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fans, parents, students, players, etc etc that weren't involved in any cheating, but while reading an article by Katrina's lawyers saying this proves she was telling the truth (still wonder why she shouldn't go to jail for involving her under age daughters in this despicable episode, isn't prostitution illegal except in PARTS of Nevada) I was particularly struck by this quote from him:

"Today should mark the end of a long and ugly journey for the University," attorney Larry Wilder said in a statement. "In retrospect it seems all should accept the fact that Ms. Powell came forward with the information that she did and it was true ...The time has come for the University to hire a coach that can display the integrity, character and pride that is indicative of the people of the City, the graduates of the University and the players."

It just struck me that, for quite a while, Transfer U did hire the personnel that reflected their "win at all costs" philosophy-------and it all started with the head cheese, jurich.

It wasn't just Slick Rick, that should have been fired before when he used his money to send his old flame to prison, after the sordid tabletop romance witnessed by his friends, AFTER paying for her abortion, foisting her off on an assistant coach, probably promising her the moon, and then sending her to prison with his money no problem with the best lawyers (the main factor in justice today, loved Hilary saying her 32 year old client that she defended, that raped a 12 year old child AND pretty much ruined her life, not able to have children and the trauma, forever destroyed her faith in lie detectors------because he passed the test------but she did a hell of a job for him), and now involved in another basketball recruiting scandal. Foolish woman, she could have just had the child that was done away with and received a fortune for at least 18 years, probably 21, while living a life of luxury, how much child support could he afford, starting with the $55,000,000 contract he received from Boston shortly after telling UK fans he wasn't going anywhere. But then, you do have to admire the nerve of the man, suing his old flame (University) for the ridiculous buyout he and jurich negotiated, probably behind closed doors, $45,000,000, no one in the world should be entitled to that much for BEING FIRED, and yes, while I love the job Stoops is doing digging us out of the hole a decade of criminal neglect put us in someone with good principles should turn that money down if he doesn't do the job. But then it is a different world today, fat chance, probably won't end up with over about thirty or forty million from UK the way it is, unless he does leave or does take us to SEC east titles, at the least. Maybe another fat chance. Or takes a better job, plenty out there, and coaches do seem to be hired guns that leave at the mention of a few million more------or in A&M's case, tens of millions more.

Then there is BP, that should have gone to jail in Arkansas for misuse of public funds (and probably the same at Transfer U, what with hiring his son with NO experience and TWO son in laws, but I guess he knew the AD couldn't turn him down after jurich threw almost a million dollar job to his own son) but instead had jurich welcome him back, with a very questionable $24,500,000 contract when no one was bidding for his services. With an even more questionable $500,000 bonus ($50,000 the normal bonus for a minimum APR) for what almost had to be a bogus (and truly unbelievable, without cutting a lot of corners) APR put together by a bunch of "transfers" and JC qualifiers that couldn't qualify out of high school.

But the worst hire from a moral standpoint (except for maybe jurich himself) was hiring hurtt, when it is well documented how he won the NROTY at the U, with the jailbird in prison that conned investors out of $930,000,000 financing the yacht trips, renting the whole floor of a hotel and staffing it with paid prostitutes, and paying for an abortion for one of them (without telling the proud father he lost a child), etc etc, not much doubt in my mind that jurich AND Strong, recruiting the same players in the same state, knew exactly who they were hiring. Proven to some extent by Strong turning down a job he was MUCH more suited for at Thug U (they cheat too) when even they couldn't stomach hurtt, (or maybe the SEC wouldn't allow it, did Jones have any need for hurtt in Knoxville?). And jurich proven by refusing to let hurtt go when the incompetent NCAA (that didn't investigate hurtt bringing in over half a class from Florida, with all FIVE of the four stars from Miami, because they screwed up the U investigation so badly they had to let BOTH U's off the hook) expected him to with their verdidt. Jurich had no problem with money, with his $5,000,000 income (officially) AND all of Transfer U's money to spend-----and he did a good job of that also, the $45,000,000 unbelievable. And I will bet he never had to use a check (and was too smart) for a $5,000 "loan" to keep hurtt's power on (LOL), he had plenty of $100 bills for handshakes.

The irony of this is that the NCAA is probably doing some of this punishment to basketball because they are so incompetent they couldn't punish them in football. Curci claimed they did that to UK football in order to protect the sacred cow.

