675 65 28 815 972 .307 .421 .528 .948 154 2237 93 39 0 27 104
162 Game Avg. 162 694 574 95 176 39 2 28 91 9 4 110 132 .307 .421 .528 .948 154 303 13 5 0 4 14
other MLB 1st baseman. He is an elite professional hitter. More Todd Helton, than Chris Davis. He does walk a tremendous amount and is strangely criticized for it. Massive contract. He is not going anywhere, anytime soon.
Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
2007 23 CIN NL 24 89 84 11 27 7 0 4 17 1 0 5 15 .321 .360 .548 .907 127 46 0 0 0 0 1 3/7
2008 24 CIN NL 151 589 526 69 156 32 3 24 84 7 5 59 102 .297 .368 .506 .874 125 266 7 2 0 2 9 *3 RoY-2
2009 25 CIN NL 131 544 469 82 151 38 1 25 84 4 1 70 106 .322 .414 .567 .981 156 266 8 4 0 1 10 *3 MVP-22
2010 ★ 26 CIN NL 150 648 547 106 177 36 2 37 113 16 5 91 125 .324 .424 .600 1.024 171 328 11 7 0 3 8 *3 AS,MVP-1
2011 ★ 27 CIN NL 161 719 599 101 185 40 3 29 103 8 6 110 129 .309 .416 .531 .947 155 318 20 4 0 6 15 *3 AS,MVP-6,GG
2012 ★ 28 CIN NL 111 475 374 59 126 44 0 14 56 5 3 94 85 .337 .474 .567 1.041 177 212 8 5 0 2 18 *3 AS,MVP-14
2013 ★ 29 CIN NL 162 726 581 101 177 30 3 24 73 6 3 135 138 .305 .435 .491 .926 156 285 15 4 0 6 19 *3 AS,MVP-6
2014 30 CIN NL 62 272 220 32 56 16 0 6 23 1 1 47 49 .255 .390 .409 .799 125 90 5 3 0 2 2 3
2015 31 CIN NL 158 695 545 95 171 33 2 29 80 11 3 143 135 .314 .459 .541 1.000 175 295 11 5 0 2 15 *3 MVP-3
2016 32 CIN NL 86 363 294 48 74 15 0 14 42 6 1 61 88 .252 .386 .446 .831 122 131 8 5 0 3 7 *3/D
10 Yrs 1196 5120 4239 704 1300 291 14 206 675 65 28 815 972 .307 .421 .528 .948 154 2237 93 39 0 27 104
162 Game Avg. 162 694 574 95 176 39 2 28 91 9 4 110 132 .307 .421 .528 .948 154 303 13 5 0 4 14
At this point I think Votto has lost his luster. I don't think he's going to be a sure fire Hall of Famer that he was on track to be a few years back.
He is a boring star player to have, that's for sure. Has ABs like a 2 hitter, need him to be a 3/4 though.
Why Joey Votto is the most underappreciated great hitter of his era
Votto has been one of baseball's most productive hitters since the mound was lowered in 1969
This is not a player who is having some tremendously productive years at his peak. Votto has been one of the most productive hitters in Reds history -- among players with at least 1,500 plate appearances, he is first in franchise history in OPS (.957) and OPS+ (156), even better than everyone from the Big Red Machine days -- and one of the best hitters in all of baseball over the last half-century.
Votto is in the middle of another dominant second half, the kind of second half only a handful of players in the game can match. He's very much on a Hall of Fame trajectory and has laid down one heck of a foundation. Votto has the rate stats. Now he just needs to pile up some counting stats, and since he's only 33 and is signed through 2023, he has plenty of career remaining.
Despite all the critics who focus on his RBI totals and resent his willingness to take a walk, Votto is one of the most productive players of his generation and one of the best offensive players of our lifetimes. This is a historically great hitter who deserves more attention for putting together a career than has him on the path to becoming one of the best hitters baseball has ever seen.
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/joey-votto.199477/
Votto has been one of baseball's most productive hitters since the mound was lowered in 1969
- by Mike Axisa
- @mikeaxisa
- Aug 27, 2016
- Barry Bonds --173 wRC+
- Mike Trout -- 167
- Mark McGwire -- 157
- Joey Votto -- 156
- Frank Thomas -- 154
- Albert Pujols -- 153
- Manny Ramirez -- 153
- Miguel Cabrera -- 152
- Willie Stargell -- 152
- Dick Allen -- 150
This is not a player who is having some tremendously productive years at his peak. Votto has been one of the most productive hitters in Reds history -- among players with at least 1,500 plate appearances, he is first in franchise history in OPS (.957) and OPS+ (156), even better than everyone from the Big Red Machine days -- and one of the best hitters in all of baseball over the last half-century.
Votto is in the middle of another dominant second half, the kind of second half only a handful of players in the game can match. He's very much on a Hall of Fame trajectory and has laid down one heck of a foundation. Votto has the rate stats. Now he just needs to pile up some counting stats, and since he's only 33 and is signed through 2023, he has plenty of career remaining.
Despite all the critics who focus on his RBI totals and resent his willingness to take a walk, Votto is one of the most productive players of his generation and one of the best offensive players of our lifetimes. This is a historically great hitter who deserves more attention for putting together a career than has him on the path to becoming one of the best hitters baseball has ever seen.
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/joey-votto.199477/
