Is there such a thing as a 2-4-5 defense?

[Tskware]

I watched our game again on DVR and picked up that we are in effect playing a 2-4-5 defense.

Two big guys in the middle, e.g., Lewis and Johnson; four linebackers, generally, Ware, Flannigan, Forrest, and Hatcher; then five defensive backs.

I do not recall Kentucky playing that type of defense before. Our personnel seems to fit though. All of the linebackers are good size, at least 240 pounds or so, yet run well and can put heat on the passer when necessary. And we really don’t have a ton of true defensive ends, like we had last year.

Does anyone else play this defense? Or was this just a special formation, for a team like Missouri, with a very fast elusive quarterback?

 

[TBCat]

What's even more is how they were moving around. You'd see Hatcher line up at DE and during the presnap he'd back out of there. Sometimes it looked like he was lining up as a OLB other times Hatcher almost looked like he was playing nickel. You would see our safety line up in the slot and during presnap he would run back and get into single coverage. At times it looked like Forrest was the Mike backer other times Flanagan appeared to be playing Mike and Forrest was out side the tackle box.

This is apparently what DJ meant in the preseason when he described us as a positionless defense. We were clearly messing up Missouri's presnap reads. We will probably see more of this as the season goes on. I don't think that was put in special for Missouri. We just saw it for the first time because we now have Hatcher and Flanagan back.

 

[point1zerorock]

I did hear someone call it a 2-4-5. I think it was Jeremy Jarmon on Dick Gabriel's show. It seems to be working for us so far!

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

Yeah I think that's what was said. Easily DJ's best called defensive game since he's been here. Major props to the kid, he's filling out those DC shoes nicely!

 

[hmt5000]

Spread offense with mobile qb and no dominant running game

 

[WildCard]

No, I don't think so. I went back and watched a few defensive series to refresh my memory and I think they were really playing a 4-2-5 look. The main give away here is that it was a 6 man front and usually had 2 ILBs in the alignment, ergo, 4-2-5 "look".

They simply put the "DEs" in a 2 point stance. It's not about what position you are listed at on the roster, it's about where you actually line up on the field. They may be listed as LBs but they were lining up as the outside most position along the LOS. That makes the DEs in my book.

I suspect the thinking here was as hmt suggested, a game plan decision to give up a little "interior strength and outside rush" in favor of better outside pursuit. There was one play where OLB/DE Ware blew up a bubble screen before the primary defender got there. JMO.

Peace

 

[K_TIME]

Spread offense with mobile qb and no dominant running game

That is what I saw...Mizzou had no legit run threat..so UK went Johnson/Hunegin over the guards and Ware/Hatcher in 2pt stance on shoulder of tackles. Box in Mauk as best you can and make him throw accurately into a zone of 7 defenders.

Good job coach Elliot.

 

[Nuke99m]

Dunn at Miss St. ran 1 down lineman and blitzed from all different angles.

 

[UKwannabe]

Yes. It's a nickel formation variant.

 

[Perrin75]

what you are seeing the cats in is a 4-2 with an Amoeba Front. It is used to try to confuse the OL on their blocking assignments. Here is an article that will give you the basics.

 

[UKwannabe]

Dunn at Miss St. ran 1 down lineman and blitzed from all different angles.

Psycho 1-5-5

Ravens and Patriots have been known to use it alot. And Madden users everywhere

 

[BlueRattie]

Yes. It's a nickel formation variant.

^This. It's really not a base defense as much as a version of the nickle when you move your 5 technique DE's to the DT position, put your two OLB / DE Hybrids over the tackles, with two ILB's in the middle. The beautiful thing is that how much speed it gives you on defense and you can blitz for literally anywhere. You must have stout OLB / DE hybrids that can set the edge, even from a two point stance, for this D to be effective.

 

[1stKatMan]

A 2-4-5 would be a prevent formation against a Hail Mary play to thwart a big play during an-end game scenario. It's called, "KEEP THE BALL OUT OF THE ENDZONE!" As time runs off of the clock.

 

[jhammons]

If not, there is now.

 

[dcspurlock]

Different people are going to say different things. If you're going by the number of players at each level then it's gonna be called a 4-2-5. If your going by the positions the players at each level play then it's 2-4-5. Could also be a 3-3-5 too. I'm sure the team just has a name for the package and rolls with it. Whatever it is I like it though.