Any way, I actually do feel sorry for SOME Transfer U fans-------not a lot of them that post on sports forums though. I have always felt sorry for the poor stiff's that didn't follow sports, that just wanted the education they paid a little more for because of athletics.

I don't know much about their other coaches, but since jurich hired them all------ Well, maybe there are a few worthy of guiding young impressionable athletes, but you have to wonder. This quote from his article: "The time has come for the University to hire a coach that can display the integrity, character and pride" is way past due-------at least jurich has been fired, although he probably won't leave with out even more millions, so maybe they will have chance to do that now. JMO, but I think they have failed miserably in the money sports, so far.

But then if they do hire that coach he may not last much longer than Krag did.

Slow times on here, lol.
 
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Don't feel the slightest bit sorry for school, fans...any of them.

They knew and choose to either turn a blind eye to it, or justify all of it...

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Most of which have been posted here many times before. [winking]

Peace

I would hope (and actually believe) that you are one of the innocent fans, although silence can be damning also, I have actually considered buying a Papa John's pizza since he split with jurich-----I haven't done it, just thought about it.

Sorry the post was so long, but it is amazing how long the story is, it would be easy to write a book about it, and yes, I might have come close.

Too much money in this business they still call sports, and the new headlines today illustrate it even more. Tarkanian got run off by UNLV's President because some of his players used a hot tub with one of these "agents", they all need to be banned. Right now the good news is that Bam wasn't too successful in leading UK to a title, lol.

Some of this is nitpicking though, how are they going to prove whether or not a player did or didn't give an agent the money for his meal whether he took the check up or not, what young recruit would think that was a huge deal?

And JMO but Transfer U's cheating is probably MORE about football than it is basketball, as bad as that obviously is so yeah, I think it is pertinent. I seldom go to the bb board, although I follow basketball closely too, Cal doesn't need any help, UK has always given basketball everything it needs. The same kind of scandal is probably lurking at Transfer U in football, as well as football recruiting in general everywhere.

And Cal's team is coming on, I am not that worried about Cal being involved with a recruiting scandal, he doesn't need to be with his coaching ability and UK's many advantages-----in basketball. But MONEY has to be very tempting to these young players, many poor AND with families that need help, which is one reason I think UK should give what others are giving in the COA race, legal and above board.
 
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Don't have time to read that much chose to read Les Misrebles instead.

Michener wrote several really great historical novels, usually started them in the cave men days and worked up to modern times. They were usually over a thousand pages long though so I guess you wouldn't be interested, comic books are usually pretty short.
 
Jauk, i think u are mixing Petrino's many character flaws from his past, to somehow mean he is breaking NCAA rules. There hasn't been any hints of recruiting problems. Clint Hurtt was Strongs' guy. So even if the guy wants to load his staff with family, he can do that if the AD signs off. I personally dont like it. More yes men wont help him. You can say with certainty about the basketball side of UofL. We will pay the price forever for that. But your blue tint must not see that moderate success plus a heisman trophy might make recruiting a lil easier???
 
Jauk, i think u are mixing Petrino's many character flaws from his past, to somehow mean he is breaking NCAA rules. There hasn't been any hints of recruiting problems. Clint Hurtt was Strongs' guy. So even if the guy wants to load his staff with family, he can do that if the AD signs off. I personally dont like it. More yes men wont help him. You can say with certainty about the basketball side of UofL. We will pay the price forever for that. But your blue tint must not see that moderate success plus a heisman trophy might make recruiting a lil easier???

I think what makes recruiting easier for Transfer U is signing good players like Hearns that didn't qualify at UK, kicking players off the commit list at the last minute to make room for a MVP criminal, taking a bunch of JCs that couldn't qualify out of high school and promising they will come close to leading the nation in the APR ratings (which they did, earning BP a 10 times bonus), trying to take in (actually took Willie in I think, but didn't last long despite jurich's stamp of approval) #1 overall recruits that turn out serving life sentences as habitual criminals, covering up overdose deaths in players rooms, and STRANGEST of all have two players AND a "cheerleader" shot in front of a big crowd and NO ONE saw anything------not even a peep from anyone about it over a year later. Wouldn't you think the National Enquirer could find even ONE witness that needs some drug money that would sell that story, hell we might even get up a pretty good rewqard for that story on here. Maybe someone can post a reward poster on their forum (I don't post ever there, and my name would send earthquake size tremors through the site if I only said hi), probably a new millisecond record for banning. I'm sure whatshisname would be OK with that, almost everyone knows we have too many criminals on the street-------unless they are your drug dealer, of course.

