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Is Booker even old enough to leave early?

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He just turned 18 in October and won't turn 19 until 4 months after the draft. Does he have to be 19 by the draft or in the calender year?
 
19 during the calendar year of the draft and 1 year out of high school.
 
Players whose 19th birthday falls during or before the calendar year of the draft, are at least one year removed from the graduation of their high school class, and who do not meet the criteria for "international" players are automatically eligible if they meet any of the following criteria:[11]

They have completed 4 years of their college eligibility.If they graduated from high school in the U.S., but did not enroll in a U.S. college or university, four years have passed since their high school class graduated.They have signed a contract with a professional basketball team outside of the NBA, anywhere in the world, and have played under that contract. You also must be released from your contract before you can leave college to go to the NBA
 
The NBA Draft is open to all players who have turned 19 years and older by January 1 of the draft year.
He's 18 now, January 1st has passed, so no, he can't enter the draft. I haven't really thought of that actually.

That said, you're still going to see 100 threads with people saying that Booker is going to go to the draft, and many people may not even post in this one knowing that, because it would require them to be positive that they're getting great players like Booker back.
Almost makes me wonder how much people would complain if AD came back for another year.
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This post was edited on 1/24 4:03 PM by Rhavicc
 
You both just said different things. Looks to me he is eligible. He turns 19 in the draft year.
 
What I'm reading says that he has to be 19 by January 1 of the draft year. That would make him eligible for next year, not this year.
 
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
The NBA Draft is open to all players who have turned 19 years and older by January 1 of the draft year.
He's 18 now, January 1st has passed, so no, he can't enter the draft. I haven't really thought of that actually.

That said, you're still going to see 100 threads with people saying that Booker is going to go to the draft, and many people may not even post in this one knowing that, because it would require them to be positive that they're getting great players like Booker back.
Almost makes me wonder how much people would complain if AD came back for another year.
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This post was edited on 1/24 4:03 PM by Rhavicc
He turns 19 during the calendar year of the draft. he will be eligible.
 
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
What I'm reading says that he has to be 19 by January 1 of the draft year. That would make him eligible for next year, not this year.
post a link. I am not seeing that.
 
Do take note that the source that I'm citing is eHow. That said, eHow is a website based on information, and they're much more well informed than we are.

Linky
 
In which case, my mistake, I apologize.
A shame that we'll have to endure the 100 threads wondering if Booker will go to the NBA or not though, even though I really, really doubt he will. Just don't see him going against his father's wishes, plus leaving his best friend behind after 1 year. Especially when he knows he can develop much, much more.
 
Originally posted by ~Keyser Soze~:
He just turned 18 in October and won't turn 19 until 4 months after the draft. Does he have to be 19 by the draft or in the calender year?
Tell you what we will just keep him another year might be a NCAA violation and they would give us the death penalty!!
 
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
In which case, my mistake, I apologize.
A shame that we'll have to endure the 100 threads wondering if Booker will go to the NBA or not though, even though I really, really doubt he will. Just don't see him going against his father's wishes, plus leaving his best friend behind after 1 year. Especially when he knows he can develop much, much more.
No biggie. I would have expected EHow to have it right. I've used them too. My original post in the this thread was from Wiki. My daughter laughs at me for citing it for anything.

I am hoping that Booker stays. But, I can't blame him if he doesn't. And, yeah, you are right. We will endure a 100 threads wondering what he is going to do and citing sources.
 
Originally posted by jrm693:

Originally posted by ~Keyser Soze~:
He just turned 18 in October and won't turn 19 until 4 months after the draft. Does he have to be 19 by the draft or in the calender year?
Tell you what we will just keep him another year might be a NCAA violation and they would give us the death penalty!!
A sophomore backcourt of Ulis and Booker would be sick. KAT can come back too, as crazy as it sounds we have a chance to be even better next year. Not to overlook this season and our 19-0 start.
 
Legally, yes. From the standpoint of physical, social, and emotional maturity -- certainly not.
 
