Is Ohio States 3rd string QB better than UK's 1st string
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They have better playmakers and offensive line surrounding him. Towles would look good, maybe not better, but good with that supporting cast.
Winner, winner... Hold off on judging the QB talent presently on our roster until we get a look at the next incarnation of our offensive line. I'm betting things get shaken up a lot before next year with all the red shirts being activated and coming off their first off season in the HP program. We will have some experience and talent returning, especially at Center, but also a lot of new athletes who might just displace some incumbents. I will refrain from discussing which incumbents seem most vulnerable based on last year's performances.
I also think a lot is going to be done in this off season to establish a running game that will more reliably take some pressure off our QB. An occasional play action pass would be refreshing.
Not true. Cardale Jones was like the 71st rated QB in the 2012 class. Patrick Towles was tied for 9th. Before playing in the Sugar Bowl, Jones had attempted 36 passes.
This is pretty much true. Only Braxton Miller was 5 star recruit (#2 rated QB per Phil Steele). JT Barrett was #11.
Patrick Towles was #22 rated QB by Steele, Cardale Jones was #31. Possibly in the same class as well.
But Jones is very very impressive, showing that HS ratings are an inexact science at best. I do think that Bama made a terrible mistake, that I bet Oregon does not repeat. They should have brought the house against the kid and made him move around. All night long they let him camp out in the pocket, with a 3 or 4 man rush, and watched him throw 30 yard laser beams. Really do not understand Smart's thinking on that one.
Of course, Bama did not stop the running game either, so maybe all of the 5 star recruits on Alabama's team were a bit overrated as well.
Cardele Jones looked like a better passing Tim Tebow to me. The dude definitely would not be third string on most of the college football teams that I have seen play this year. The dude has a cannon for an arm and the running power of a FB.. His nickname is slingshot. IMO if Jones isn't starting next year he will be transferring. He definitely made a believer of me.
I did think Jones did play well for limited action during the regular season. That said, I'm sticking with Towles. Towles just needs to improve his accuracy (which he will) and we need to get some better players to help him.
Is Jones better than Towles?? Who knows!!!! But one thing is abundantly clear--OSU's offensive line is far superior to UK's and most other OLs in the country. Since I can remember, and I'm 67, OSU has recruited and developed superior offensive linemen.
OSU's OL made Archie Griffin, a mediocre to average back as shown in his NFL career, a 2-time Heisman winner!!! Why shouldn't OSU's OL make Jones, or Towles for that matter, look like an All-American QB?
OSU's OL made Archie Griffin, a mediocre to average back as shown in his NFL career, a 2-time Heisman winner!!! Why shouldn't OSU's OL make Jones, or Towles for that matter, look like an All-American QB?
Which had better QB coaches? I haven't seen the staff of Ohio St to say who they have or don't have but I would say we just might as well not have one on the staff. That's the most important position on the team and don't have a top notch QB coach.
Kind of reminds me of Byron Leftwich...
Big ole boy, cannon for an arm, athletic, mobile enough to extend plays and drives when necessary...
I'm not sure why or how this guy is 3rd string...not any more though...may have played himself into a starting role...talks of the other two possibly looking to transfer...
Going to be a team that gets a heck of a player whether its JT or Braxton...
but yeah...he's better than a lot of school's first team QB...Alabama included...
If jones just improves moderately over the next season or two, he'll be a first rounder...possibly first QB taken...
Big ole boy, cannon for an arm, athletic, mobile enough to extend plays and drives when necessary...
I'm not sure why or how this guy is 3rd string...not any more though...may have played himself into a starting role...talks of the other two possibly looking to transfer...
Going to be a team that gets a heck of a player whether its JT or Braxton...
but yeah...he's better than a lot of school's first team QB...Alabama included...
If jones just improves moderately over the next season or two, he'll be a first rounder...possibly first QB taken...
Wow, must have hit a nerve to have you get your whole fraternity together.
Sorry I have to explain it, but the post was a dig at UL's curriculem, sorry you took it personally.
And while I couldn't afford to belong to a fraternity and never really wanted to, I did belong to Eta Kappa Nu and Tau Beta Pi, look them up some time.
This post was edited on 1/3 5:15 PM by jauk11
You're wrong..make sure you do your research first..he was rated as the 12th best pro-style QB in the nation by rivals..had offers from Ohio State, LSU, Penn State, Michigan, etc..those schools don't offer a quarterback a scholarship unless he's elite and one of the best in the nation
This post was edited on 1/3 5:32 PM by jnewc2
JT Barrett is the redshit freshman that beat out Jones for the starting position, once Miller went down. Barrett is a better runner than Jones and a very accurate passer, but not nearly as strong of an arm as Jones. Barrett is a very smart player and credited for the leadership he brought to the offense. He put up some record setting numbers in 2014, including:
- OSU Record 6 TD passes in a single game
- OSU Record 44 total TD in a season
- Big Ten Record 44 total TD in a season
- OSU Record for total offense in a season
If Jones had started, it would have been hard for him to statistically have had a better year than Barrett. Barrett is a guy that will likely put up huge numbers in his college career but may never translate into a great NFL prospect due to his lack of arm strength.
So, I guess it's a good problem for a coach to have, three legit college qb's to pick from. If Jones puts up decent numbers against Oregon then I wouldn't be surprised to see him strike while the irons hot and head to the NFL. He comes from a very rough upbringing and if he comes back for his junior year then he may find himself back on the bench with limited playing time for the next two years.
- OSU Record 6 TD passes in a single game
- OSU Record 44 total TD in a season
- Big Ten Record 44 total TD in a season
- OSU Record for total offense in a season
If Jones had started, it would have been hard for him to statistically have had a better year than Barrett. Barrett is a guy that will likely put up huge numbers in his college career but may never translate into a great NFL prospect due to his lack of arm strength.
So, I guess it's a good problem for a coach to have, three legit college qb's to pick from. If Jones puts up decent numbers against Oregon then I wouldn't be surprised to see him strike while the irons hot and head to the NFL. He comes from a very rough upbringing and if he comes back for his junior year then he may find himself back on the bench with limited playing time for the next two years.
You just never know until they get game action which QB's will be good in college. I remember Ohio State going all in on a kid named Justin Zwick a few years back. He was supposed to be the next Heisman candidate for OSU, they also signed a second QB that year who was almost an afterthought, his name was Troy Smith, who came from the same HIgh School (Glenville) as Cardale Jones. THey got their Heisman, of course it was Smith not Zwick. But like Jones, Smith had lots of help around him. Patrick will be fine, he just needs the O-line to give him a little more time and his supporting cast needs to catch passes when targeted.
Yes, Barrett is Meyer's guy and will be the OSU starter for the next 2 years. Cardale will not get any PT if Barrett is healthy.