But what really puts Transfer U's recruiting over the top are the transfers they get their name from, THREE eligible this year from P5 programs in this class that I know of plus five or six (again) JC transfers I believe.

Well, you did ask, aren't you glad you did?

By the way, how long do you think BP will be there without jurich to give out $24,500,000 contracts when NO ONE else was bidding, giving the OK for hiring THREE family members, one with ZERO experience, (jurich probably had to OK it since he threw about a million dollar job to his own son) and a $500,000 bonuses for a bogus APR when the normal bonus is $50,000, and how much of that APR was he even there for? Of course the $45,000,000 buyout for Slick Rick was probably the most unbelievable of all, you pay someone that kind of money that is getting fired for not doing their job?

jurich was the Godfather for that whole gang, at least he is gone.
 
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Petrino's and UL's success getting transfers to have a shot at playing time verses other blue blood programs is why they come here. And alot of national recognition. I fully admit, w/o transfers, i dont in know if the rotating crop of coaches weve had over the last 20 years would have had as much success. You know as much as i, the state doesnt have many P5 high school recruits. We gotta do what w]]iq'me gotta. You guys are talking up the Qb2
 
fans, parents, students, players, etc etc that weren't involved in any cheating, but while reading an article by Katrina's lawyers saying this proves she was telling the truth (still wonder why she shouldn't go to jail for involving her under age daughters in this despicable episode, isn't prostitution illegal except in PARTS of Nevada) I was particularly struck by this quote from him:

"Today should mark the end of a long and ugly journey for the University," attorney Larry Wilder said in a statement. "In retrospect it seems all should accept the fact that Ms. Powell came forward with the information that she did and it was true ...The time has come for the University to hire a coach that can display the integrity, character and pride that is indicative of the people of the City, the graduates of the University and the players."

It just struck me that, for quite a while, Transfer U did hire the personnel that reflected their "win at all costs" philosophy-------and it all started with the head cheese, jurich.

It wasn't just Slick Rick, that should have been fired before when he used his money to send his old flame to prison, after the sordid tabletop romance witnessed by his friends, AFTER paying for her abortion, foisting her off on an assistant coach, probably promising her the moon, and then sending her to prison with his money no problem with the best lawyers (the main factor in justice today, loved Hilary saying her 32 year old client that she defended, that raped a 12 year old child AND pretty much ruined her life, not able to have children and the trauma, forever destroyed her faith in lie detectors------because he passed the test------but she did a hell of a job for him), and now involved in another basketball recruiting scandal. Foolish woman, she could have just had the child that was done away with and received a fortune for at least 18 years, probably 21, while living a life of luxury, how much child support could he afford, starting with the $55,000,000 contract he received from Boston shortly after telling UK fans he wasn't going anywhere. But then, you do have to admire the nerve of the man, suing his old flame (University) for the ridiculous buyout he and jurich negotiated, probably behind closed doors, $45,000,000, no one in the world should be entitled to that much for BEING FIRED, and yes, while I love the job Stoops is doing digging us out of the hole a decade of criminal neglect put us in someone with good principles should turn that money down if he doesn't do the job. But then it is a different world today, fat chance, probably won't end up with over about thirty or forty million from UK the way it is, unless he does leave or does take us to SEC east titles, at the least. Maybe another fat chance. Or takes a better job, plenty out there, and coaches do seem to be hired guns that leave at the mention of a few million more------or in A&M's case, tens of millions more.

Then there is BP, that should have gone to jail in Arkansas for misuse of public funds (and probably the same at Transfer U, what with hiring his son with NO experience and TWO son in laws, but I guess he knew the AD couldn't turn him down after jurich threw almost a million dollar job to his own son) but instead had jurich welcome him back, with a very questionable $24,500,000 contract when no one was bidding for his services. With an even more questionable $500,000 bonus ($50,000 the normal bonus for a minimum APR) for what almost had to be a bogus (and truly unbelievable, without cutting a lot of corners) APR put together by a bunch of "transfers" and JC qualifiers that couldn't qualify out of high school.