I think he plays 2 years ..this will give him a chance to help him twin maybe get on the board...why would he want to leave.dad should have some cash so enjoy yourself. .. He will be elvis next season
 
Originally posted by Ripcord65:
Legally, yes. From the standpoint of physical, social, and emotional maturity -- certainly not.
wow..

I won't debate his maturity.. but those things have nothing to do with whether or not he goes pro. It is, mostly, where he projects to be taken. The rest is clutter.
 
You people are cray..I just want to know if he's better than megatrez..1st team AA my ass..
 
Booker seems to be a very loyal, respectful and intelligent kid. I think those attributes will keep him here for a second year. First, I think he is smart enough to know that another year of physical and emotional growth would help him in the league. Second, he knows that his father wants him to stay for another year so doing so would be very respectful to his father. Lastly, his close bond with Ulis will give him an incentive to chase a second good opportunity to win a championship with his best friend. Individually he may ignore each factor and leave after this year, but as a whole, that is a lot of things to overcome. I really don't think he'll leave this year.
 
Originally posted by wromanp7:

Originally posted by Ripcord65:
Legally, yes. From the standpoint of physical, social, and emotional maturity -- certainly not.
wow..

I won't debate his maturity.. but those things have nothing to do with whether or not he goes pro. It is, mostly, where he projects to be taken. The rest is clutter.
Some of you people drive this clutter thing home. Don't be silly, these kids want to play in the NBA, not just get drafted by a cup of coffee. They want to go in, and be sure that they have all of the tools necessary to last in the league. Booker has a lot to catch up on, maybe not on this team, but this team is a team of kids. Those teams are teams full of men, who all play the game to get paid, know more than he does about it, went up against tougher competition, etc.
He needs more than shooting skills to last in the NBA. We've seen him drive the ball off the wing into the lane and score once this season, that was yesterday. That needs to be a more consistent piece of his game. It also wouldn't hurt to work on his ball handling, and defense can always be improved, and would make a world of difference for him in his career.
Physically, I think the boy is doing alright, that will improve with age, and eventually hinder him. Luckily though, shooting is a fantastic skill to have for the old men of the NBA.
Socially speaking, he's learning all about the spotlight, how he needs to interact with the media, fans, all that good stuff here at Kentucky.
All that said though, I don't think he's ready, his father probably doesn't think he's ready, and most importantly, he probably doesn't think that he's ready.
 
The way Booker is playing, I think he is shooting up draft boards. Could be lotto at season's end - in which case, I'd think he's gone. And I can't blame him. He's put in the work and, been a great, great player for us. Succeed and proceed.

But of course, I hope he stays.
 
Originally posted by Dennis Reynolds:
The way Booker is playing, I think he is shooting up draft boards. Could be lotto at season's end - in which case, I'd think he's gone. And I can't blame him. He's put in the work and, been a great, great player for us. Succeed and proceed.

But of course, I hope he stays.
DraftExpress just updated their mock.

Have Booker going 14.
 
Originally posted by Chuckinden:


Originally posted by no_neutrality:

Booker is not leaving
Everyone said the same thing about Bledsoe.
1. Bledsoe was a man-child
2. Bledsoe's family was in a financial hardship

While Booker may very well leave after this year, his circumstances are totally different from Bledsoe's. Another year would help him mature physically. He has a solid support system from his family. Who knows, next year he could improve his NBA stock and become a top five pick. The kid certainly has NBA range right now.
 
You guys are crazy....he is so gone. He will go top 10..his Dad made that statement before he has blasted up draft boards. No way he risks that. If we lose Devin & get Malik were good
 
Booker is a shooter for sure, he is very coachable and he will be an NBA player at some point. I think if he weren't on this team he would not be shining so brightly, that could probably be said about a lot of players though. It would be to his benefit to come back, I think the one thing that has really to come to light is the benefit of staying more years in college is to look at players like WCS.

It is too late for this year and next year also, but the NCAA and NBA need to recognize that kids staying more than one year in college is good for the players and the league and college basketball. I think Coach Cal has the right idea, for every year a player stays in college reduce the length of his rookie NBA contract by a year for at least two additional years. Many players could graduate after 3 years in college or be close to it.

The players are then assured of the opportunity to make the bigger salaries quicker. Just look what a bargain the New Orleans Pelicans have in Anthony Davis. He should and will be the highest paid player in the NBA very soon - but he should making 10 times more NOW. Don't get me wrong, I don't feel sorry for any of these kids from the standpoint of their future earnings - just envious like most would be. The one thing we need for these players to be more than athletes - is leaders and mentors to those who see and admire them.

Coach Cal really teaches and leads by example so much more than most other coaches. It's a shame most Cal haters hate on him because of him winning games and beating their teams - most don't realize what he has and is doing for others. I wouldn't know either if I wasn't such a Kentucky fan.

Go Big Blue!
 
If you're a lottery pick, especially towards the top, you'd better have a goooooood reason for coming back. Devin is apparently borderline lottery. If he gets adequate assurance that he'll be in the lotto, maybe a solid "we're absolutely taking you if you're available" with some teams in the 10-12 range, I think he should go. Depends on how the rest of his season goes and how his family feels about their fairly young kid being in the league.
 
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
In which case, my mistake, I apologize.
A shame that we'll have to endure the 100 threads wondering if Booker will go to the NBA or not though, even though I really, really doubt he will. Just don't see him going against his father's wishes, plus leaving his best friend behind after 1 year. Especially when he knows he can develop much, much more.
Nope i agree He and Ulis will play the same amount of time at UK together i could almost promise that. I think both stay 2 years . Now if Ulis wasn't here then i do think Booker would probably go pro .
 
Originally posted by rolaid:
You guys are crazy....he is so gone. He will go top 10..his Dad made that statement before he has blasted up draft boards. No way he risks that. If we lose Devin & get Malik were good
Maybe, but maybe he doesn't feel that he's ready to take on the next level. Maybe he wants to put himself in the best position to have an NBA career and not just a cup of coffee in the league. There's just as big of a risk of leaving too early, ask Marquis Teague.
 
Originally posted by ~Keyser Soze~:

Originally posted by rolaid:
You guys are crazy....he is so gone. He will go top 10..his Dad made that statement before he has blasted up draft boards. No way he risks that. If we lose Devin & get Malik were good
Maybe, but maybe he doesn't feel that he's ready to take on the next level. Maybe he wants to put himself in the best position to have an NBA career and not just a cup of coffee in the league. There's just as big of a risk of leaving too early, ask Marquis Teague.
Yeah, but Teague was borderline first round. Booker is apparently late lottery now, and could move up even higher. He has an elite talent - shooting - that keeps much lesser athletes than Booker in the NBA for years. And he is plenty big enough and athletic enough for the NBA.

I hate it as a UK fan, but I think he should probably go. Maybe he wants to play with Ulis another year, maybe he is enjoying college, etc - lots of reasons to come back. But I'd be pretty surprised at this point.
 
Originally posted by Dennis Reynolds:

Originally posted by ~Keyser Soze~:

Originally posted by rolaid:
You guys are crazy....he is so gone. He will go top 10..his Dad made that statement before he has blasted up draft boards. No way he risks that. If we lose Devin & get Malik were good
Maybe, but maybe he doesn't feel that he's ready to take on the next level. Maybe he wants to put himself in the best position to have an NBA career and not just a cup of coffee in the league. There's just as big of a risk of leaving too early, ask Marquis Teague.
Yeah, but Teague was borderline first round. Booker is apparently late lottery now, and could move up even higher. He has an elite talent - shooting - that keeps much lesser athletes than Booker in the NBA for years. And he is plenty big enough and athletic enough for the NBA.

I hate it as a UK fan, but I think he should probably go. Maybe he wants to play with Ulis another year, maybe he is enjoying college, etc - lots of reasons to come back. But I'd be pretty surprised at this point.
Teague was a 1st round pick and still was bounced out of the league after 2 years because he wasn't ready. Guys should go pro when they're ready to make the most of their NBA career. It's not like he's gonna risk not getting drafted.
 