But the worst hire from a moral standpoint (except for maybe jurich himself) was hiring hurtt, when it is well documented how he won the NROTY at the U, with the jailbird in prison that conned investors out of $930,000,000 financing the yacht trips, renting the whole floor of a hotel and staffing it with paid prostitutes, and paying for an abortion for one of them (without telling the proud father he lost a child), etc etc, not much doubt in my mind that jurich AND Strong, recruiting the same players in the same state, knew exactly who they were hiring. Proven to some extent by Strong turning down a job he was MUCH more suited for at Thug U (they cheat too) when even they couldn't stomach hurtt, (or maybe the SEC wouldn't allow it, did Jones have any need for hurtt in Knoxville?). And jurich proven by refusing to let hurtt go when the incompetent NCAA (that didn't investigate hurtt bringing in over half a class from Florida, with all FIVE of the four stars from Miami, because they screwed up the U investigation so badly they had to let BOTH U's off the hook) expected him to with their verdidt. Jurich had no problem with money, with his $5,000,000 income (officially) AND all of Transfer U's money to spend-----and he did a good job of that also, the $45,000,000 unbelievable. And I will bet he never had to use a check (and was too smart) for a $5,000 "loan" to keep hurtt's power on (LOL), he had plenty of $100 bills for handshakes.

The irony of this is that the NCAA is probably doing some of this punishment to basketball because they are so incompetent they couldn't punish them in football. Curci claimed they did that to UK football in order to protect the sacred cow.

Any way, I actually do feel sorry for SOME Transfer U fans-------not a lot of them that post on sports forums though. I have always felt sorry for the poor stiff's that didn't follow sports, that just wanted the education they paid a little more for because of athletics.

I don't know much about their other coaches, but since jurich hired them all------ Well, maybe there are a few worthy of guiding young impressionable athletes, but you have to wonder. This quote from his article: "The time has come for the University to hire a coach that can display the integrity, character and pride" is way past due-------at least jurich has been fired, although he probably won't leave with out even more millions, so maybe they will have chance to do that now. JMO, but I think they have failed miserably in the money sports, so far.

But then if they do hire that coach he may not last much longer than Krag did.

Slow times on here, lol.


Good post but I'd hate to be on the bottom of a pile when you came sprinting up.
 
(the main factor in justice today, loved Hilary saying her 32 year old client that she defended, that raped a 12 year old child AND pretty much ruined her life,

Jauk, I spotted this in the tome. The lawyer(s) who put away the lady Pitino humped in a restaurant were public prosecutors and not privately hired counsel.
 
Jauk, I spotted this in the tome. The lawyer(s) who put away the lady Pitino humped in a restaurant were public prosecutors and not privately hired counsel.

Oh well, just another example of how far jurich's influence extended, lol.

Do you agree that she would have probably been living on easy street instead of in prison (is she out yet, sounds pretty dangerous to me. A lot more dangerous than the serial ARMED robber former hero that the DA tried to get off with pretty much a slap on the wrist, the first rampage, the second one even more dangerous.) IF she hadn't listened to his lies and just had the baby instead of the abortion he arranged and paid for? I would hate to meet her in a dark alley.

Unless there was a tabletop nearby, of course.

You just can't make up all the "coincidences" that happen at Transfer U, still wondering when one of the many witnesses that saw the little green men shoot the two football players AND the "cheerleader" needs some drug money and sells the story to the National Enquirer.

But alas, jurich is gone, I am sure going to miss the entertainment.
 
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A few things to do? Like what, you never leave your computer board. Guess you could clean it,I know it needs it.

Stay away from my keyboard, it works fine, why worry? A lot of my posts are either early (my time) or very late, and yes, I comment on almost everything, even try a little levity from time to time.

But you are getting a stamp of approval several times from a Bama troll.
 
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“Transfer U” is a lame nickname for U6.



;) just sayin


But it is a LARGE part of the reason they came from nowhere to the ACC, AND a big reason they are still competitive. And not as bad since they joined the ACC, but a LOT of those players were kicked out of other schools.

As I pointed out, three transfers from P5 schools this year, plus 5 or 6 JC transfers-------that will no doubt register one of the highest APRs in the nation.

Well, maybe not, jurich is gone now-------I used to root for them, it would be nice to have another program in state that you didn't have to despise.
 
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