Right now:

Towns - top 5
WCS - top 10
Booker - top 20
Lyles - top 25
Johnson - top 30
Aaron - top 50
Andrew - top 60


If these guys win it all, then we should, as a collective fan base, hold the door for them on draft night and tell them, "Thank you" without a second thought.


Bring in Newman, Swanigan, and Zimmerman and we're good to go. I've been saying the only two things that matter this spring are a national title and getting either Newman or Brown. Everything else is secondary from a recruiting or "who is coming back" standpoint.
 
Originally posted by CoachR35:
Originally posted by Chuckinden:


Originally posted by no_neutrality:

Booker is not leaving
Everyone said the same thing about Bledsoe.
1. Bledsoe was a man-child
2. Bledsoe's family was in a financial hardship

While Booker may very well leave after this year, his circumstances are totally different from Bledsoe's. Another year would help him mature physically. He has a solid support system from his family. Who knows, next year he could improve his NBA stock and become a top five pick. The kid certainly has NBA range right now.
Yet when they list all of Cal's great point guards, you never see the name Bledsoe... Even thought Bledsoe also took turns with Wall playing point guard at UK....
 
Booker to the NBA talk is only good for casual conversation... A lot will have to do with how far Cats go into the Tourney.
The deeper they go and how big a part he plays in that run could make it more than a casual talk... Maybe some guys are ready at 19 to make a living? Some aren't... I don't care how much $$$ they toss at you, you're only a teenager once and some guys just aren't ready to make the leap... But maybe he is?
 
how many times does it have to happen before people realize. No one thought Bledsoe or Orton because they regardless of their situations personally weren't ready for the NBA, no one thought Knight cause he was smart, wanted an education, and his parents were well off, no one thought Teague because he wasn't ready and his family were millionaires, no one thought Archie cause he said he wasn't leaving and he wasn't ready, people thought James Young wasn't ready, if a player will be drafted in the 1st round Cal tells them to go as he should. Getting your hopes up that Booker, Lyles, or Towns is coming back is just plain dumb. If somehow we get supremely lucky and one or more of them do, then be surprised and let out a hallelujah, but don't count or plan on it.
 
Originally posted by Chuckinden:


Originally posted by no_neutrality:

Booker is not leaving
Everyone said the same thing about Bledsoe.
Yep. about Bledsoe, and about Teague, and about Goodwin, etc.

Nobody should be surprised when Booker leaves this year. The kid's draft stock has been soaring the past few weeks. And the fact that he's so young only makes him more enticing to pro scouts, and younger prospects are considered to have more future potential/upside.
 
Originally posted by Rhavicc:

Originally posted by wromanp7:


Originally posted by Ripcord65:
Legally, yes. From the standpoint of physical, social, and emotional maturity -- certainly not.
wow..

I won't debate his maturity.. but those things have nothing to do with whether or not he goes pro. It is, mostly, where he projects to be taken. The rest is clutter.
Some of you people drive this clutter thing home. Don't be silly, these kids want to play in the NBA, not just get drafted by a cup of coffee. They want to go in, and be sure that they have all of the tools necessary to last in the league. Booker has a lot to catch up on, maybe not on this team, but this team is a team of kids. Those teams are teams full of men, who all play the game to get paid, know more than he does about it, went up against tougher competition, etc.
He needs more than shooting skills to last in the NBA. We've seen him drive the ball off the wing into the lane and score once this season, that was yesterday. That needs to be a more consistent piece of his game. It also wouldn't hurt to work on his ball handling, and defense can always be improved, and would make a world of difference for him in his career.
Physically, I think the boy is doing alright, that will improve with age, and eventually hinder him. Luckily though, shooting is a fantastic skill to have for the old men of the NBA.
Socially speaking, he's learning all about the spotlight, how he needs to interact with the media, fans, all that good stuff here at Kentucky.
All that said though, I don't think he's ready, his father probably doesn't think he's ready, and most importantly, he probably doesn't think that he's ready.
If anything, I think we've seen that some kids just want to get there and sort out the rest once they're in the league.
 
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